if you threaten the police, you could get yourself killed. i hope that they bring the death penalty back for the serial killers. but if we passed tougher laws, this stuff would stop. as far as handling the mentally ill, the police do not know how to do that. i have been working with mayor knew some -- working with mayor newsom. i have had the police over and i thought that they were on my side. a man goes in and accuses me saying that i was going to bomb that asians and the police took me to the psych ward. the doctors know that i will not do those types of things. i might be the only sane one in san francisco. >> thank you. back >> i am here to represent the civil-rights group and the coalition on homelessness. there was a meeting yesterday between the police chief and the mental health association and it came out that one of the reasons that the sensitivity has stopped is because the police chief pulled the funding. i wanted to say that it is very important that that is reinstated. what came out of the meeting was that the police department

sometimes, it would have to be to the police. supervisor mirkarimi: to speak to that reality, we do not have that? in sentences go? a 24-hour hot line beyond the 911? >> other than the suicide prevention crisis centers, that is true. however, i guess what i'm saying is i think what would be great to sit the behavioral health department was able to institute that. if we had 24/7 mobile crisis rather than mobile crisis only available during the times, frankly when not quite so many people are having prices, and if we had a system that was able to respond to people when they were in crisis without necessarily having to put the weight right on them, i feel very good that the police commission and police department are willing to take a leadership role in this going forward. i just want to say because, i mean, probably everybody knows -- if you are having a hard day, if you are actively psychotic or suicidal, and i have been in this position myself, the police are not necessarily the people you want to see walking down the street. that

police officer. was simply not answering the door and moving. if that is all it takes any police officer will say in my experience most drug dealers destroy the evidence. >> hard we just simply saying they can just walk in whenever they smell marijuana? whenever they think there are drugs on the other side. why do we even bother giving them a warrant? >> i would disagree with you. when determining whether evidence circumstances exist you look of the totality of the circumstances. there would be a myriad of cases in which a court would determine based on this testimony and the noises that were heard with no surrounding circumstancess that evidence circumstances may not have existed. >> what if the defendants here had not flushed the evidence down but had answered the door and said yes? with the police have been able to do anything just because they had smelled marijuana? >> they could have sought a consensual encounter. [talking over each other] >> then the officers would not have been able so basically the police were taking advantage of the stup

it is critical that the police department have that model. what is at risk is the community advisory boards, which i think should serve more as an antenna, transmit and receive the nuances of those communities, there is no way comstat would be able to fulfil in that role -- those boards are at risk of seeming superficial or gimmicky unless they are given the kind of weight, the kind of diversity, and the kind of access and reach to the police department in ways i think we had envisioned. based on feedback we're getting, the time getting on the caps, it is important that they are composed of people the police need to hear from in a way that helps us figure out what is a more fluid communicate system with the police department, our first responders, to neighborhoods and to our expectations that things will be better. i agree with supervisor campos. i think this is worthy of its own hearing of focusing on how cabs are created, how they are support it, crn, dph's work, it is all part of this discussion. >> comstat is just a piece of the puzzle. tw

we want to be able to work closely with the police department. many aspects of our relationship are very positive and very productive. we are happy to be part of the process, and we encourage it to move forward. supervisor mirkarimi: i made reference to this, so it would probably be a great time for you to address it. i want to be careful not to overlap the urgent care model. there have been times in the not too distant past that measures to reduce the beds in the psychiatric unit had come before us, and there had been a spirited discussion about whether that was the right thing to do or not. how does that fold in into this discussion right here? when the terrain of san francisco is that there are quite a few people with mental health needs that are engaged by the police department. the police department needs to take people to our public health system. based just on the population of those needs, those people, what do you say to that? >> we had an opportunity to speak -- to meet extensively with dr. dupont and major cochrane from the memphis poli

not just in the police commission, but across various city departments. the department of public health is committed to dedicating a senior staff member to this effort has decisionmaking authority, will be able to meet authority, will be able to meet with the police

