it augments the capabilities of the rest of what nih is about. it is not detracting from the base, it is adding a layer of translation, of political application that can now go faster. the way the president's budget rolls out, it proposes $2.5 billion increase for all of the rest of nih, which is a pretty reasonable number as well. when you put that together, i think, for cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and everything else, including als, we are going to have an opportunity through all of these packets to do more and the proposal of an increment of $9 billion will open up all kind of opportunity. rep. clark: thank you. the doctor -- dr. sharpless, we have her grant funding is going down. >> uh oh. ethic i lost representative clark. -- i think i lost representative clark. >> let's see if we can get representative clark back. can you tell me anything? maybe what we will do is go to -- we will come back to congresswoman clark. congressman kline. rep. kline: thank you, madam chair. i want to thank our witnesses for being here and developing the vacci

fauci: well, congressman lawrence, it goes well beyond the nih. not the pass the buck to others, but i think it is important, what you point out, at the covid-19 pandemic has shown s --h -- shone a bright light on these just -- disparities that have to do with decade-long social determinants that have to deal with help. from diets that are not available to people, to not getting your hypertension diagnosed when you are young and to prevent when you already have hypertension and real disease and heart disease, there are things that we can do at the nh, that i hope that the rest of the world and country specifically realizes that this is a decades long commitment to remove those social determinants that are really part as dr. collins said in his opening remarks part of the racism that existed in this country for a long period of time. reppo lawrence -- rep. lawrence: we need all hands on deck for this, thank you for everything we have done. i yelled back. rep. delauro: i will wrap up, but i just want to say to my friends, the ranking member congressm

this research has been funded by the nih. the collaboration between the u.s. and the wuhan virology institute continues. they worked together to induce bat virus protein into the backbone of the deadly sars virus and then used this man-made super virus to infect human airway cells. think about that. the sars virus had a 15% mortality, and we are fighting a pandemic that has about a 1% mortality. can you imagine if a sars virus that has been juiced up and had viral proteins added to it, if that were released accidentally? dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? dr. fauci: senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in that institute.

fauci: well, congressman lawrence, it goes well beyond the nih. not the pass the buck to others, but i think it is important, what you point out, at the covid-19 pandemic has shone a bright light on these disparities that have to do with decade-long social determinants that have to deal with help. from diets that are not available to people, to not getting your hypertension diagnosed when you are young and to prevent when you already have hypertension and real disease and heart disease, there are things that we can do at the nh, that i hope that the rest of the world and country specifically realizes that this is a decades long commitment to remove those social determinants that are really part as dr. collins said in his opening remarks part of the racism that existed in this country for a long period of time. rep. lawrence: we need all hands on deck for this, thank you for everything we have done. i yelled back. rep. delauro: i will wrap up, but i just want to say to my friends, the ranking member congressman cole. i think about how blessed we are

do still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? dr. fauci: with all due respect, you are entirely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in that institute.

flip-flop and take every side unmasks and more were gonna break it down, more evidence surfacing that the nihs research overseas were digging into the government documents this is by doctor fauci heated denials, all this after dr. fauci backed funding for creating dangerous super viruses and laboratories in order to make vaccines. we've got the documents, woke corporate america called out in an ad campaign against the conservative group accusing big-name companies of exploiting politics and potentially force slave labor in china in new government data showing tens of thousands of illegal border crossings that come into the u.s., we have the new numbers tonight, i am elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: were watching the fox business network must begin with missouri congressman jason smith it's good to have you back on, good to see you. no breakthrough yet on infrastructure, what was your reaction when you saw the biden administration removing sanctions on russia's pipeline into germany, and didn't want to damage diplomatic relationships of germany but killed

plus there is more evidence surfacing that the nih-backed u.s. nding of super virus research overseas. we're digging into the government documents. this despite dr. fauci's heated denials. all this after dr. fauci also being bad funding for quote, creating dangerous super viruses in laboratories to create vaccines. we have the documents. woke corporate america called out in a new ad campaign by a conservative group accusing big-name companies of exploiting politics and potentially forced slave labor in china. and new government data showing tens of thousands of illegal border-crossers have come into the u.s. we've got the new numbers for you tonight. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's begin tonight with missouri congressman jason smith. it is good to have you back on, sir, good to see you. no breakthrough yet on infrastructure what was your reaction when you saw the biden administration removing sanctions on russia's nord stream two

fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan?> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> brian: all right, with all due respect dr. anthony fauci that's a highly misleading statement. he is right when he says the nih never directly funded the institute of virology, follow me here. it funded a nonprofit group called echo health alliance which then funneled the money into the gain of function research in wuhan. strangely enough, the president of that nonprofit was a part of the w.h.o.'s investigation into the origins of the virus. his conclusion, china said they didn't do it and they are trust one way or the other, right? >> we met with them and said do you audit the lab? they said annually. did you audit it after the outbreak? no. do you test your staff? yes. >> you are just taking their word for it. >> well, what else can we do? >> brian: peter daszak. make a very public stink about it. china is

we needed the help and american people and enrolling in critical -- clinical trials. nih open dialogues with communities disproportionally affected by covid. the community engagement alliance built on some existing long-term partnerships with trusted leaders in underserved communities to engage directly on child enrollment in later and issues on vaccine safety and efficacy. we were able to use the enrollment techniques we learned in the largest longitudinal studies that you champion. the result, all of the americans can look at the major vaccine trials and see the people like them were included. the world was clamoring for rapid diagnostics to manage and understand our risk. members of this committee asked what nih could do to ramp-up innovation. thanks to your support and using a novel shark tank approach, nih took on a new role in the rapid deceleration of diagnostics program. today, there are 33 novel testing. this program demonstrated the remarkable innovations are possible when nih brings together experts, engineering and business to find big ideas. now the president

fauci and the nih director francis collins pushing back hard at a hearing before congress today sayingdamantly the u.s. did not fund super virus research at china's wuhan lab, but it's what they did not say, what they cannot account for, that's what matters joining us tonight ron johnson, kt mcfarland, wells fargo economist, larry trump, texas congressman and national border patrol council president brandon judd, we have a lot b of headlis here tonight, dr. fauci in the nih director avoiding what they already admitted, they contract, they can't account for how china spends its money and what it'sot doing with super viruses, also dr. fauci did not testify on how he has supported the creation of a laboratory virus that does not exist in nature in order to get vaccines, we are following the money trail why are democrats blocking republican demand to hold hearings on all of this we have growing on circumstantial evidence 19 diddly from the wuhan lab in china, why are they blocking they do not want to admit the former president trump might be right? also tonight there media dramatc flip-flo

but he is also wrong today to say that the nih did not fund this kind of research. nicholas wade. tony fauci and the -- and his agency need answers to the american people about what role they may have played funding research is laboratories. perhaps it was not directly into what ultimately resulted in this worldwide pandemic. but why in the first place what american tax dollars be going to a chinese communist lab that was conducting some of the world's most dangerous kind of research in a laboratory that we know and that we knew three, four years ago had slow, sloppy safety practices. fauci does not seem to note much about constitutional self-government. he was disrespectful to the united states senate today and he appears to have disregarded the direction of the obama white house as well. >> laura: senator, great to see you. and dr. fauci is not the only top health officials to discredit himself. the cdc director, rachel polansky revealed to be completely clueless on basic covid science. we learn to see deceit was overstating the risk of outdoor transmission by you

fauci told the date nih that they had not a function of research. be part of that function so it he may be working to these alliances of arcing to a different definition therefore it's a matter of definition, not of the t loophole. mark: so this is fascinating, so dr. fauci is been on more shows that i can throw a brick at talking about the lack of curiosity by the media. all you have to do is read your article. hudson appoints to dr. fauci but it points to the moratorium in the loophole in the new point out that predict ahead of these agencies, either the head of nih from the overarching umbrella or the head of dr. fauci's agency to permit the grant to go towards this kind of a function activity. i would like to consider myself relatively intelligent printed we need to get an answer to this. who was that, was it dr. fauci, was it collins. in a moratorium that is sent to moratorium is obviously a semantical issue seems to be that is something we need to know as well. this is a grave matter, perhaps discretion never have been given in the first place

