the police? >> yea, the police? >> we've got two strikes: black and male. got to do is a miss a blinker and we're stressed out in the middle of the street. >> that's what people say - two strikes? >> you make a face at a cop, strike 3 you're out. you're going to jail for something. >> it's not just a "perception" of unfair treatment >> they've got no connection to them curturally, other than as police officers patrolling the area, and enforcing the law. >> adolphus pruitt is head of the local naacp chapter which filed a federal civil rights complaint against the st louis county police for disproportionately targeting blacks. >> a young black kid can live in an urban area and when he leaves his house and he's going for a walk, or he's going to work, he's going to school, he's subjected to be stopped by the police, he's subjected to be questioned, he's subjected to have to show identification, he's subjected to be run through the system to see if he has any oustanding warrants. and in some cases it happens for no reason at all. >> even if they avoid the polic

the whole pocket is full of smoke. police have gas masks and they are in riot gear, a lot of people attempting to drive through the pocket, sitting on vehicles. i walked past a guy with a mask is a baseball bat. it's a hostile environment. doesn't look like it's letting up at all. >> we are looking up from above. looks like traffic is stopped in the street. robert, what else have you seen, you have been in different locations. >> we were at a peaceful location. earlier in front of the justice hall, in clayton where the grand jury made the announcement this evening. you could hear a pin drop. there was absolutely nothing happening outside there. and to come over here, which we arrived at, a completely different scene. took us a while to get into the picture. many of the streets are blocked. we are trying to get a picture momentarily. we should have something in the next few minutes. we are up. if you want to, what i can do is put a microphone out, we'll get the live for you in a second. >> i'll let you do that. i'll continue m

these are the police in their tactical gear here right in front of the ferguson police department. we saw a big number of people earlier. and again, as van jones pointed out, as chris cuomo pointed out, a much smaller crowd now. and many of them are bloggers, live streamers who are really sort of in a standoff, a confrontation with police. a reorganization of protesters. and as chris said, a reorganization of police as well. >> they're moving because they needed to get fire equipment out because you had at least one police cruiser on fire and there was a storm front on fire at the opposite end of the street at the fire station right now. so they need to reconfigure just to allow out the emergency vehicles. and you know, one of the problems here is they were supposed to have different rings of control here tonight. they had police ready here in front of the police, the municipal building, and the fire department. they also had national guard and support troops in an outer perimeter to help control as people fell back if there were trouble. it doesn't seem to work -- >> how surreal i

, to police the demonstrators. demonstrators essentially policing themselves. they stopped the crowd from moving forward. then we heard the gunshots. that was down the street here where we are now. that's where the crowd broke off, ran across this police car that you see here, what's left of it. they held them right over here, right behind the police car. then when they started throwing more rocks and bottles at the police, at this point that's when the police moved the crowd back a little bit. the crowd started to disperse just a little bit. so you can see obviously a lot of emotion. a lot of anger out here as well. a lot of the peaceful demonstrators we saw up the street here decided to leave at one point just because they felt as though it was getting so tense. it is tense. people have been yelling at us here. but we're trying to do our best to report but also keeping a safe distance from some of the melee that's happening right here at our location. >> and jason, we're about a minute away from president obama ma

right now, the police are -- owing in the protesters the police are trying to dissipate the crowd. we have to move. the police are moving us. >> ok. the police are moving the reporters along and this is the last stand for occupy hong kong out stop they are clearing the students and protesters from the admiralty area. road outside of the chief executive office. right now, she is on the bridge downhis is really coming scufflesntations and between the police and protesters. our reporter is in the thick of things. what else can you tell us? police are at the there was offices and a lot of commotion. was a bit of a police line at the entrance. the commotion broke out. there is a little bit of a standoff. [indiscernible] the protesters are -- severale [indiscernible] people.e the police are pushing protesters on that side. at the moment, we cannot go anywhere. can see, from live pictures, the police are clearing the area inch by inch. you see the tents. andtents closer to the road the chief executive office has been cleared. people have been removed and the police are out with batons and

