. >> the nih cutting what's called indirect cost payments down to 15%. the payments are made to universities in conjunction with the grants the nih doles out for research. the money covers everything from administrative staff to facilities such as labs and top research. universities can typically see rates well above 50%. >> so to go down drastically to 15% was shocking. today. >> doctor monica gandhi is the director of the ucsf center for aids research. >> we will go down to an indirect rate that's so drastically cut, we won't be able to do a lot of our work. >> i'm also very worried about the uncertainty of what's going to happen. >> doctor pamela munster is a professor of medicine at ucsf. her cancer treatment, research and clinical trials are often the last line of hope. >> my patients who are in clinical trials that are funded by the national cancer institute, are they continuing with their treatment? and like a lot of patients, as you can imagine, are quite anxious. >> meanwhile, doctor gandhi says the impacts will be far reaching. >> everyone who w

. >> the nih cutting what's called indirect cost payments down to 15%. the payments are made to universities in conjunction with the grants the nih doles out for research. the money covers everything from administrative staff to facilities such as labs and top research. universities can typically see rates well above 50%. >> so to go down drastically to 15% was shocking. today. >> doctor monica gandhi is the director of the ucsf center for aids research. >> we will go down to an indirect rate that's so drastically cut, we won't be able to do a lot of our work. >> i'm also very worried about the uncertainty of what's going to happen. >> doctor pamela munster is a professor of medicine at ucsf. her cancer treatment, research and clinical trials are often the last line of hope. >> my patients who are in clinical trials that are funded by the national cancer institute, are they continuing with their treatment? and like a lot of patients, as you can imagine, are quite anxious. >> meanwhile, doctor gandhi says the impacts will be far reaching. >> everyone who w

. >> the nih cutting what's called indirect cost payments down to 15%. the payments are made to universities in conjunction with the grants the nih doles out for research. the money covers everything from administrative staff to facilities such as labs and top research. universities can typically see rates well above 50%. >> so to go down drastically to 15% was shocking. today. >> doctor monica gandhi is the director of the ucsf center for aids research. >> we will go down to an indirect rate that's so drastically cut, we won't be able to do a lot of our work. >> i'm also very worried about the uncertainty of what's going to happen. >> doctor pamela munster is a professor of medicine at ucsf. her cancer treatment, research and clinical trials are often the last line of hope. >> my patients who are in clinical trials that are funded by the national cancer institute, are they continuing with their treatment? and like a lot of patients, as you can imagine, are quite anxious. >> meanwhile, doctor gandhi says the impacts will be far reaching. >> everyone who w

we need, and there are areas in health and human services were if you touch the gold standard for the nih and cdc, i will have a problem with that nominee and we will bring that up during oversight. it was for those reasons, and the fact that there is not a single organization that i consider to be credible in this space, and agriculture, second amendment, or pro-life, who have openly objected to scorn this vote. i believe silence is consent, and the fact that they haven't instruct me that the folks instructed by are ok with the nomination, and for those reasons i voted for mr. kennedy. chair crapo: thank you, senator tillis. senator warren. sen. warren: thank you, mr. chairman since we had our hearing last week, mr. kennedy has amended his ethics agreement. recall that his ethics agreement said that when he was secretary of hhs, he intended to retain financial interest in ongoing vaccine litigation that he was already collecting money from, and that he wanted to continue to collect that money even though he could affect the outcome of that litigation. now, he has since changed his positi

the university is among the top nih funded institutions in the country. in 2023, it received more than $789 million in grants from the agency. johns hopkins, the only other university to receive more. >> two senators of every state are going to be called continuously this weekend by university presidents saying, you know. >> in a social media post, the nih notes that 9 billion of the $35 billion it granted for research last year was used to cover indirect costs. and by lowering the maximum rate universities can receive for these indirect costs to 15%. the government will save more than $4 billion a year. it also means the nation's top research universities, which typically see a payment rate of above 60%, stand to be crippled. the university of california, providing us with a statement reading in part. life saving treatments for cancer, diabetes and strokes, including in children and new technologies and industries that translate into hundreds of thousands of well-paying jobs, are all at risk. the statement also warning for decades, the national institute