the nih grants are not like a contract. you send money. he end of the year you write a report what i did on summer vacation. it is sort of that lax. that works very well in the united states. i want to keep that to support our researchers. when you're talking about overseas, places like china, you need to be much more rigorous. we need to get to the bottom of this. elizabeth: okay. dr. giroir, thank you so much for joining us. come back soon. still ahead, jason chaffetz will help us break down this story, did president biden throw environment alists under the bus green-lighting russia's nord stream 2 pipeline after environmentalists worldwide condemned that pipeline for violating international conventions. kill the keystone pipeline over pollution but okay russia's polluting nord stream 2 pipeline? that is okay? the story next. ♪. you can close with more certainty. and twice as fast. if i could, i'd ten-x everything. like a coffee run... or fedora shopping. talk to your broker. ten-x does the same thing, - but with buildings. - so no more w

fauci and the nih director, dr. francis collins pushing back hard at a hearing before congress adamantly saying that the u.s. did not fund supervirus research at china's wuhan lab but it is what they didn't say, what they can't account for, that's what matters. joining us tonight senator ron johnson, kt mcfarland, wells fargo economist mark vitner, lara trump and pat fallon and national border patrol council president brandon judd. we have a lot of headlines and news for you tonight. dr. fauci, the nih director avoiding what they already admitted they can't track, they can't account for how china spends its money and what it is doing with superviruses. dr. fauci did not testify how he has supported quote, the creation of a laboratory virus that does not exist in nature in order to get vaccines. we are following the money trail here. plus why aren't democrats blocking republicans demands to hold hearings on all of this? we have growing circumstantial evidence that yeah, covid-19 leaked from the wuhan lab in china. why

collins head of the nih or archie head of the nia id.ing agency could invoke loophole to continue funding the research funding any research and the reasons for exempting could be national security or -- or extreme fair to public health. now we don't actually know if dr. collins ordered and did invoke this loophole this seem at first to research to have continued. but now it seem it is might have been a question of definition of high and define gain of poppings because dr. fauci told senate recently they have not gain function of research even though the description of what dr. shi was doing is to begin a function so it seems he may be working certainly ecohealth alliance is working on a different definition and therefore, it is a matter of definition not of loophole. mark: this is fascinating. now dr. fauci is more than throw a brick at talking about lack of curiosity by media all they have to do is read your article. not that it points at fauci but it points to fact there's a moratorium and loophole and then you point out that it would

to the wuhan lab. >> doctor fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. maria: entirely incorrect. actually, now fauci is walking that back in here is the senator's reaction. >> i think it's pretty extraordinary. doctor fauci for at least a year has been discounting the theory that this came from the lab but you have to ask is there a conflict of interest? he was in favor of it still is in favor of funding chinese scientists. the people that he gave the money to at eco- health he is self interested also and doesn't want there to be any kind of truth that comes out that this came from the lab. do i know for certain it came from the lab? no but they have been downplaying and discounting this and not wanting to investigate because guess what, it boomerangs on them. all of their, you know, pretentiousness about taking care of us in the pandemic, what if it turns out that we were funding

you take care and what didn't and he fauci and the nih have to do with potential creation of covid? senator tom cotton is here on whether the doctor lied in the u.s. senate today. e tseallow w tirifto w r. ol w.. wke it me annoh kp erneorki a gig r thr vis. eye t iny,whh lirs wi st t yo intnedoha enncyo oinpeen thvefaered it me annoh kp erneorki a gig r thr vis. th is rkth irdy,whh lirs wi st t oo fm rae ofelblops and abt r sttg >> you still support fundi >> you still support funding of nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> with all the respect you are entirely is completely incorrect that the nih has ever and does not now, gain a function or research and the wuhan institute. >> you are saying -- >> that are not correct. laura: the ingraham angle has been on this from the start. >> doctor fauci has a lot more to answer for. you are aware gain function research was shut down in 2014 in the united states, immediately doctor fauci's group at the nih transferred the research to the wuhan lab. jillian: joining me is arkansas senator tom cotton, a member of the senate intel committee, is doc

