and if that's so, how do you deal with the conflict of interest? >> p.o.a. would support the organization. i think what people are referring to is there's an organization that has a golf tournament and police officers play in the golf tournament and they -- that organization donates money to a scholarship fund for young people to go to college. when that -- that hasn't happened for a few years. however, when that came about, i actually checked with the city attorney to see if that was a problem. when asked several times, when asked if there's a conflict, they told me no. they told me no. 5 wanted to make sure that it wasn't a problem. police officers want to see young people to go to college. you are invited also to participate and help young people go to college. that's the only thing i can think of. i don't get any money at all. and let me just say something. i've heard this before and i'm not quite sure why. by the time legislation gets to us, the p.o.a. has weighed in, like everybody else, on every single thing. way get a consensus from the p.o.a., from t

the p.o.a. has its rights. they can do that the citizens have their rights. when it comes to making policy, 95% of that policy is agreed upon by the time it gets to us. the aclu, the p.o.a., all the citizens groups, come together and they give us a document and they agree on 95% of the stuff. there may be 5% that the commission has to sort out and say, okay, okay. we hear 3 minutes of public comment from everybody and we make a decision. nobody is in anybody's ear, certainly not in my ear. nobody pulls me aside and has conversations with me. no one. if you don't believe that, you shouldn't appoint me. that's just the truth. nobody does. the fact that they think i'm fair when it comes to that, is a good thing. i think you would want everybody, anybody, i think they think you should be fair. if they don't, then i believe you are not doing a service. they should say, i'm going to walk in and say something, and you will give me a fair hearing. that's the most important thing. i work with kids. i teach them to be fair. if i didn't, i have to live what i teach. >>

highlighted explicitally over and over again in regards to the police department particularly with the p.o.a. and i think because we're dealing with the issue of life and death. it becomes that much more highlighted, so when people say, we have the opportunity for a body camera or we have the opportunity for an additional mechanism with less lethal option for force, so it is highlighted over and over again. so i appreciate supervisor peskin's questions and president cohen's questions because it's an important concept. when it finally gets in front of you as a commissioner, you say, we've created this new policy as it pertains to tasers. now we're ready to go here. and the first thing that the bargaining unit asks for is meet and confer. so here we are in this conversation and it does take additional time. i just want it highlight that that is something that is done in every bargaining unit in the city and county of san francisco. it's not just the police department. so i think that supervisor peskin's question is a good one. it does impact implementation and the timing of it. so when we're d

and i don't know -- i don't know all of the p.o.a. in the union rules when it comes to management, okay? so are civilian folks able to manage officers or is that only in the purview of the sworn officers to manage other sworn officers? >> civilians can manage other sworn officers. it depends on the unit -- >> supervisor cohen: okay. given these units, you have citywide patrols, burglaries, crimes, outreach, and psychiatric emergency, can a civilian manage this type of operation -- these operations? >> i would say not for these operations listed on these sheet. >> supervisor cohen: okay. >> these are all -- these are all operational units. >> supervisor cohen: okay. >> and these are all operational units. now, the psychiatric response team, you know, we're working in partnership with clinicians, but we're not staffed with any clinicians in the police department. we have a commission, but chief of commission, she's educated as a clinician, but she's a police officer. so none of these units, to your question, i don't think would be approp

that the team did a phenomenal job particularly when we are talking about the negotiation with the sf p.o.a. police officers association. we had many closed sessions and discussions around the ideas that we would like to see articulated and i think our negotiating team did a phenomenal job and i wanted to give a chance to give public recognition to those women, i might add that led the negotiation, to where we are today and the functions will be continued for the next couple years, so i just want to say thank you. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor cohen. colleagues could we take those items same house, same call. okay we are missing a supervisor. madam clerk, on those items, please call the roll. >> clerk: item 7-19. yee aye breed aye cohen aye fewer aye kim aye peskin aye ronan aye safai aye sheehy absent stefani aye tang aye >> clerk: there are 10 aye's. >> president breed: those ordinances pass unanimously on the first reading. next item, please. >> clerk: item 20 resolution to approve the grant agreement between the human services agency and the non-profit brilliant corners to p

p.o.a. and preunion labour in the room. they are important stakeholders, but let's note which side we are on. >> thank you mr gonzalez. >> hi, my name is joe. i'm with the associate builders and contractors. thank you for having me here. i just want to say that all we want is for the pla to have a fair and open language and allow for all state approved apprentices as apprentices to work on it the contracts. and allow contractors to pay health and pension benefits into their employee ' owner plans to care for their families. that is all we want. thank you. >> thank you. >> am i starting? my name is tony, i was going to talk about the benefits that i've had. i've been in the union for 35 years. all we are saying is we want all workers that do our type of work, whether union or not to receive the same health benefits, the same pension, same benefits that we all receive. i have been out in the field and a union rep. i have seen workers being told not to sign their sheets back to report only four hours back and do a lot of stuff

it just so happens that ours will be the bay area cancer connection, local 501(c)3. so through. p.o.a., pink patches will be sold to officers that desire. it's not compulsory. it's not mandatory by any stretch of anyone's imagination. if they desire to be part of this great cause in which all of the proceeds will go to this nonprofit i just mentioned. the pink patches are intended to stimulate conversation with the community and to encourage public awareness about the importance of early detection and the ongoing fight against this dreadful disease. just some stats. approximately one in eight women will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in her lifetime. it's the second most common cause of death, and almost 2.5 million breast cancer survivors are alive in the united states today. currently there are 170-plus public service agencies like ours, we hope, from all over this great nation which include law enforcement, fire, emergency medical services, and federal agencies, all participating in this amazing, amazing cause. just to name a few, so down south, los angeles county public