escalation of our war effort to target the taliban secure key population centers but despite what the obama administration and military officials have been saying as they try to sell this idea of progress helmand province where marjah is located saw insurgent attacks double just in this year and about the fact that the u.s. has now spent at least two billion dollars a year to keep the area secure and then the picture becomes even more bleak so a year later what if we learnt earlier i caught up with matthew hoh senior fellow at the center for international policy and the director of the afghanistan study group so i first asked him to look back to one year ago. the way that this marjah offensive assault the very high profile p.r. campaign that was launched and i wonder if that was a smart move. is this part of warfare information operations psychological operations whatever you you want term you want to use propaganda whatever your comfort with that's powerful warfare part of we did when we advertise so heavily was one to let the civilians get out ok because we don't want to as a policy we do

the obama administration calls the defense of marriage act unconstitutional. >>> the state's deteriorating awater management system may be heading to catastrophe unless bold steps are taken. >>> and "we were here" takes a look back at the aids years in san francisco. all coming up next. >>> good evening. i'm scott schaefer setting in for belva davis. welcome to "this week in northern california." joining me are dan brekke, josh richman, legal and political affairs reporter for the oakland tribune and carla marinucci, of "the san francisco chronicle." quite a kerfuffle in wisconsin, indiana, ohio. what's happening? what are the unions upset about? what does it mean for california? >> it has been called a tsunami on its way to california. the whole issue broke open this week. a lot of people wondering could california face the same kind of protests and action? this is all about money, power, and politics. the unions, particularly public employee unions are heart of the democratic party. they provide money, man power, and in states like wisconsin, we saw a republican governor challenge them o

the obama administration went to court in arizona to stop these practices from occurring. however, under the current conditions with a program in georgia the obama administration is the tabling the very kind of an arm it stopped to -- a move to stop in arizona. -- it moved to stop in arizona. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, gerry. we have time for 30 minutes of questions and in answeranswers. this is being videotaped and will be on our website at the end of our day or as soon as we can. we will take about a few minutes of question and answers. please identify yourself and your affiliation, and if you could direct it to a particular panelists, please do that. >> my name is some of the last does -- sonia valequez. one of our concerns on the issue of immigration is the well-being of children of immigrant families. there are three issues around this from what i have been hearing on the studies. one is related to children who are citizens because of birth and their parents are subject to removal. what are good practices and what are issues related to this? the other one is i

the ballot. and, josh, a different kind of union story. unions between same hif sex couples, obama administration coming to the conclusion that the defense of marriage act is unconstitutional. they won't defend it anymore. tell us what that means, especially for folks in california. >> what it doesn't mean is there thaw there will be an instantaneous affect on the prop eight. >> remind us. >> it was a constitutional amendment that defined marriage definetively as one man, one woman. currently under challenge. and a federal judge has found it unconstitutional under a couple of provisions of the 14th amendment. gone to the ninth circuit court of appeals. and they have bumped a question of legal standing over to the california supreme court, because the state has declined to defend it any further, the proponents would like to do that, but there is some question they are allowed. >> is this related to doma? >> no. doma is a federal statute, and prop eight is at the state level. we have the president of the united states opining that a federal law banning same-sex marriage cannot be con

here is the thing. barack obama invited me to dinner in 2005 and i really did not have a strong opinion of the guy going in. i did not want to this is speech in 2004 i was playing poker that night. because i never watch a convention because it is either great and depress he is not the nominee like it would have been a -- would have been. so it did not matter. you might as well have fun. i did not see it but i wind had dinner completely cold. i heard nice things but nothing specific. i was blown away by his boys, self-confidence, and good humor and strong progressive orientation and remember leaving the restaurant walking around a neighborhood in washington d.c. may be thinking my daughter who at the time was seven, would one day be able to vote for this man in the presidential election. i never imagined anything like his candidacy of the next three years. that was literally beyond anything i could dream of at that point*. as we all know, barack obama is president of the united states and he ran a very powerful campa