the nih director, dr. , told lawmakers today that money did make its way to the wuhan institute of virology through an outside group called eco health alliance. that group was awarded by the nih a $3.7 million grant. eco health gave $600,000 of it to the wuhan lab for a china bat research project. that project helped build the library of 15,000 bat samples, 400 new coronaviruses were discovered including one that had a 96% match to covid-19. lawmakers today wanted to know if the wuhan lab could be using this babb library of viruses to try to engineer one to be more dangerous and more contagious, something called gain of function research. >> we're of course not aware of other sources of funds or other activities that they might have undertaken outside of what our approved grant allowed. >> so we could have sent money through eco health alliance, money could have behinded up in the wuhan institute of virology, which might be doing gain of function research. >> dr. fauci was also asked today at a separate eve

you know, the nih lifted ban on that research in 2017. ight, claudia, congresswoman, we're going to come back to you, here's the president talking about the ceasefire now between the israel and p hamas. >> -- spoken with prime minister netanyahu, earlierh today i spoe with presidential i is sissy of- el sisi of egypt. israel has agreed the a mutual unconditional ceasefire to begin in less than two hours. the egyptians have have now informed us that hamas and the other groups in gaza have also agreed. my conversation with president netanyahu, i commended him for the decision to bring the current hostilities to a close in less than 11 days. i also emphasized what i said throughout this conflict. the united states fully supports israel's right to defend itself against indiscriminate rocket attacks fromd hamas and other gaza-based terrorist groups that have taken the lives of innocent civilians in israel. the prime minister also shared with me his appreciation for the iron dome system which our nations developed together and which has saved li

fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan?tor paul, with all due respect you're entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> government scientists like yourself who favor gain of function. >> i don't favor gain of function research in china. not correct. >> dana: dr. marc siegel is here to weigh in. lucas tomlinson is at the pentagon. what can you tell us? >> many republicans in addition to senator paul are pressing the chinese to cough up more information how this virus originated and accusing beijing of a cover-up. dr. fauci says he does support a full investigation. >> will you in front of this group categorically say the covid-19 could not have occurred through serial passage in a laboratory? >> i do not have any accounting of what the chinese may have done and i'm fully in favor of any further investigation of what went on in china. however, i will repeat again the nih and niad categorically has not funded gain of function research t

fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding on the lab in wuhan?tor paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the wuhan institute -- >> do you fund dr. barrett's gain-of-function research? >> dr. barrett is not doing gain-of-function research, and if -- >> a bad -- at least 200 scientists have signed a statement from the cambridge working group saying that it is a gain-of-function. >> well, it is not. >> tucker: oh, so he just flat out denied it. but if you listen carefully and if you kept listening, fauci admitted that actually, he may have signed off on funding of gain-of-function experiments. he went on to testify, "i do not have any accounting of what the chinese may have done." okay. isn't it your job to know what they are doing since it was our money? but he said, "i am fully in favor of any further investigation into what went on in china." what is the true here? alex berenson has spent a lot of time looking into this and into the broader

but the nih director today told lawmakers their grant did not fund that. but he doesn't know what else the lab was up to. it was those concerns that prompted grant money to be frozen, that ecohealth alliance was rewarded. nih last year over concerns what may have been going on in the wuhan lab wrote to ecohealth alliance in july saying this, the nih received reports that the wuhan institute of virology has been conducting research at its facilities in china pose serious biosafety concerns. we have concerns that wiv has not satisfied safety requirements under the award and ecohealth alliance has not satisfied its obligation to monitor that. i did talk with a spokesperson with ecohealth alliance this afternoon. they tell me that as of today that grant money that they were awarded still is frozen and they have received no direction from the nih when that money or if that money will be unfrozen and made available to them. charles? charles: my head is spinning. i mean we're funding anything, why are we funding anything in china let alone these labs? and then the

