we start with the romans, and then we go up through the ottomans. we get to the brits, the french, the germans, the japanese, and we end with the era of american hegemony. so it's a senior seminar, if you will, and it covers a lot of history. >> host: what was your area of expertise on the national security council? >> guest: i focused principally on europe, and you may recall that the first term of the clinton administration was bosnia, the balkans was coming undone. so i basically did everything but the balkans because anyone who touched the balkans disappeared into a black hole. so i spent a lot of time worrying about the european union, trade relation, the enlargement of nato and dealing with the emergence of central and eastern europe from the soviet bloc, trying to make sure that that transition went well. >> host: and this is the coffer of charles kupchan's new book, "no one's world: the west, the rising rest and the coming global turn," published by oxford. thank you, professor kupchan. >> guest: thank you very much. >> is there a nonfiction

it's not that different than where we were in 1600 when you have the holy roman empire, the ottomans, the japanese empire, the chinese empire, but the difference is in the 1600's goes into real zones didn't penetrate. they really interacted with each other. the each ago according to their own. what's happened now we are all smashed together. what we do here, with china does, what happens in india affects us and why this why the next is going to be complicated, because we need to agree on a set of rules in ways that we have never before. >> how we set that year up in the 17th and 18th centuries became? >> i think the story starts with the end of feudalism, and to some extent, europe's strength was its weakness because when the structure began to erode, suddenly use of a town's emerging and they were populated by artisans, blacksmiths, the beginning of what you might call professional people, bankers, and then over time the cities became the vanguard of a commercial revolution and economic activity, debt instruments, banks, little workshops that eventually became laboratories. they were

of military misadventure in afghanistan the same thing happen to the greeks and the romans and the ottomans it happen to the vikings the germans and the french as their resources grew scarce and the influence of each of their empires wane each of those superpowers through itself into an unwinnable war in a last ditch effort to hang on to the reins of global power each reinvented its economy to depend on perpetual war the same way george w. bush did with us in almost tripoli in our defense budget during his eight years and when your economy depends on perpetual war you as a nation are in very very big trouble our first president george washington famously warned us against foreign entanglements in his farewell address then the father of our constitution and our fourth president james madison wrote of all the enemies of true liberty war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises an develops the germ of every other wars the. pair of arms from these perceived debts and taxes and armies and debts and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the fe

little bit intriguing one would think that they probably have some kind of dreams of going back to the ottoman domination and ruling parties have some religious. affiliation or ideological. principle and organisation that. that emanates from a religious belief and they are asserting themselves as a certainly power against. an iranian she hour and it is a mess this is what is being commented they are focusing on how to how to foment the sectarian religious primitive feeling as. we have got to finish but very funny thing briefly your thoughts that this could actually escalate beyond syria and involve iran as well just very briefly. i think. i hope not it is possible but i hope. it is not likely the way things are now if if the regime would manage to put the uprising or controlled substance to be the uprising as long as there are weapons coming from the outside and there is an intention of carrying out terrorist activities like throwing bombs here out there and killing this there will be trouble but it will not be large scale. thank you so much for your thoughts there professor of law at georgeto

time when islam was open to intellectual ideas, but then there was a point where especially when the ottoman turks took over when there was a receding of intellectual fervor in the islamic world, and at this point, especially today, there's kind of a discouragement and be a fear of intellectual inquiry, and that's his basic thesis. >> we've been talking with richard brake of the intercollegiate studies institute. >> up next on booktv, james secure lock, author of "king larry," recounts the life of larry hill blom, cofounder of the shipping company dhl. he disappeared in 1995 in the western pacific. this is just over an hour. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you to book people and c-span, and thank you all for coming to talk about "king larry: the life and ruins of a billionaire genius," which "businessweek" has compared both to an elle more leonard caper and also called a trashy analog to walter ice actson's biography of steve jobs. king larry begins on may 21, 1995, which if you were in the states was about halfway through the o.j. simpson double murder trial. but on saipan it was a

for everyone else who all the way down the line and that's how it's been even since the time of the ottoman empire there's been this ingrained mentality and kind of this idea of patronage in the political system so it's not something new but it certainly was much worse for the hunter so greeks have been many greeks especially be in the private sector obviously been trying to change for a very long period of time however the way that these changes are being enacted now they're not productive it's one thing to cut the public sector and to reform the government but that's not what's happening here what we're seeing here is just just slashing costs as much as possible with no real sense of of creating a sustainable economic environment or one of the biggest complaints from before in terms of you know how greece got here in the first place is a lot of people seem to think it was an option whether or not to fight to pay taxes will this change in the future i mean will there be a better regulatory system for those. kind of you know the wealthy or the one percent of every who got to avoid you know