the police department? >> it depends on the people. some people say they hate us and don't want us here. >> officer darrell calhoun because assigned here fresh from the academy. >> have you ever been afraid on the job? >> yes. there are times where you are alone and you don't know what to do sometimes. you are out on the street in the middle of the night when all of the bad things can happen. when all of the bad things tend to happen. it is natural to have some type of fear. >> a rookie cop was shot by a suspect in bed-sty a month ago. >> most dangerous hours in the most dangerous neighborhoods. why would you want that job? >> because it's about giving to the community. i want people to know that they are safe. >> i have been talking to a handful of young guys who feel like they get stopped over and over again and they are going back and forth to the gym or school. >> guys who say that to me, they may say that because i'm stopping them. i'm stopping the right people, but they are criminals because of their a

and when went already, the police presents on the groubd to help us. and i also want more cops for the sfpd will know us, and i learn a lot and i go to a lot of meeting but i have never been to a meeting like this. i am so deeply sad, i see, i have always had so much respect for the police and i have a different experience, you guys have to come and know us. we are a deeply angry community and a lot of the people look like me, and mostly the people that look like me are angry and would yell at you. and other people that don't look like me are twice as angry and will not yell at you and are afraid of you. >> we need your help. >> thank you. >> hi, i am born and raised in the mission and i look kind of like her and i have never got hassled by the cops at all. and so it makes sense that she is asking for more cops to me. but any way, so i am here in solidary with the families of people who have been killed by the police. and a lot of people today we had to sit through this really revolting thing at the beginning of this meeting where all of the cops were

the police are moving carefully. they are heavily equipped but moving carefully and slowly in through the crowd at this point. to simply get the crowd away from that car. they all, that we can see on camera, have their firearms, their rifles aimed down, aimed down toward the street. they are not aiming weapons, as far as we can tell from this camera angle at the crowd, as we saw in august and even situations like this. we, we have, we have msnbc's craig melvin by phone who's right there in the thick of that, craig, what are you seeing? craig melvin, it's lawrence o'donnell, can you hear me on your phone? craig? craig melvin? >> reporter: yeah. >> it's lawrence o'donnell. you're on the air with us, what are you seeing in the crowd there? >> reporter: we actually left the crowd. me and my team. before that, let me catch my breath. before that, there were, maybe 30, 45 minutes, there were maybe a dozen or so bottles tossed at officers, these were officers in front of the ferguson police department. roughly 20, 25 of them

the police units are there, if you look at the units, they are coming in, the police retreated. it appears that, you know, more units are headed over to this pocket. this, unfortunately was the epicentre of the looting and violence back in august here we go again times 20. this pocket near where michael brown was shot and killed - it's on fire and gunshots have been going on to the past 45 minutes. just out of precaution, where we sandwich ourselves in between in case there is fire and hit the deck. >> the bizarre thing it to watch the pictures and see cars driving by, and people walking down the street. can you tell us what they are telling you? >> well, the protesters are driving by and shouting - actually, let me back that up. i shouldn't call them protesters at this point. the people protesting were trying to be peaceful. these are hooligans, to be candid and frank. they are driving by, shouting profanities and not making sense for the cause here. it's not helping the situation. michael brown's parents called for peace, the president of the united states called for peace. att

the topic is the police. nd keyshan have gotten to know each other through poetry circles. >> i'm pretty sure we heard of bill bratton, the new police commissioner. he has a theory called community policing. tonight's topic, who polices this community? >> nypd. >> reporter: the poetry boils with resentment. >> no identity. they say color ain't an issue but how can it not be when innocence has what the oppressor believes? >> this is not a poem. this is a war cry for every poor child by men who were found innocent in court. >> reporter: luis's poetry speaks to the lingering mistrust he feels toward the police. >> authorities scare us to putting bars on our windows, more like our cribs, our cradles to the grave. my people, i hope you listening. it's time to pick up the pen, take this movement out of the room. i promise you can make it. let's go. okay, get home safe. we're here for each other. >> reporter: after the open mic, luis and his family pack up. there's concern about how his younger brother, elvin, will g

the police officer was in fear. there is also this element of a 911 call where the issue of it being a toy was raised, and they wanted to play that in its entirety to let people judge for themselves and explain the situation the pest they could. >> and kristen, just to take us back to ferguback to ferguson stay, we heard from the police officer and from the family. what is the mood in ferguson been like today. >> i can't hear you. >> we seem to have lost connection there in ferguson. sorry about that. we'll head back a little bit later on. >> now congolese doctor who has been horrorred for his work helping rape victims has been called on the world to end sexual violence. the doctor had been awarded the prestigious prize for freedom of thought. he has treated more than 30,000 victims of mass rape in the democratic of congo. he asks had that they could mo more. >> we need to ask this question, and recognize the suffering of women. >> dr. mukwege is responsible for opening a special hospital to treat victims of sexual a