presidency from making good on the obama candidacy? now, it's not, sure, obama and his administration did a lot of things wrong. and we can talk about that during the question and answer period. i have my view you have your view. we probably share a lot of views. just off the top of my head i'll tell you i don't understand why he didn't try and affect a more rhetorically inspiring presidency the way john kennedy and franklin roosevelt and to be honest ronald reagan did. i think he had that opportunity and he had that talent and he chose not to do it. and there were other strategic mistakes undoubtedly that he made. but the problem with his inability to pass this legislation was not strategic errors by the president or tactical errors by the president and it didn't relate necessarily to the failure of his communications job although there was a failure of his communications job. it related to fundamental road blocks in the system that would face any president, any progressive president trying to enact the kinds of promises that obama mad

the g.o.p. strongest bet to run against president obama? the meter is split 6-6. gloria and john, you're in the yes column. best candidate to run as a republican. >> he's very strong because he's one of the people or one of the only people who can unite the tea party people with the establishment republicans. he can reach out to hispanics. and he's been a practicing nonpolitics. and a practicing nonpolitician for quite some team now. saying i'm out of politics. chris: that helms. and tampa, going to be 100 degrees in september, will he excite the batchman and the palin crowd, does he have the juice for that? >> look, that is the big question. and here are some facts. one fact is that the republican field is the weakest field that nebraska has seen and republicans all -- that anybody has seen and republicans and there are handful of republican governors who have been going to jeb bush with regularity. chris: the biggies, haley, christie? >> serious people. and have been going to him saying you must run. the third thing is his response is no. i'm not going to run. h

it is counterproductive to the chilen. obamast -- he is -- they are the reason they got rid of the doctors in d.c., which desperately needed them. host: who funds your organization? guest: thousands of people who make donations to support school choice. who funds the anti-out campaigns? i think -- anti-voucher campaigns? i think susanit on that. it is the school -- it is the unions. the teachers' unio are on the wrong side of history. there are certain to get school chce programs eliminated. the people paying the bill are the hard-working teachers having money taken out in dues, in many cases without any choice, and they do support school choice. it is unfortunate. host: home schooling -- guest: homeschooling is a good option. i love that out when i was mentioning other options -- left that out when i was mentioning other options do we need to hav all options on the table for parents. to reach equality, we need quality. host: we have a separate line for educators and students. here are the first three. the fourth line as well. w

some of the statements made by the obama administration. ur "roundtable" by george will, arianna huffington, robert kagan, of the brookings institute, and mona eltahawy, an egyptian journalist. george, to you first, the fierce criticisms of president obama by the republicans on how this was handled. fair play? >> not fair. these conservatives have a bifurcated vine. they say, at home, rightly, the government exaggerates the competence. then overseas, they fault the government for not fine-tuning an extraordinarily fluid event. the administration is not ahead of events because no one knows where the events are heading. we are right now in the second inning of a nine-inning game. on the government side, we have bonapartism would the bonaparte. on the protesters side, you have no leaders, no lech walesa. we have unled spontaneousness about this. there's a continuing danger. 1952, nasser comes to power. 1954, millions of egyptians go into the streets. he says, not to worry, we're going have elections. protesters are squashed. >> no one of those

that's happening more and more often under the obama administration journalists lawyers stop at the u.s. border when there were turning from trips abroad being detained for hours having their laptops their cameras cell phones confiscated and all the material on the copy and when asked why they were told that they are on a list but is this in violation of the first and fourth amendments treating people like criminals without giving them justifiable cause or the a.c.l.u. says so and earlier i caught up with catherine crump attorney with the a.c.l.u. speech privacy and technology program and i first asked her if the a.c.l.u. was aware of how often this was happening not even necessarily the one time searches but people who experience this treatment time and time again whenever they cross the border. that's a really good question unfortunately there isn't the public answer to that question but we've heard a lot of anecdotal evidence of people coming to us and complaining about this and it seems like sometimes when you're search once perhaps even randomly that just leads to a cycle where you

economy is the political price too high for the obama administration. the two. and a middle class movement trying to make its way in america so divided along political and past lives so has the fight for union rights opened up wounds that are unlikely to actually heal. and as the united states deals with problems from labor unrest to skyrocketing war prices what america's standing at the revenue everyone's talking about it including the infamous of bernie made off he says the whole government is a ponzi scheme. what do we want. rolling back support as wal-mart looks to take a bite out of the big apple not everyone is buying into capitalism we're going to take a look at the high cost of cheap food. today it's monday february twenty eighth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm going to saucy you're watching our team if you're driving these days and most americans are a trip to the gas station is probably pretty painful right now always for your pocket that's because protests in the middle east have had more or more repercussions than just getting rid of some leaders