the university is among the top nih funded institutions in the country. in 2023, it received more than $789 million in grants from the agency. johns hopkins, the only other university to receive more. >> two senators of every state are going to be called continuously this weekend by university presidents. >> in a social media post, the nih notes that 9 billion of the $35 billion it granted for research last year was used to cover indirect costs, and by lowering the maximum rate universities can receive for these indirect costs to 15%. the government will save more than $4 billion a year. it also means the nation's top research universities, which typically see a payment rate of above 60%, stand to be crippled. the university of california, providing us with a statement reading in part. life saving treatments for cancer, diabetes and strokes, including in children and new technologies and industries that translate into hundreds of thousands of well-paying jobs, are all at risk. the statement also warning for decades, the national institutes of health has p

the university is among the top nih funded institutions in the country. in 2023, it received more than $789 million in grants from the agency. johns hopkins, the only other university to receive more. >> two senators of every state are going to be called continuously this weekend by university presidents. >> in a social media post, the nih notes that 9 billion of the $35 billion it granted for research last year was used to cover indirect costs, and by lowering the maximum rate universities can receive for these indirect costs to 15%. the government will save more than $4 billion a year. it also means the nation's top research universities, which typically see a payment rate of above 60%, stand to be crippled. the university of california, providing us with a statement reading in part. life saving treatments for cancer, diabetes and strokes, including in children and new technologies and industries that translate into hundreds of thousands of well-paying jobs, are all at risk. the statement also warning for decades, the national institutes of health has p

the new administration has hamptoned all meetings and grant reviews by the nih. funding is vital, capitalized, to researching what causes and how to treat so many diseases, including the one my uncle suffers. please push to fully fund the nih so we can continue to research and treat terrible diseases that would impact all of us and our families. next, here's a message i received about how the trump freeze could hurt staff, researchers and students at southern illinois university. southern illinois university estimates they have approximately 550 employees paid fully or partially through federal dollars. a pause in funding in the programs they lead and research they perform in areas like treating alzheimer's or ensure the food we eat is safe would keep them from earning a salary. the trio upward bound program in east st. louis serves 225 participants between both programs. the majority of whom come from low-income college-bound families. these students face significant challenges, including academic barriers, limited access to resources and lack of college prepara

we need, and there are areas of health and human services that if you touch the gold standard for the nih cdc, then i'll have a problem with that nominee, and we will bring that up during oversight. sen. warnock: mr. kennedy appears more obsessed in chasing conspiracy theories than chasing solutions to lower health care calls for working families in georgia and to make sure that we are protected. the last thing we need is a dilettante dabbling in conspiracy theories at hhs. lisa: now, this came down to a single republican senator, bill cassidy of louisiana, himself a physician. he had expressed real concerns about the vaccine views of kennedy. today, he voted yes, because kennedy agreed to certain things. cassidy said on the senate floor the kennedy agreed that he will make no changes to the vaccine recommendations from hhs and that he would seek congressional approval for any major policy changes by hhs, and get this, that kennedy and cassidy would meet regularly, multiple times a month. now, the thing here is whatever agreement kennedy has made, everybody knows, and kennedy himself has

$182 million in administrative expenses, including $168,000 contract for anthony fauci exhibit at the niheum. really? you've got to be kidding. doge is auditing the consumer bureau as well as medicare and medicaid with plans to examine the department of education and the pentagon and according to primm they're going through everything. they should turn over every y penny and nickel. if the democrats were smart they would cheer what elon musk is doing at doge. they are returning america to its constitutional orders. what our framers and our founders renovationed. limited government, greater freedom, eliminating waste, fraud and abuse. the republicans have lectured us about this for years and now they have a chance to actually do the job. by the way, it shouldn't be a partisan issue. we should be good stewards of taxpayer money. the democratic party is such a pathetic self-righteous train wreck they're willing to attack anything that donald trump supports whether it's common sense, it doesn't matter. they lost and trump won and now the swamp is getting drained one way or another. here with