what percentage of the nih s. unding is going to be directed towards potential therapies for long covid in the coming months? pr it's not premature at all, dr. buschon.owing w i think patients listening to b. this hearing probably are really interested in knowing what is t this meta cohort all about and t is ito basically collecting i information or are youni about trying to find answer? we are all about trying to find answers. we would aim to initiate wha therapeutic innovations as soon as we have the cohort together. in a way, we've already startedt that in one instance. we're running a lot of clinicale trials on acute covid. we have now enrolled participants who are over their acute face in anticoagulants. w it may be part of long covid. that's already under way. there will be other opportunities to do this. we'll have to think about what d exactly would be the safe kind of interventions that have a sy decent chance of success. we'll design those to know if they've worked or not.ally g i want to say very much to

. >> the nih vaccine is based on a fascinating new technology. mrna. s the coronavirus spike gene. in oxford's vaccine they smuggle this gene into the body with an inactivated cold virus, a viral vector. cells use the gene as a blueprint to make the spike protein, which, in turn, triggers an antibody response. an mrna vaccine doesn't use a vector to deliver the blueprint. what you are looking at is the vaccine. nothing but mrna wrapped in a cozy bundle of lipids, or fat. using that genetic blueprint, your cells become little factories, churning out the spike protein over and over again to trigger those all-important antibodies. >> so if you can put the blueprint of the mrna into the cell, that cell will build your structure. >> simple and elegant. and barney thought it could produce a stronger immune response. but all off this is brand new. from the outside it might have seemed like a risky bet, a hail mary. but if there ever was a time to try something new, this was it. >> i think the 4th of february we already had research-grade product to start our m

fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan?senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> shannon: steve, i'm not a doctor. it seems like there are potentially some semantics going on that there was some level of funding flowing to a place that was manipulating viruses. what can you tell me about what you found? >> it's incredibly clear from the evidence, the paper trail, published documents. it's in the nih public website listing of programs or in other scientific papers that we have published starting in january on our show that what dr. fauci said was false. the nih has been funding to the tune of millions of millions of dollars. gain of function research. that's where you take a virus and in the lab make it more infectious. to increase its function, hence the name. the intent behind it is a noble one which is to see if you can make a virus more infectious in the lab. then you can prepare your d

the money that the nih gave way to an american organization, turned around and gave hundreds of thousandsto the wuhan labs to investigate coronavirus' and to find ways to make them more contagious and more dangerous, we asked francis collins, dr. fauci's boss to come clean, tell us exactly what was happening and why the research was being funded, as you point out in a time when obama administration had explicitly banned this gain of function research. research in the making deadly of passage in even more dangerous and there could be an example here of the public health bureaucrats thinking they know better and they're not going to answer to political oversight and accountability even the obama administration and they went ahead with the research that could be very dangerous, that is why it's imperative that the nih come clean and tell us exactly what happened. maria: you talk about the word games that dr. fauci was playing, we know a general named peter the health eco-alliance the nonprofit that took money from the nih and sent it over to wuhan, here is peter day six who runs out alliance

fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> do they fund dr. bar rack? >> we do not fund -- >> do you fund dr. barrett? >> dr. barrett does not do gain of function research and if it is, it's according to the guidelines, and it is being conducted in north carolina and not in china. >> so do you still support sending money to the wuhan virology institute? >> we do not send money -- >> we did under your tutelage. we were sending it through ecohealth. it was a sub agency and a sub grant. do you support that the money from nih that was going to the wuhan institute -- >> let me explain to you why that was done. the sars cohv-1 originated in bats in china. it would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been infected in china. >> or perhaps it would be irresponsible to send it to the

origins of the pandemic and i understand nih is working on response iwant to thank you for your attention. the question is do you believe that it is the public interest to have a comprehensive scientific investigation into the pandemic origins and do you agree with the director general of the world health organization that further investigation into corn origins is needed, including reviewing possible links to the potential laboratory leak? >> yes, i do believe that an investigation following on the original investigation is needed. you may have seen "the wall street journal" reports just yesterday indicating that there is a serious effort not within the u.s. government between the state department, the foreman of health and human services and the foreman of agriculture and five other federal agencies to put forward to who what we believe ought to be the component of such a follow-up investigation and should be science -based, looking at evidence and should be rigorous and should try to get answers to the questions that the first investigation was not a