the first one? i think that we cannot -- president obama. uding william jefferson clinton. who they call the first black president. he has never had a black agenda. it's always latinos, jewish. president obama met with the head of urban league on black unemployment and other blacks say why did he come outside to address the black agenda. it was on black agenda. it is the dignity of -- >> he should address the changes that the african-american community has seen is when local activists met with leadership that brought a plan into johnson's office. >> that's correct. >> that ultimately came to voting rights activists. >> that's a model and while there are nuances that have shifted, it's not going to be the president in red, black and green walking through communities saying milk and honey are going flow because i showed up. >> he had to do it. he had to do it. it was his time and he had to go to republicans to help him. >> they're always republican. >> he was a racist and let's just put it out there. i agree with these guys. obama has to remain

scenes between egypt and indeed the americans and what is staggering is that we haven't heard from the obama administration a clear and unequivocal demand for mubarak to step down but rather we hearing talks about fears about the more concerned about the stability. all of egypt and indeed the region whatever that means if it means protecting american u.s. interests with on the respect of the bill if i could just interject. i mean you can lay this at the doorstep of the u.s. but you know at the end of the day the only world leader who's been unequivocal about this is prime minister air the one of turkey the european leaders the american leaders even the latin american leaders east asian south asian leaders all have been all of been silent so i think it's a little misleading to lay this on the doorstep of the american yeah but i mean i don't want to say that all they really want is a guarantee he was a client of the united states and that's probably the difference here i mean there's a lot invested in this relationship here and i think and i want to get into it later but i mean a change in reg

but stressed he has long opposed the federal law. mr. obama has been under fire from gay rights advocates. they say he's been too slow to implement the changes he promised as a candidate. they call this announcement monumental. >> it's all about taking an unjust, discriminatory, and unconstitutional law, off the books. >> reporter: conservatives slam the president. >> there are reasons why traditionally heterosexual couples have been recognized by governments. and it's not a position that same-sex couples have proven to be. >> reporter: this couple is suing the federal government to change that. >> we challenge the statute because it's fundamentally wrong. >> and it directly affects us. >> reporter: even if this law is found unconstitutional, that doesn't make same-sex marriage the law of the land. what it does do is gives federal benefits to same-sex couples where the marriages are legal. rob and peggy? >> thanks, karen. >>> the u.s. has the dubious distinction of coming in last when it comes to paid family leave. the new report from human ri

the youth movement i not open to suggestions from the west. >> to us, obama represents the west, ande was too hesitant in the beginning. he called for an orderly transition. then went mimbar decided to ban any outside interference in the matter, obama said the egyptians should have patience with their government. that is why we do not trust the americans. >> this man is also critical of western powers. for many young egyptians, the u.s. and its allies lost all credibility when they trie to walk the line between supporting the revolution for democracy and standing behind mubarak, a symbol of stability in the region. >> for more, we're joined by dr. nader, a postdoctoral fellow in berlin, and she also has a ph.d. in islamic in middle eastern history. thank you for being with us. first of all, we just heard in that report that many egyptians do not want any interference from the outside, including europe. what can europe do, hower, to help egypt moved in the democratic direction? >> you know, i think egyptians are really taking great pride in the achievements they have done and how it h

people are being quiet about this but the country in the person that should be saying the most is the obama administration and what they have had to say is quite appalling i would say i mean considering the united states loves to talk about democracy but people on the ground are taking their own fate into their own hands after all what we've heard about democracy promotion from the united states. yes washington like many other capitals were taken by surprise when they saw this revolt and how serious it was and that it was the people of egypt with all its diversity ideological religious ages social classes taking this stand to remove not only a dictator but to get rid of. regime so washington was taken by surprise here we have many actors that are concerned about the changes in egypt in washington there are concerns that islamists might take over the israelis are very nervous because of the peace treaty and the consequences of this the egyptian opposition and people have their own this period of a democratic and free state so all these parties need to agree on the formula for manage transiti