>> in the chief financial officer at the police department. re here to request the reserve funds for the cops hiring recovery program. if you have questions, we would be happy to answer them. supervisor chu: what do you explain what that federal grant program is in where you are in that for members of the public? >> it is a hiring grants to hire 50 officers for the police department. it is from 2009. we have hired 42 officers with 41 remaining in the program. we are going to fill the remaining 19 vacancies. the grant is for all the positions for a total of three years. the police department is committed keeping those people on our police force for a minimum of one year after the grant expires. supervisor chu: ok. thank you very much. why don't we go to our budget analyst report on this item? >> on page four of our report, we point out that pursuant to the terms of this grant, the city is required to retain all 50 police officer positions for least one year after the three- year federal grant funding expires. that would be from july 1, 2012 unti

even the police department can start something new by talking to the experts. many police departments in the country have done so. even in israel they have done so. so it would be wise also to to ask people to con sult. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. >> i still don't fully understand how c.i.t. works. what i am happy to see in there rezz is i will have an opportunity to understand and learn how c.i.t. works. what's good in this resolution is that the community remains involved with the development of the crisis intervention model. there efforts have been extremely necessary. if we're going to use a society using policing, this is a good first step. all of you, but especially commissioners -- i hope that this kind of more honest community-minded process, hopefully with a longer timeline that provides the time we need for consensus building will set the tone for the kind of

i'm the director of the police officers association. i appreciate the opportunity to talk to your body tonight. this is a very important topic we're discussing. it affects everybody. it is a community-wide concern. certainly i believe that the san francisco police officers are probably some of the finest trained officers in the country when it comes to dealing individual citizens that are in mental health crisis. we are the first responders. we probably deal with just as many individuals with mental health crises as anybody else in the field. we believe our training is second to none. it is a growing crisis. and a lot of times, the officers are frustrated, as the whole system becomes bogged down with what can we do. certainly, we want to put our best foot forward and provide not only the community the safety that they want, but the victims that are in crisis, to get some type of refuge so that they know that there is avenues of help out there. and to consistently follow-up with these cases so that we don't have a tremendous recidivism ra

the police show up, beat on them. they get put in an ambulance. quite often they are harmed in the ambulance, and they go to psyche emergency and they get harmed again. what i see is there are so many directions that trauma is introduced into these people's lives, that you can't expect them to not be mentally ill. way before the police get there, we need to did decide how we are going to reduce the trauma in the people's lives. i also see the police focusing on things that -- you know, the crackdown on the muni. $2 tickets. we have a whole force of people. let's go out and get some violent criminals. i don't know. it is really hard to say what all the answers are. i wish i had read the suggestions. it sounds very intriguing. definitely, train the officers. i don't know. is this a perfect model? i don't know. hopefully it will lead us somewhere with the nuts and bolts with some good ideas that could de-escalate the situation. that's all i got for tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker? >> hi. i'm jane goldman. i've been a psychiatric nurs

i represented people in oakland before the police review board. we had some terminology, some of us who did cases. street justice is when a police officer, without taking somebody through the system, punishes the person physically or verbally or somehow. i am worried, because a significant number of san francisco police officers, i think, do that sort of thing. the other thing is that in a lot of our cases, where we started winning -- i read in the newspaper we are going to be trained. what i found out when i do cases is once we start winning, the defense goes, "the officer was inadequately trained." it always happens that way. we have had many things we could accomplish in san francisco, and we have not. how to do with the mentally ill. 10 to 15 years, there has been training available in northern california, but the police department says we have not got it done yet. how about the backlog of misconduct cases? how about the backlog of misconduct cases the experts -- cases? i'll give you a quote. there is a poster on the wall at the hall of justice

we intend to work with the police on that. prosecutions might have a good deterrent effect on the rest of the industry. >> makes sense. çis there any effort to educate folks about the changes? >> we did bring this through the taxi advisory council and the mta board of directors. çgenerally speaking, we have a communicative relationship with the taxi industry. a few of them are here to speak about it. >> i think it makes sense to do that, but it also makes sense for us to disseminate the information about what the new rules are, city-wide, so that the people that could be impacted -- doormen, for example -- that there are severe penalties that would be in place. >> we have frequent contact with çthe hotel council, so we have pretty good communication channels, and we can certainly utilize that channel to get the information out. >> i do not have a problem around the changes of these vehicles. the question was more with the first piece of the changes that had to do with the actual twoin owing of unauthorized vehicles, allowin