we're home to the nih and the fda. these are people who work every day to try to develop treatments and cures to diseases that impact the country, including vaccines. and rfk s spread of misinformation will put american lives at risk. i'm glad you mentioned russ vote because he's gotten less attention. probably because republicans will vote for him. as you said, we boycotted the voting session in committee because the chairman of the committee, senator lindsey graham, refused to conduct the hearing and the voting session in public. we think it's important that people know who russ vote is and what he will do. so of all these nominees, he can be the most dangerous because he's at the command and control center of every agency's budget, right. so this is an office within the executive branch of the office of the president. russ, vote at the hearing refused to commit to following the law. in other words, he refused to say that when congress duly enacts, you know, funds to support communities and kids and education around

science and none of the prior experiences or organizations and health and human services but the cdc and nih and others under the umbrella of healthcare and let's be candid, mr. kennedy was running for president and he lost and approached president trump to make a deal and for political reasons the deal was made and the president has a right to make that deal but it doesn't translate into competence. the priority but the vaccine, we need reliable vaccines and not conspiracy theorists on the healthcare system is not working for the american people. it's too costly. employers care deeply. the folks getting insurance on their own can't afford even obamacare and prices are escalating with providers in private equity getting into healthcare. this was about his view of vaccines, not healthcare more affordable and accessible. mr. kennedy showed willful ignorance three of the healthcare system not serving as a should, the interest of american citizens, american businesses and american taxpayers and i did not have confidence mr. kennedy would be the one to a better future. >> thank you, senator welsh

viewers, the hhs secretary will oversee, i think it's like 18 different entities, including the cdc, the nihe fda. the centers for medicare and medicaid. and doctor gupta. we saw kennedy maybe struggle during his confirmation hearing with some elements of the medicaid and medicare often confusing the two. some republicans have talked about slashing funds for medicaid, which. >> costs about. >> $600 billion a year. do you have any concerns with kennedy in that area? >> you know, it wasn't clear that he understood the difference between medicare and medicaid. medicare advantage i mean, these are complex things. you know, it takes years, decades to really master it. so, yes, there is concerns there. it didn't seem like he understood funding flows, that these aren't just all funded by the federal government, that the states have a stake here as well when it comes to medicare and medicaid. and so that's that's concerning, especially since he is ultimately getting all these things are going to roll up to him. if he gets confirmed, he doesn't know where the budgets are arising from, what needs to b

so it starts up the value chain at nih. 85% of spending at the nih is pharmaceutical r&d.they are accepting the fact we are getting sicker and sicker and the nih itself is just studying band-aids to profit from chronic disease to help the pharmaceutical industry print is why they liable sloppy so much for nih funding. the first step is resetting the mission and president trump talked about the question and answering the question why are we getting sick. that then underlies eventually what is everything, the american medical association code, the goal is to provide the most efficacious treatment for the reversal. it does not do it now, 95% of that is after we get sick. you could have codes for exercise. in europe if a woman has pc os they get an insurance subsidized diet because that is a metabolic condition that can be brought down very quickly if you limit sugar in your diet. right now in america women don't even hear that they are jammed on hormone pills right to ivf. same thing with obesity. novo nordisk, that company the market cap is largely the entire gene pool of de

our government administrative assistants, the villains, the nih scientists and researchers, the federal agents, the prosecutors, environmental regulators? air traffic controllers? are they the villains? but most importantly, vote has unorthodox views about his own role as the director of omb. he's spoken about how the expansive powers of the presidency also mean taking more control of the white house's budget by ensuring that executive branch spending aligns with the president's ideology. at his confirmation hearing last month, he explicitly said that he thinks the impoundment control act of 1974 is unconstitutional. that law reasserts congress's constitutionally mandated power of the purse and prevents the president from withholding funds that congress has appropriated and approved. it was made into law after congress suspected that richard nixon withheld funds for programs that he opposed, even though congress had lawfully allocated that money. by the way, that's why donald trump was impeached the first time for not spending money that congress had had approved for ukraine vote. stron