again, (inaudible) foundation is not against the police. okay? they are people that we respect in the department who have a productive and relationship with the officers for justice. but we want transparency and accountability? okay? stop lying, and manipulating the public and stop insulting and adding insult to injury for those grieving families. answers, please. yeah, thank you. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> mr. miller? >> good evening, commission. i want to echo what my partner (inaudible) said and we stand here in solidary and memory of those lost to police violence to alex nato and we stand in solidary with evans. and killed by san francisco police on october 7th, with... and i received information just on the way over to this meeting from a new victim, so with antonio we will find out who his name was, he was beaten and kicked in the head by the san francisco police and so just when you don't see us, we are constantly working because the sfpd is constantly beating people and most of all i am here with the mother of (inaudible) who was on ton

they try to push the police away using only their torsos. although the faces of some students are sprayed, none are seriously wounded. police and protesters clash around the square and in nearby streets. soon the area is completely taken over by students. exhausted, many of the youngsters lie down. the sun rises as students and police continue to stand off against each other. in the early morning, the overpass quickly fills with reporters and citizens who have heard about the news. protesters use umbrellas and plastic food wrap to protect themselves foreign policy pepper spr spray. thus the rally is later named the umbrella revolution. as students wake up, small clashes with police resume. not knowing what to expect, some young protesters are looking concern concerned. just after noon, we hear that all students have left the squa square. throughout the night, the police had apparently spoken to each student individually. >> the student sit-in was held before the october 1st rally proposed by benny ting. when he hears of the situation, he rush

department is the finest police department in the whole united states. i have had the opportunity of working with the police department, in the lake view, for over 40 years. and we have accomplished so many things together. closing down crack houses, and taking back our park, and building a school. and everything else that we have been partners. and i want to say that there is two sides to every story. my brother-in-law with the san francisco police officer and he was shot and killed by a criminal. so, i understand the things that have to happen and why they happen and there is extensive reasons for the way things go down sometimes that we have to look beyond. my sister was left a widow and her three children have no father and he will never know his grandchildren and he was the most wonderful father on this planet and so my heart goes out to the familis that have lost their loved ones, and i tell you that it happens on both sides of the spectrum. so please, understand... >> respect everyone. >> why i have testified many times that this police department

protesters confronting authorities around the police headquarters. we saw two people being arrested. however, so far at least, no large scale violence, certainly not what we saw last night. in that respect a lot has changed in the 24 hours since the grand jury came down, the death of michael brown and parts erupted in violence. tonight a national guard presence, 2,200 troops. that's up from 700 last night. missouri's governor ordered them into action. they're out in force including around the police department in ferguson. again, some have been confronting protesters. however, it seems different in tone and tenor than last night's outpouring of rage. protesters out in force around the country as well. students if boston marching on police headquarters and towards the roxbury neighborhood. the marchers gathering around the local police station, marches in new york, atlanta. we have seen more than 100 locations in all. in canada as well. i want to begin with chris cuomo at police headquarters in ferguson which is where we saw he so much of the violence

the police were standing in full riot gear and in the course of probably ten minutes or so a gation mask was thrown at police -- gas mask was thrown at police, bottle of water thrown at police but police held steadfast behind their lines. then somebody set off a fire work and that got people pretty excited. i'm not entirely sure what happened. i didn't smell any tear gas, we had an e-mail to say that's what it was, there was certainly a very, very loud explosion. i think you can see from our camera that the police appear to be positioning themselves to make some kind of maneuver. at the moment they are behind their barrier which is protecting the police headquarters, and the crowd is significantly smaller than it was at the time of the announcement because most people have marched off into ferguson and they are going down to pay their respects to michael brown at the memorial where he died. however i think i can say with reasonable confidence that things are calming down again now. antonio. >> that seems to be the case from the aerial pictures we are showing, the crowd does seem to be di