the police deáartment used to provide the taxi detail for this kind of enforcement.t model has changed. some of the work order money is coming back to our agency. with that money, i will be hiring two more investigators. and if the investigators pay for themselves, two more. >> so the savings on the work order that would be returned to the police department is what? >> i believe $375,000 coming back to the sfmta from the police department work order. ç>> does this mean the police will continue or discontinue to also assist in trying to curtail an arrest this problem? >> we continue to assist the their enforcement and assistance is also required as well for any criminal enforcement. that is their jurisdiction entirely. but they still have, i think, a quarter of a million dollars in their work order to fund that activity. it is just that the work order money used to fund salaries at the police department for the taxi detail is move over to the agency so that the same work could be performed by our civilian administrative staff. >> supervisor campos. >>ç just a couple

of the san francisco police commission. we have line item number5 which is discussion and possible action to adopt the plan for the responses to the incidents involving individuals with mental health needs. we are taking this out of order. we are taking public comment. we have a very heavy agenda including some closed session matters involving disciplinary matters. the commission has to meet to review some resmae is it. we have a very busy agenda. without further ado, i would like to comment about line item 5. >> lie down 5 is a discussion and possible action to adopt a plan for police department response to incidents involving individuals with mental health needs. -- line item 5 is a discussion and possible action. >> the commission felt strongly that the number of mental health issues at the city is faced with been that our officers have to deal with on a daily basis is disproportionate to other cities. on this has caused us all great concern. you need to only walk down a few blocks in san francisco and see people talking

the public can know they can go to the police department website for the locations of these forums. secretary reilly: we can do that. it is not a problem. >> to add a little bit of information, we went with posting on police executive research web site, california chief of police association, major cities chiefs, and international association of chiefs of police. it is up there. we also did an initial blast to internal people who may be interested. >> is there any public comment on line items two a, b, or c? >> good evening, commissioners. on behalf of service employees international union, i am representing police department employees. this discussion has been a perfect segue to what i wanted to discuss this evening. that is the characteristic we believe you should be looking at in the chief of police. i am sure your conversation for information on the memphis model is important to support and the community. we believe he should be looking for a chief who is community- based. we also think one needs to believe in alternatives to incarceration, who is understanding in the issues of t

he left just before the police moved in. one hour ago the police started tagging him. what can you tell us? >> the attack is around 3:00. i am at the hospital. we have two confirmed deaths. one older person is 65. another young person was not identified until a half hour ago. there is a third person in critical condition but he was riddled with bullets. apparently from a close range. they have been bleeding. i saw the elder man being resuscitated but without success. there are lots of injured people. there were ambulances arriving here then going back. a lot of people are probably still in the tents. they attack people sleeping. you cannot attack people sleeping -- you cannot attack people while sleeping. there is a much more civilized way of doing this without killing people. >> when you left, did you have any idea that this would happen. >> when i left we were debating when will the police attack us? maybe they would give us one day to three days. maybe when the media plays they will start attack us apparently these people do not care for any -- their reputation anymo

i am the secretary of the police commission. on behalf of the commission, i want to welcome everyone to the san francisco 2010 medal of valor ceremony. please stand and join us for the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. thank you. mayor newsom was unfortunately unable to attend this evening. he sent his congratulations to the medal of valor recipients. we are joined by commissioner president thomas does it go, dr. joe marshall, commissioner james slaughter, commissioner petra dejesus. we are also joined by chief of police george gascoign. also with us are the it assistant chief. this isn't she said of the operation pirro. assistant chief denise schmitt. deputy chief john murphy, enforcement and security at the mta. commander sandra tong of the airport bureau. commander james dudley of the airport operations bureau. commander daniel mahoney, chief of the operations staff. co

i am worried that the police will use tasers on domestic violence survivors. the lgbt community has been highly affected by budget cuts in services. new leaf services, which was a 25-year-old organization serving thousands of books dealing with substance abuse issues, closed this year. it closed. we have no place to refer lgbt people that is really, but -- really competent to deal with lgbt issues. david campos was able to -- i do not even know. thank goodness he did what he did. we're going to be spending money on tasers? let's put the community as a priority rather than tasers. thank you. [applause] >> good evening. my name is richard terry kotch. i am on the executive board of the national lawyers guild. we signed on to community opposition to tasers in san francisco. i urge you to vote no. tasers can and do turn non-legal force situations into deadly force situations, especially for mentally ill people, who often react differently to many things, including physical events, such as being tasered. some mentally ill may not be stopped by a taser, increasing th