on the hunger or a gentleman this is cross talk you've all been around before and you know the rules so obama z. in seattle if i can go to you first as we sit down all of us the constitution in egypt has been suspended parliament has been dissolved a referendum will be held we don't know presumably before elections in six months time is egypt its government its military government and its protesters can they do that in six months because the reason i ask this question is that for all of my life it least we've been told that arab people can't rule themselves they need a dictator they need a strong man so we have a country that has an awesome task ahead of it how do you think it's going to play out. you know it's of course is not going to be easy peter but considering the fact that the egyptian people have thrown such an overthrown and entrenched and rooted rooted a corrupt and oppressive regime in the matter eighteen days i think they are more than capable of holding fair and democratic and transparent elections in the matter of six months i think it's very much possible that the challenge her

quite the opposite president obama went to west point in two thousand and nine and he told the west point cadets he told the united states he told the world the country i'm most interested in building in building is my own so. he really would prefer not to deal with the rest of the world he really would prefer not to deal with egypt at all but the reality is as you mentioned we work very closely with the egyptian military where we work very closely with some egyptian civil society elements united states is a world leader whether we care to admit that it or not so the reality is the united states is going to have influence we do have influence and in egypt the question is how can we exercise that influence to help the egyptian people themselves make the transition to democracy the military is the key institution here we've had egyptian generals egyptian officers train in the u.s. attend some of our military academies for at least the past two decades we're very close relations with them one reason this crisis didn't turn out badly and didn't become a bloodbath in all candor was becau

the obama energy policy. i'm glad to hear my old friend speaker knut gingrich also talk to you about energy. just as obama care will increase the cost of health care, the obama energy policy driving up the cost of energy, and not by accident. and remember, while health care is 18% of the american economy, energy costs affect 100% of our economy. you remember the cap and trade tax? well, in november -- in 2008, before he was elected in november, then senator obama told the san francisco chronical under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily sky rocket. and if senate republicans hadn't killed the cap and trade tax, the electric bills for working americans would have sky rocketed. except there would be even fewer americans working if that happened. american manufacturing would be crushed by obama's energy proposals. but he hasn't given up. his moratorium on the gulf of mexico oil drilling has become a perm torium. more alaskan oil has been placed off limits. the technology hydrauli

the entire world. a short time ago president obama said egypt would never be the same. >> president obama has not always kept pace with a fast- moving crisis, but has thrown his moral authority behind the demonstrators. >> the people of egypt has spoken. egypt will never be the same. by stepping down president mubarak responded to the egyptian people's hunter for change. they have made it clear nothing less than genuine democracy will carry the dead. >> what a difference a few -- carried the day. >> americans and british were worried things would turn ugly. david cameron made a clear the army must hold onto power. >> those who run egypt have a duty to reflect the wishes of the egyptian people. there must be a move to democratic rule. >> people celebrated on the streets. there were far worse in his gaza. many are hoping for an egyptian government less friendly towards israel. >> [unintelligible] >> no celebration-televisa. many are concerned egypt is changing. >> it is not good for israel because it will create a state of uncertainty in the middle east. >>-jordan they celebrate the revelation. he rulers

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there needs to be a little bit vocalization from the obama administration. these are our goals that we have in the united states. hopefully, the new administration is going to have similar ones. i hope that change come soon and that is peaceful. host: if you are listening on c- span radio, this is the number to call. next is michael from new york. republican line. caller: what a thrill it is to see the people to peacefully protest for the basic human rights. we started with tunisia and now we are seeing it in egypt. the people have the lowest their change. the people are the ones who were protesting. you had protesters that were bleeding. because they have peacefully stuck with protesting, and they now have a country that will began to be more about basic human rights. housecoat next is -- house -- host: next is new jersey. caller: i am an american egyptian. the administration should take the opportunity to correct the vision of the administration and the middle east. it is not only going to affect egypt. it will affect the whole region. the administration sh