million in administrative expenses expenses including $168,000 contract for an anthony fauci exhibit at the nih museum. really? you've got to be kidding. doge is also auditing the consumer bureau, as well as medicare and medicaid, with plans to fully examine the department of education, the pentagon. and according to president trump, they're going to go through everything. and by the way, they should literally turn over every penny, every nickel before they spend your money. if democrats were smart, if they were honest, if they were not corrupt, they would cheer for what is happening, what elon musk and his team are doing at doge. they are returning america to its constitutional order. what our framers and founders envisioned limited government, greater freedom, eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. republicans have lectured us about this for years. now they have a chance to actually do the job. and by the way, it shouldn't be a partizan issue. we should be good stewards of taxpayer money. the democratic party is such a pathetic, self-righteous train wreck that they're willing to attack anything

. >> by the nih. >> i'm taking control. >> like millions. >> of others. >> erin burnett out front. next on cnn. >> this sunday, the philadelphia eagles are all that remained between the kansas city chiefs and an historic super bowl threepeat. cnn sports anchor andy scholes is joining us from new orleans. andy. folks ready for the game.? >> oh, certainly. jim, it's been just a beautiful day here in new orleans. a beautiful week. and all the eagles and chiefs fans have been just walking around the french quarter enjoying it ahead of the game. but you know, only one of those fan bases is going to be happy come sunday night. as you mentioned, the chiefs going for that historic three peat. it's really hard to bet against patrick mahomes getting it done. he's 15 and zero playing indoors. and of course the game is indoors. this year it's at the superdome. he's also eight and zero against the eagles. defensive coordinator vic fangio. and the chiefs. they've won 17 straight one score games. whenever these games are close. mahomes just finds a way to get it done. and i actually got the chance

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the big innovation state. and innovation in health care specifically. innovation like nihfunding to the cancer center that helped develop the hpv vaccine which has the potential to eliminate over 95% of cervical cancer. nih also funds jobs and grants nearly 11,000 people in the state of washington and over 1.2 -- $1.2 billion worth of grants. while i agree with you on healthy foods, i definitely am troubled by the medical research side of innovation and things you have said. in fact, this issue about laying off 600 employees at nih or giving the fact that to quote give infectious disease a break for eight years. we have had a chance to talk about this a little bit. the most striking example of this was when covid hit. we were the first in the nation. we had the first case. it really was the vast response by the university of washington that really helped save lives. so, i just want to know, are you aware of how harmful these issues could be for public health? that public health in and of itself could be affected by these kinds of anti-science abuse? mr. kennedy: senator, i

the nih you know, the sort of last week freezing all the federal grants which they walked back they'reings that are sort of have everybody, you know, chasing chasing our tails for sanctuary. you know, i think there's a lot of misunderstanding of what sanctuary is. you know, sanctuary is basically just saying that our local law enforcement is not going to be acting as agents of the federal government that their job is to deal with crime and safety here in san francisco that who ever someone is whatever their status is. we want them to report crimes to our police and we don't want them to feel like if they do that, they might be arrested themselves because of their status. we want people to people to go to our public health system, to our hospitals, win their second. we want people to put their kids in schools. those are the reasons we have sanctuary were not, you know how to protect criminals and we're not going to thwart federal immigration officers doing their job. but we are not going to use our local elect. our local officials, our local employees, to enforce federal immigration law

well, we have the nih and you can fund that infrastructure. rtisan infrastructure bill. we can do more of that, counter the belt and road, the chinese initiative. well, we have the international development finance corporation put more money in that. the reality is we have programs and national priorities, and they can be funded. and the source of that money is ultimately going to be the us economy and the tax power of the of the federal government. so i don't know what problem we're solving. if we were to create this and to create it, you have to raise taxes and stick it in the fund, not spend the money. and that is not something this congress or administration does very. >> well. >> because the countries that and for people not listening. a sovereign wealth fund, for lack of a better term, is a government that is generally a rich government puts a bunch of their excess cash flow into an investment idea, and then they go out and buy stakes or buy companies. singapore has one, norway has one, saudi arabia has one, a few others. but those are th