you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih does not now fund again of function research e band of function research. that is not correct. elizabeth: that was dr. fauci denying that he approved gain oe function research in china, this was the relating viruses to make them more infectious but what dr. fauci is not saying is not telling you ten years ago dr. fauci co-authored a washington post opinion piece in 2011 that calls for creating a laboratory virus that does not exist in nature and generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory to investigate more m vaccines made let's welce to the show ohio congressman he's a member of house financial services, mara davidson, were continuing to see more information surfacing, what is your reaction to this. >> dr. fauci lost credibility to say that was an equivocation we will see where it goes but clearly he supported it, there might be technical difference in terms of when and how specifically gain of function was funded but dr. fauci has been in his role since 1984 which is a fitting reference to the crazy stuff that h

jen psaki: i am happy to send you to the nih about what programs they funded in the details. reporter: one more follow-up. dr. anthony fauci is one of the voices to discredit the lab leaks theory, but now there are more officials in the administration, the nih director , who said this cannot be ruled out, and there calls for more investigation. who does the president agree with? does he think there was a slab leak? jen psaki: we have said there needs to be a credible, independent investigation through the who that relies on data, participation from china, and other countries that may have information. that is something everyone has called for. reporter: why hasn't the president spoken with xi jinping about it? jen psaki: we gave up, out of the call. the president believes there should be an independent investigation led by health experts, where data is provided transparently to our medical and science experts in the u.s., and we look forward to reviewing that. i'm sorry, i think you had plenty of time today. go ahead. reporter: secretary yellen talked about how schools being

we already know the nih funneled taxpayer dollars to build will harm institute of virology for bat coronavirusearch, even doctor fauci admits but still denies funding so-called gain of function experiments. >> you give the money and use it don't do gain of function research. >> correct. >> they said we won't. >> correct. >> you way no way of knowing accept you trust them. is that right? >> we generally always trust the grantee to do what they say. >> how do you know they didn't do the research and but put it on their website? >> there is no way of guaranteeing that. >> fauci isn't saying he personally opposes gain of function research. in 2012 he offered his support for these risky experiments writing in a journal article the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. it is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. joining me is stephen mosher, author of bully of asia and president of population research institute, also joining us

the niad. part of fauci's nih. an m.i.t. gist reviewed that paper and found that certain techniques the researchers used seemed to meet the defend -- the definition of gain of function. fauci may have his hand all over these risky experiments. but instead fauci is celebrated while donald trump was scorned. that was the narrative from the beginning of this pandemic which the media has a vested interest in protecting, which is why the media won't ask fauci about this, even though he's on tv he single day. jeffrey epstein haunting bill gates from the grave. gates from the grave. we have it. the first person to survive alzheimer's disease gates from the grave. we have it. is out there. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen by funding scientific breakthroughs, advancing public policy, and providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers. but we won't get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer's association. jesse: one of the wealthiest couples in the world, bill and m

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the nih under his leadership has funded data function research and collaboration with the slab.'t know what to make of that, i don't know if it's actually the virus coming from that research or not, it's hard to say. what i can say is that it undermines his credibility when he doesn't in this way. he tells rand paul one thing and now admits to the nih -- that the nih did fund some of this research. i think it's part of a broader program at the credibility of public health figures like dr. fauci. public health and dr. he thought she himself have been telling the public over and over as -- look, we're going to have an explosion of cases. he's let the public a straight time and time again. i don't even know what to say. it's an amazing thing to even watch. >> laura: does he need to retire? it's a blunt question, but at some point do you just need to say you know, i give it my all. got to go. >> i think someone -- we need new leadership absolutely. public health is a long way to gain credibility with the american public. >> laura: speaking of, he doesn't think our kids are safe whil