the country in five libyan cities. throughout monday and tuesday, president obama was silent on the libyan crisis, late on wednesday mr. obama broke his silence with carefully chosen words. >> first, we are doing everything we can to protect american citizens. and it's my highest priority. in a volatile situation like this one, it's imperative the nations and people of the world speak with one voice, and that that has been our focus. the entire world is watching. >> question, what is the reason why president obama has been hesitant to speak out against gaddafi and. >> it was very weak statement, john. but the reason he's been hesitant to speak is there's 6,000 americans, something like that, as of friday still in that country in various places. gov a maniac responsible for the lockerbie massacre. he could attempt reprisals against americans, shooting of americans, and hostage taking and all the rest. but this crisis, john, gaddafi is approaching his end right now, and in my view lot of people are pushing for american intervention. if anybody's going to go into stop a massacre going on or start using poison gas, it ough

we are the party of jefferson, roosevelt, kennedy, clinton, obama. we are the party and held a solis -- hill but solis. we are the party of young americans studying for college degrees and older americans who are training in new fields. we are party of wage workers, entrepreneurs and small-business owners, hard working mothers and fathers all across this country. that is to we are. we are the some of america's strength, and the sun is always greater than the parts. together we are going to win in 2012 and we are going to win the future. thanks very much. [applause] >> we will look now at the weekly addresses. , first obama urges congress to find common ground to avoid a shutdown. center rob portman talks about the need for economic growth and job creation. he also criticizes the president's budget request. this is 10 minutes. >> over the last month, have been traveling the country, talking to americans about how we can out educate, innovate, and out build the rest of the world. doing that were will acquire a government that lives within it means and c

would agree part of that on the one of the things that we're seeing in washington right now with the obama administration and with the bush administration before it is that there is a lot of internal debate here how much we should be supporting democracies and i think that we should be supporting democracy even if it might not necessarily be in the immediate u.s. interest and this is part of the debate that's going on in the white house and state department right now and it's part of what happened in the bush administration as well so no i think just to say that the u.s. automatically suppresses democracy around the world for its own interest of we're looking at egypt right now no it's preposterous this is precisely what is not happening there would be no debate in the white house nor in the state department if the u.s. just automatically sought to deprive suppress democracy or we don't even know what's going on in egypt is actually protests for democracy we don't exactly know why people are on the streets but there are large parts of the bush should rather the obama administration which i

the obama administration is walking a very fine line here. on the one hand, they strongly support the protestors, but on the other hand, the last thing they want is for egypt to descend into chaos. so here is the basic policy position of the obama administration right now. first, the administration is calling for "an orderly transition to a government that respects the rights of the egyptian people." second they are not calling on mubarak to step down. third, the white house is calling for free and fair elections in egypt this fall, elections in which mubarak may or may not be on the ballot. now, harry, it may seem strange that they're calling for a transition to a new kind of government, but at the same time they're saying that mubarak may be able to stay around. well, the white house says they're being very adamant about this, they say they're not going to take sides but on principle they're going to continue to say it's up to the egyptian people, not the united states, to decide who the egyptian leader should be. harry? >> smith: chip reid

has condemned the violence used by security forces in bahrain. in a telephone call, mr. obama warns the stability of the gulf state depended on meaningful political reform. at least 50 protesters were wounded when security forces opened fire on demonstrators. this time as they're trying to occupy pearl square. the u.s. and u.k. warrant their nationals against travel to bahrain. >> bahrain is in crisis. protesters tried to march to the center center -- march to the city center again. this was the response. the police and army are using tear gas and bullets. on the day they buried their dead, there was more bloodshed on the streets. dozens were wounded. some were critically wounded. >> they calls for restraint from britain and the others have fallen on deaf ears. the violence in the small gulf state is far from over. >> she has lost a son. he was buried today. one of six protesters to die this week. he was shot by the police. he was killed for a cause of rooted in this country's division. >> people want to stop discrimination. people want to stop the systematic torture going on

thank you so much for joining us this morning. >>> and as we reported the obama administration is in talks with top egyptian officials about the possibility of mubarak stepping down immediately. u.s. officials say a military-backed interim government is one of several ideas being discussed. the u.s., though, is not looking to impose a solution. they do stress, however, the decision has been made that mubarak must go if the crisis is to be resolved peacefully. meanwhile, america's top military officer, admiral mike mullen said the unrest in the middle east caught the u.s. by surprise. mullen says the u.s. military stands ready to provide any support egypt may need. >>> the u.s. embassy in cairo is bringing in charter flights as needed to evacuate american citizens from egypt. more americans are trying to leave cairo as the anti-american sentiment grows. so far the u.s. has flown out some 2,200 u.s. citizens. >> it got kind of violent yesterday with the demonstrations and our apartment, our hospital, is right next to the river. so we decided it would be a lot safer and our parents were