he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans' health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nih and those as have already been indicated are my priorities as chairman of the help committee. i look forward to his support in accomplishing it. if confirmed, i look forward to working together with mr. kennedy to achieve president trump's mission of improving the help of eslp of

nih. i said give infectious disease a break because that has been the principal preoccupation. infectious disease -- chronic disease is -- it accounts for 92% of deaths in this country and almost nothing is studied at nih about the epidemic. money is going to infectious disease. sen. cantwell: i get your point. it is an interesting point. we had to respond. the gates foundation and a cohort figured out what was wrong and we headed out break of covid that was going beyond the very first case. we had to build a fast response. i take this too, the university of washington has conducted groundbreaking study on fetal cell research. people might not agree with this but we are making regenerative heart tissue. mr. kennedy: i will protect stem cell research. stem cell research can be done on umbilical cords and you do not need fetal tissue. sen. cantwell: you protect the laws on the books today? mr. kennedy: my job is to enforce the laws. sen. cantwell: i want to move to pbms, which are driving up drug prices. we need to get a handle on everything driving up prices and lower them. the r

he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans' health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nih and those as have already been indicated are my priorities as chairman of the help committee. i look forward to his support in accomplishing it. if confirmed, i look forward to working together with mr. kennedy to achieve president trump's mission of improving the trump's mission of improving the from washington to across the country. north carolina republican congressman afghan war veteran and armed service committee member talks about his legislative priorities and house republicans agenda. tennessee democrat member of the senate judiciary talks about elon musk doge ever. president trump's meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin yahoo. also political echo no correspondent reviewing the use of tariffs to achieve policy goals. c-span washington journal, join the conversation live at seven eastern wednesday morning on c-span, c-spa now or online at c-span.org. >> live wednesdayn c-span. at 10:00 a.m. eastern the house begins work on the bl to permanently classy fentanyl related su

the scan found spots on his brain. he's still undergoing diagnostic tests. nih had a treatment protocol prepared for if the cancer did spread to his brain. once trump took office in january, however, james was told the research was frozen indefinitely and he won't be getting any nih care until that changes. james is continuing treatment with a medicare insurance plan provided by kaiser permanente, and he qualified for financial assistance grant through may. but he worries that the trump administration will end that financial assistance. james receives disability payments and his wife is a teacher so they can't afford high out-of-pocket payments. quote, when i heard about this, i thought, am i going to lose my husband? is he going to die? his wife becky said. make no mistake, these are not one-off stories. families everywhere, all across the country, in red states and blue states are feeling the impacts of these policies. every one. now, make you knew about this. maybe you didn't. but trump is trying to keep you in the dark on some of these things while he distra

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supported by the very agencies and organizations representing academic scientific research, including the nih, hhs, fda, national institute of drug abuse. the hold fentanyl act would significantly loosen restrictions and just studying all schedule 1 substances not just frs's and open up promising areas of substance abuse research. in conclusion for the past six years come frs scheduling has been federal policy as a primary architect of the wisconsin law, cannot be more pleased. in a few short years, the creation and distribution of new frs has ground to a halt. in our battle against fentanyl, the elimination of related substances that previously escaped our scheduling and devastated communities across the nation is surely one bright spot but congress must take action and permanently close the spigot of frs's. the fact is you can't die from adjusting something never created nor can he be incarcerated for trafficking something that does not exist. that is the beauty and simplicity of frs scheduling. thank you for this time and i look forward to answering your questions. chair grassley: doctor,

