the national labor relations board. of course they're afraid. acturing contract, and. >> i think the confident report has a lot-- >> no, i think that they're being brain washed. >> neil: i'm going to put you both down as a no on the president. and dagen, are those worries justified? >> absolutely. >> all right, i'm going to make it three. >> charles mentioned the economic numbers and durable goods orders, however you look at it were awful and down 13% the last month. the second quarter was abysmal and a number-- housing still looks shaky, you name it, the ceo's worry about it. the health care costs, the health care law, and looming tax increases and congress actually-- >> and maybe you're seeing just that, and dan, to that point, do you see this double dip? do you see, as many ceo's seem to be saying at the very least, not a big reason to hire, not a big reason to expand. retrenchment, which generally smells recession? >> i don't know that we're going to have a double dip, but except in housing, could be extremely vigorous, but may be in a situat

generations of americans is asian was really legalized and thirty five with the way in the national labor relations board is that when scab workers come in stuff doesn't get done right yeah and i think that that's really what is so interesting about this moment is that you have the american public you know you can have people like scott walker who are saying bring back the real refs after last night's packers game and but what's really what this is really about is that we're not respecting people's work and recognizing the value that unions bring to creating solid valuable important competitive work and so you have these referees these replacement refs who are clearly making horrible calls not being effective at all and it's a very good and high profile but certainly not the only example at all of you know this just complete greed by corporations and by these folks who can get away with that and locking out people who have trained long and hard to do the work as effectively as they can work that actually affects people's lives i mean their their design their training to catch things like traumatic brain

the chairman of the national labor relations board under bill clinton said that the unions are perfectly in order for them to negotiate member-only contracts. it's the law. they ought to do that and not cry crocodile tears about representation of people who did not vote for them, did not ask for them, did not want them. the on the ways and they do it is to have an argument that forces them to pay fees. host: tweeting int -- according to the labor department, workplace death is 51% higher in a right to work state. guest: does he have a citation for that? host: that is a statistic from the bureau of labor statistics that we found. guest: 51% higher? what is the basis for that? host: just reporting to you what we found. guest: if we force everyone to join a union, we will stop workplace death? host: is that your answer? guest: i guess. host: last caller from longview, texas. caller: thank you overtaking my call. i was a union member since 1974. i worked for 37 years. they did make accommodations there was no discussion of any type. this was with the postal service. there were taking out all

remember the president appoints a majority of the national labor relations board which governs all of the labor law he could literally rewrite the regulations. he could have his folks at nlrb rewrite things. he's been somewhat constrained in that by precedent. in the second term i don't see the precedent having any constraints. when he makes promises to labor, one thing we know from history, a president who makes promises to organization like the teamsters is obligated to deliver. shannon: some people are upset with them that he didn't get everything done they expected to get done. they were not happy that they theld the convention in north carolina, the least unionized state in the country. there wasn't even a single hotel for them to stay at. we know there was a little bit of bad blood. the donations from organized labor was not high, they were putting their money elsewhere. the dnc platform included things that are an outrage to big labor. there are battleground states highly unionized. pennsylvania, ohio. how much do you think the president is thinking about those particular state

with the passage of the right track, where they established authorization for forced unionism, bringing it back to washington and creating a five-member national labor relations board that adjudicates the law. the bias in federal law is in favor of compulsion. we have got a major step for an individual freedom. host: joseph tweets in -- guest: i think that as possible. you cannot be sure, because many use power to artificially inflate wages. in the construction industry, artificially create floors for wages, and you can argue that the floors are good. i'm not sure and that is the case. a bad union it does not deserve compulsion and does not deserve the privilege of forcing workers to pay them for getting a job. host: della, you are on "washington journal." caller: if we ought to have a right to work in the united states, we ought to touch this with universal rights to join a union. not to be sending to agreements with countries like the recent agreements we signed with colombia, south korea, and panama, where unions are restricted and collective bargaining is prohibited. a worker in the united states should not be faced with the challenge of losing his job because

and won't enforce and installed unconstitutional, nonrecess recess appointments to the national labor relations board. despite these heavy-handed attempts to advance his agenda, 23 million workers are still searching for a full-time job and 46 million americans are still living in poverty. too many of our fellow citizens are unemployed and trapped in poverty not because of failed welfare policies but because of president obama's failed leadership. if the president has ideas for enhancing flexibility on welfare policy he must submit those to congress and work with us to change the law. he has not done that. instead he's chosen to adopt a controversial waiver scheme that rewrites law through executive fiat. the good news is we have an opportunity today to tell the president stop, stop rewriting federal law behind closed doors, stop promoting schemes that encourage government dependency, stop advancing failed policies and start working with congress on positive solutions to grow our economy and create jobs. the american people desperately need and expect as much from elected leaders. i urge my colleague