>> well, i think it is built in, you know, the ott upon, ottoman empire controlled for half a century, 500 years, so .. there is no doubt that there is an element of what you said now of -- >> rose: the fear he may want to restore the ottoman empire? >> to restore the -- >> rose: right. >> at least to really, to at least establish the hegemony or the control or the presence of turkey in the arab world, for sure it is there and very cheer. >> rose: what do you think of his relationship with iran? >> well, the relation with iran is in every country and the engagement with them and i think the strategy is if all doors are closed for iran, at least there is one path to go through turkey so he would like to be -- into so that's a good situation then. >> it is not bad at all. if you want iran -- then you would just -- >> rose: that is the fear of iran, is it not? >> brzezinski uh was on your show and said don't let them capitulate because they will act crazy. >> rose: i am impressed you watch the program so thank you very much. so there is also this. with respect to the region, qatar. what

and there was a point where especially when the ottoman turks took over were there was a kind of receiving of intellectual fervor in the islamic world and that at this point especially today there was kind of a discouragement and fear of intellectual inquiry and that is his basic thesis. >> we've been talking with richard of the intercollegiate studies institute. >> next, jeffrey clement argues the supreme court citizens united decision was flawed and outlines a plan to reverse it. this is about 40 minutes. [applause] >> thank you again, caroline and michael, for your leadership. i get to warm up the crowd for jeff and i merely had the to do it because i'm really proud to be here for the american way with all of you because we have a real battle on our hands. saturday was dhaka to year anniversary of the ghastly citizens united decision, and i hope that it actually was the point at which the court went too far and will provoke a public reaction that we can take advantage of to try to restrict the extraordinary explosion of the corporate power that the court has been stepping with smaller s

the ottoman empire and egypt was powerful. >>shepard: i am sorry to interrupt you i didn't know my mike was on. i guess it looks like western power dozen not have a lot of influence. >>guest: that is hard for us to accept but it is true. we don't want to get involved military, but you will have to let it play out. fortunately, the countries in play other than iran, have weapons of mass destruction. so, at least as bad as it gets it will not involve nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. >>shepard: mike from washington, thank you. enjoy the weekend. huge day on wall street. have you seen the green arrows? more people are finding work. unemployment is down. housing numbers are good. man, wait until you hear what the nasdaq has done. we're in record territory! all the numbers and the reaction from washington and what it means for you and me and winter is appearing somewhere. this is a big snow inform. they have a lot of snow in denver. and a lot of snow around there. and, rome. rome. and plus david tyree, the great escape, reme

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the parliament in 1919, one year after the fall of the ottoman empire was lawrence of arabia was wreaking havoc with the destinies and resources of the state and trying to turn the clock back. mr. president, the protocol of arab observers because we were keen on keeping this issue under the arab roofed. syria, through its full and accurate commitment to the arab plan and protocol between syria and the secretary of arab states, the report of the observer mission already confirmed as paragraph 37, 39 and 73 are very important confirm clearly what was said in the past. it confirmed that there is a political, misleading, deliberate and systematic campaign to distort and fabricate facts. here i refer to paragraph 29, 68 and 69 of the report. the report spoke of the presidents of terrorist groups that used legitimate demands by the syrian people for reformists to destabilize syria and undermine its security to undertake terrorist attacks against the institutions of the states and against civilians and military personnel. paragraph 26, 71 and 75 and paragraph 44 of the report clearly indicates t

about 40 minutes from now when we meet the ottoman. that looks like an ottoman to me that dog, that fluffy thing. >> he must have something special and great conditioner. want a single split end on that dog. >> i was watching "the five" they were doing the dog show for three hours and there was no mess. nobody was picking up and no one was doing it. >> one of the best assignments ever in my career, covering the dog show. it's amazing to go behind the scenes if you've ever seen that movie "best in show" it's a lot like that. very funny. >> let's take you behind the scenes, what's going on in washington, d.c. it sounds like there's a tentative deal on that payroll tax extension. keep in mind the president of the united states has said this is pretty much the number one thing he wants to get accomplished during this election year. extraordinarily, though, when you look at it, he's talking about something that will just affect a portion of the population by 2% for 10 months. all this is for 10 months. >> at a cost of $100 billion and what

president's,, had a parliament in 1919 by that i mean one year after the fall of the ottoman empire while lawrence of arabia was reeking havoc with the destnizz and the resources of these states and was trying to turn the clock back to security six. . . here i refer to paragraph 29.- terrorist groups used to be legitimate trust of the syrian people to undertake terrorist attacks against the institutions of the state and against military personnel. paragraph 44 clearly indicates that the french journalist was killed as a result of more attacks -- mortar attacks fired by the opposition. the event did not move the french diplomacy to indignation. there was an investigation of this event through the participation of the french channel for which the journalist used to work. the secretary general read some paragraphs in his statement. i regret that he selected items from the report and left others. i would only like to read paragraph 26. it says, in certain instances, government forces used force as a reaction to attacks against its personnel. the observers, arab observers, noted that there are

book class about the imperial management where we start with the romans and then go up through the ottomans, the germans, the japanese come and we end with the era of american. so the senior seminar if you will and it's covered a lot of history. spec what was your area of expertise on the national sycophant council? >> principally on europe, and you may recall but the first term of the clinton administration was bosnia, the balkans was coming undone so i basically did everything but the balkans because anyone can touch the balkans disappeared into a black hole. so i spent a lot of time worrying about the european union, trade relations, the enlargement of nato and dealing with the emergence of central and eastern europe from soviet bloc trying to make sure that transition went well. >> and this is the cover of the new book, no one's world, the rest, the wising rest and the coming global turn published by oxford. thank you, professor. >> thank you. >> next on booktv david talks about the history of the soviet union and the millions of victims of communism he says have been forgotten. this is