the cuts that we are seeing to nih, the cuts that we're seeing to other agencies, people who are responsibleafety of americans, who make sure that our water is clean, the individuals, the civil servants and professionals who make sure that we are not poisoned by our foods. all of these things will have a direct impact and hit on the american people. but this research is critical research that will literally cost lives. >> senator, can you just take us inside some of the conversations you and your colleagues are having? democrats across the board just have been widely criticized since donald trump came back into office because of the response. some people say democrats have not responded quick enough. some people don't like the responses that have happened. others say, okay, great. now we're seeing a little bit of pushback. i've been you lies. he's been some of the some of the loudest critics out here. i'm just wondering what is the strategy because you have the executive branch is literally thumbing their nose and giving the proverbial middle finger to congress, to the senate, the greatest d

he was only really zeroing in on the discretionary grants nih grants and loan guarantees are the inflationction act for green energy. it was not going after entitlements, veterans benefits medicaid, social security, food stamps or any of that. it was very narrow. the problem was he did not explain all this of the omb did not explain this in the original memo which led to all kinds of confusion people thought all the sudden the medicaid systems were going down but that was not the case. boxeoxo is just a lack of clariy per minute issued it memo's tuto saythis is not these progry these. and wednesday they rescinded the memo. but is the paws on spending is still going to go on? >> i think so but that's of the press secretary clarified. we are going to continue to review these grants we are just not going to put an official pause which basically opens it up to litigation. they're going to continue to ensure they are spending all of the grants follows through with the priorities eliminating di, ensuring money or good money does not go after bad in terms of subsidizing vehicle companies that are

the average nih grant typically allows around 30% to be spent on infrastructure costs, like facilitiescurity and maintenance. but now new policy will cap that rate at 15%. agency defends the move, saying it aligns with the rates paid by private foundations. but critics call it a disastrously bad idea that could cost lives. now, this comes as avian flu is spreading here in the u.s. in an effort to stop it, new york's governor announced that all live bird markets interstate will temporarily shut down. gloria pazmino has the details. >> well, that order by the governor will require live poultry markets like the one you see behind me to shut down for several days to allow cleanup and disinfection before they're allowed to reopen on february 14th. this is after seven cases of bird flu were confirmed here in new york. now, seven cases were found in queens, in brooklyn and in the bronx, and places like the market you see behind me are now in the process of working through their inventory before they can shut down to begin that cleanup process. that's what the governor's order requires at this

fda, in order to get not just all the financial records, but personnel records at nih, patient records, records from various studies and various grants. so they want to. >> run roughshod over. >> the entire legal infrastructure, privacy rights of the people. >> all for their. >> own purposes, which may be governmental, they may be corporate, they may be private, they may be political. and right now, all we've got is the opportunity for courts to step in, to say that this data must be returned to the government, and we've got to end this raid on it by elon musk. >> i want to just note for the audience that donald trump has announced today that he's going to fire some january 6th investigators calling them, some of them corrupt. you responded actually to this normalized indian hate guy. and so it's sweet that you don't want to ruin a kid's life. saying to jd vance something to bear in mind next time you oppose gun safety laws. but does that mean that this kid should have access to private data of tens of millions of americans? and i will note one more thing just for the audience, the new

friends in the federal government who are scientists and nih researchers. and those folks are terrified to the corridors of the capitol. this is not only unethical, it's illegal, a it is unconstitutional. and we will fight back every single day. meanwhile, president trump has another battle on his hands the budget huddling with gop house lawmakers to move the ball forward. and i think we will. i think we're in a good place trying to create a path forward to avoid a government shutdown in just over a month. with the president doubling down today on his plans for the gaza strip, saying israel will hand over the land once fighting is done. questions growing on how to pay for president trump's ambitious agenda. on monday afternoon, the judge, who temporarily blocked the buyout plan, will hold a hearing on a request by some labor unions to put in place a longer restraining order in washington. yamiche alcindor, nbc news. thank you, yamiche. the centers for disease control back in business after it was forced to take a two week pause. it was suspended as part of t