[laughter] i think there are seven steps to the center for obama. he repeal of obamacare. [applause] let me make a point to my news media friends. 58% of the american people in the most recent poll favor repeal of obamacare. now, 58% ought to be the center. i mean, where's the center if it's not a majority of the americans? i know for some people the center is the faculty club at harvard or "the new york times" editorial board, but that's not factually correct. so if the president would truly like to be part of the american middle, sign the repeal. two, sign tort reform for doctors. he said the other night he'd like to do it, let's let him do it. [applause] the congress should pass it based on texas and other reforms, the strongest possible tort reform bill and let him become president no by saying he didn't actually mean what he said because i if he said he didn't actually mean it, so wind have understand the action of something else he forgot to say because the teleprompter wasn't work withing at that particular moment, and it's not his fault. [lau

the violence against anti- government protesters. mr. obama warned that the stability depended on meaningful political reform. security forces again opened fire on demonstrators. the u.s. and the united kingdom has ended all but the central travel. >> it is in crisis. protesters tried to march to the city center again. this is the response. the police and the army are using teargas and bullets. on the day they bury their dead, there is more bloodshed in the streets. dozens are wounded, some of them critically. the cries of others have fallen on deaf ears. it is far from over. he was buried today, one of six protesters to die this week. he was shot dead by the police. across town, the supporters took to the streets. much of it belongs to the minority. the poor here are overwhelmingly muslim. no surprise that these are the people that make up the both of the protesters. >> it makes a difference. >> it has the potential to shape the rest of the region. not just for the oil, but the strategic military. >> there is a strong religious element to it.

the united states i mean it's clear what the united states wanted of the do and if i'm going back the obama administration the fact that they have administration officials coming out even the president here saying that we're going to see something a part of it well what surprises me is given the contacts that our military has with their military that they did know this because he would not have done this without the military council to get they had only the third meeting in history today first time in peace time when they got together and they're going to be the key because tomorrow it's going to be worse of the square people are going to be more angry the question is what is the military do. in my i think what's going to happen is they're going to child look you didn't go far enough ok you've got to go because we don't want to go after the people what do you think about the military's role thus far because you know on one hand they've been almost neutral in the sense that they haven't been intervening today they gave a statement and yet at the same time we have reports coming out that the

guantanamo, one of the most mature as prisons, is still open despite the obama pledges. but have conditions improved? first, the leading egyptian opposition figure has been talking with christian freezer. he says that no one really knows who is running the country. >> the purpose of the demonstration is obvious, that we have not seen any of the demands of the peaceful revolution that took place a couple of weeks ago with millions of people in the streets being implemented. all that we see is, first, military bulletin's every two days saying that this is what will happen. next week, this is what will happen. then the week after. but what is the road path? how will we do this transition? that is crucial to the future. nobody knows. >> has the army come to talk to you about what they will do? >> absolutely not that is what makes everybody apprehensive. they have not talked with anybody. they have not talked to mr. >> , mr. why, in mr. izzy. -- mr. x, mr. y, and mr. z. the demands go to the heart of every egyptian. we have a radical shift from 30 years under mubarak into a de

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the obama administration has refined its position on the question of whether mubarak should stay or go. the answer now is go but not yet. the white house admitted monday it does not endorse mubarak's immediate resignation. the obama administration is throwing its support behind the newly appointed vice president, but he says egypt isn't ready for democracy. all of this flies in the face of protestors as they've been on the streets now for 15 days. terry mccarthy has the latest. >> reporter: the protesters are still here in the square behind me. in fact, many of them slept out in what is becoming a virtual tent city in what is normally a busy public traffic square. in the battle of wills that is developing, the government has announced a pay rise of 15% for public servants. presumably to win their sympathies. and it has announced the stock market will reopen here next sunday. meanwhile, the uprising that has been largely leaderless has finally found its first hero. wael ghonim. he's a google executive in jail for 12 days for his involvement in coordinating the demonstrations on facebook