i'm a member of the san francisco police commission. i am here to report on what the commission did last week, which is unanimously adopt a resolution that deals with mental health crisis calls. i am happy to explain that resolution to you. i also have hard copies i would like to give to you. the police commission formed a subcommittee over the past couple of months as a result of a retreat we had where we voted on our priorities. our number-one priority was developing a better plan to respond to mental health crisis calls. the subcommittee is made up of commissioner jim hammer, president thomas moser go, and myself. we met with the police department, the office of citizen complaints, and with a number of mental health stakeholders in the community to talk about the different models we can adopt to deal with mental health crisis calls, to respond effectively and safely as possible. what we came up with, after the department and occ visited memphis and los angeles is something called the memphis model. i will explain what that is, and i a

the balance. mario andresol, haiti's police chief. on the day of the earthquake, he narrowly escaped death as his headquarters collapsed. nine months later, a mob has stormed a police station and hacked a policeman to death. >> ( translated ): it's chaos right now. there's a state of fear, a psychosis. because the escapees are robbing banks, murdering, kidnapping, it has created a psychosis. >> narrator: backed by un forces, andresol played a key role in the bloody military onslaught that, three years ago, subdued the gangs and put many of their leaders in jail. >> ( translated ): before the earthquake, we didn't have so many problems because all those prisoners and kidnappers were behind bars. that just proves we arrested the right people. there was calm. people felt safe on the streets. now we have to start again. >> narrator: the gangsters who escaped from the national penitentiary discovered new territory to conquer: improvised camps built by the survivors of the earthquake wherever they found space. >> sorry to cry. >> narrator: t

this is within the police department. a reference of the program such as myself, i would say coordinator. i was charged with my chief to make this happen. under his authority, i said, okay, this is a program that i will have to make work within our community and the relationships that will have to be made. those kinds of relationships brought this program to the forefront of the community. other nurturing takes place within the concept of mental health. one of the remarkable things about memphis is the low-cost. that is a big concern. how much does this cost? memphis has been in existence since 1988 and we have had multiple training sessions. probably three a year. those transitions, we have not paid specifically to the training of the mental-health community. why did they do that? they do that because of the community and as part of the nurturing process of their giving towards the city and as -- and to our officers specifically. there is other nurturing that goes on. we mentioned to the efficacy. many times they have awa

it is about the police officers and the san francisco police department who are asking you for another option. you will still hold them accountable. they're saying, i don't want to use deadly force. this is not a circumstance i want to use my gun. give me an alternative. commissioner dejesus: that is the problem. after we met, tasered international is saying incapacitation involves risks that a person may get hurt or die. they say there is a risk of the application having a negative affect on a person's heart rate or rhythm. i guess my concern is perpetuating a fallacy, if they use a taser, the person will be safe. the taser is the only weapon that used as design can kill. commissioner dejesus: commissioner, could you -- >> could you say that again? commissioner dejesus: using it as designed, it is a weapon, used in the way it can be used, it can cause death. >> it can. it is not designed to kill anyone. commissioner dejesus: i don't want our officers thinking they will tase the person and they will live. if used the way designed, it can cause death. it would be more of a shock to an o

a situation with the police with the militia being transformed into police and big reform going on and the the russian president is very much into this idea of changing changing the way the force works well it was in the beginning of your career if i. not mistaken you were suing the police and you made your name as a lawyer by suing the police for for misusing the police force so did you have something to offer or did you have something to to share with the russians concerning the reform of the police force was not my own experience because we were certain being against the apartheid police who use torture in one of the cases they detained and tortured my husband and that's when we brought court action. here i welcome that the initiative is coming at the highest level from the president on the form of and so that i want to watch closely and be very supportive. i think that. his initiative is very good to address the form of the judiciary and the police and the military and many other aspects. hoping that that will be followed through and implemented well the russian public isn't very h

at the police station and. the informant was in escobar as paid using the money to rent an apartment in this building just behind the barracks and. soon as this policeman knew an operation was being organized he used to run home. using a radio code cool and. left on a school and talk code and say things like tell some. as they used to. live there on their way making straight for you. so when we were heading up towards the target would sometimes see people's about getting past going the other way. that the traitor is eliminated and the manhunt can resume unimpeded. the no i took out target is a guy called el chapo what into our information he's hiding in this area. or was the terrorists' hands on terrorists guy who plays ball the ball. kind of person i want to start going to a couple of minutes here on this photo album with our various operations and suspects and i think this is the guy we want to catch tonight. as a complete change of tactics the idea is to isolate escobar by rounding up his key men one by one m