off-again freezing of federal aid and the freeze on the work of essential public health agencies like the nih and the cdc will have devastating consequences for our economy and citizens if allowed to stand. she continues, i know you will do your best to protect and stand up for congress's constitutional rights. again, my constituents -- i do see this has a silver lining -- are looking at what is the role of congress? what did our founding fathers want? what is the role of the courts? can the executive just stand in there and do anything he wants and, of course, the answer is no. which is why you've seen litigation, which is why i've urged my constituents to write e-mails to me with these stories because actually we will create a record of exactly what is going on as these court cases continue in states all over the country because right now we have an administration, a president that took the oath to follow the constitution, to support and defend the constitution, but doesn't seem to be reading it. so she writes this -- i know you will do your best to protect and stand up for congress's const

the fact that hhs is an enormous department. >> with a ton. >> of agencies. >> beneath it. he would control a. $1.7 trillion. >> budget. >> and he wouldn't. >> just be in charge of things like cdc, nihcharge of things like medicare and medicaid, which he. struggled to clearly define. for instance, during these hearings, the differences between medicare part a and part b, but if we're just talking about vaccines, he could do damage there. he could make it harder to access certain vaccines. he could redirect funding priorities. you know, when he was first nominated for this position of hhs secretary, the public health experts and the scientists i spoke to were uniformly horrified. one of them described it to me as a genuine catastrophe. >> let's talk a little. you said something about when he sings, he says to friendlier audiences. i heard a term i hadn't heard before. my mom's make america healthier again moms. a lot of rfk's junior supporters are mothers whose children had infant illnesses or other health problems. these are often audiences that are truly susceptible to misinformation, and in fact, health misinformation may be as big or bigger than political misinformation on the in

. >> make. >> he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nihand those, as has already been indicated, are my priorities as chairman of the health committee. i look forward to his support in accomplishing this. if confirmed, i look forward to working together with mr.

he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans' health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nih, and those are already my priorities as chairman of that committee. i look forward to his support in accomplishing this. if confirmed, i look forward to working together with mr. kennedy to achieve president trump's mission of improving the health of all americans. and with that, i yield. host: on the independent line from tampa, this is ken. caller: i am calling to say that representative from north carolina, how come he said he landed a helicopter with the guys in north carolina where the flood took over but he never mentioned that those people should return back their own homes and yet he is supporting trump to not allow the palestinians to return home. and the last thing is they have elon musk access to the u.s. treasury while trump is doing all these distractions to keep people off of them coming in through the back door of the u.s. treasury while distracted on other things. what about the price of eggs, gas. eggs, none on the shelf. when is america going to wake up and understan

the national science foundation, for national laboratories across the country, at least medical research and scientific research, nihe things make a difference in the states. not to mention these these members of congress should be burning down the white house phone lines, hearing from their people because they're going to cancel all of the infrastructure spending that every one of these members of congress went back last year after voting against it and bragged about how much infrastructure spending they were bringing home to their districts. this, folks, is actually going to come down to a moment where where if americans start beating the door down on their members of congress and on their u.s. senators, it outweighs what they're seeing right now, which is their incel, 20 year old staff member going, yeah, boss, you're good on twitter. they need to be they need to know that people in their districts are. get out there, folks, and ring the bell. >> it is a part of our democracy that has to work, and has to work even more aggressively than it normally has in the past. rick wilson, molly jong-fast, thank you to the b

he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans' health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nihs already indicated are my priorities of chairman of the health committee. i look forward to his support in accomplishing this

he has the opportunity to address the most pertinent issues affecting americans' health. we also need to reform institutions like fda and nih and those as already indicated are my priorities of chairman of the health committee. i look forward to his support in news this hour as we begin news on "outnumbered." this pretty much insurers, absent casting changing, that rfk is the next secretary of -- >> let me tell you why it was so important to hear from the senator. he was the person that was holding out his vote. you see what he got for it. what he wanted was clarity around what his protection would be if he were to fight against rfk jr., with regard to vaccines. he wants the dynamic proof. he wants all those things if rfk jr. were to challenge vaccines. once that tumbler fell by, you can completely open the lock on this. when it gets to the senate fl floor, it doesn't just have the recommendation that it's coming out of committee. it's a positive recommendation. you have one vote more republicans and democrats voting for him. this is highly important, but so is senator collins. everybody who has said they've had misgivings