conference, and for the first time, i believe, ever, a san francisco police officer won the international association chief of police officer of the year for valor. and which is like, huge. and so, it was officer cunning ham for his actions at asiana and the other officers that were nominated were the competition was unbelievable and so i know that deputy chief smith and tomioco were there and they were tried to handicap if he stood a chance hearing the other stories but the trophy is beautiful, and so, i would ask and i will let the commission and the president know if perhaps it will be appropriate to bring him to the commission with his award so that he could be recognized and everybody at home can see i mean that it is unbelievable, honor when you think of, these are thousands of police departments and officers, from all over the world. and orlando florida, and we took home the prize it was pretty cool. >> wow. >> chief, i am wondering that this may be out of prod protocol, so we got the medal of valor next week and is it possible to maybe. >> yeah. >> highlight it next week? >> yeah,

the city of ferguson police department, you can see you've got members of the st. louis county police there in front. then in the back you've got members of the national guard standing by as well. they have not asked the smaller crowd to disperse. so far the demonstration has been peaceful.. they have not asked this crowd to disperse. they have only asked them to move out of the street, move on to the seahawk. at this point it's just a standoff between dmon stray tors in here and law enforcement out there. >> stephanie elam is here in ferguson as well. not exactly sure where stephanie is in that crowd. but what are you seeing? >> actually, don, if you're watching our coverage last night, you know that this is where we saw so much mayhem and chaos. right behind me, you see the ferguson market and liquor here. and this is where i was standing over by the mcdonald's last night for about a good 30 minutes where there was no law enforcement. very different scene tonight. you've got the national guard out here. they're armed. the street is blocked off. no one is allowed t

the streets of ferguson to erupt. peaceful demonstrations turned ugly. police fired tear gas into the crowds as they clashed with protesters. these were the scenes everyone was dreading, but also anticipating. it came after the grand jury decided not to press charges after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager, michael brown. >> they determined that no probable cause exists to file any charge against officer wilson and return a no true bill on each of the five indictments. the physical and scientific evidence examined by the grand jury combined with the witness statements supported and substantiated by that physical evidence tells the accurate and tragic story of what happened. >> reporter: in august, 18-year-old michael brown died after being shot at 12 times. these newly-released pictures show darren wilson, the officer who pulled the trigger, with injuries to his face. the grand jury agreed he had acted in self-defense. many protesters say they weren't surprised by the outcome because they didn't trust the grand jury in the same way that many peopl

and the police had until friday to produce him in court. and that put the pressure on the authorities to finally produce him. one of the things, the authorities said that these charges were completely made up and they were made by his rivals, trying to defame him. and they said that the police were working for these rivals. and they were trouble to get him a medical clear so he could miss court. but with all of the pressure in the court and on the police, the police finally said that enough is enough, and they stormed the compound. >> interesting story, and intriguing story. thank you for joining us live from new delhi. thank you. >>> ukraine's prime minister has held out with negotiations with russian separatists. he called on kiev to open a line of dialogue with the rebels. >> we will not hold direct negotiations with russian terrorists. i translate into russian, and we will not hold direct negotiations with mercenaries. if you want peace, abide by the minsk deal. in order to have peace, we need a deal that's accessible to the whole world.

the police searched for evidence. wase don't know if anything taken, but we need to interview the victims when they are able to be interviewed. >> other business owner say this is the second robbery of month,'s in less than a on the same day. officers say they may have intimate knowledge of this operation. >> they got robbed and they took the money. >> there is a surveillance camera. it was functioning, that will lend itself to the investigation and help track down the suspects. at last report, the man and woman who were both shot are stable and expected to survive. stephen tschida, abc 7 news. you.ephen, thank reports of sexual violence on college campuses are on the rise according to the education department survey, and this is especially at the university of virginia and maryland. there were 19 reports of forcible sex at the university of maryland, up from nine in 2012. uva had a seven reports last year, up from 11. officials say the uptake and reports might be from students stepping forward to get help following a

yes, the prosecutor works with the police. no, the folks who are patrolling don't control events. the prosecutor alerts them of what he's doing and his timing. what bob mcculloch did here, whether he meant to or not, has acted to create events in such a way that there's a lot of criticism, much of it deserved of the violence and the arson and crimes that were committed last night. yet, there's a question here in the management of this justice whether that deliberately or not exacerbated events and that's the second trauma. because these events will continue. if folks want to protest, that may still happen. i'm not sure he did the police a favor today. >> thank you all for joining us here. protesters and demonstrators want something for the death of michael brown. the question is, will they get anything? that's up next. this is "hardball," the place for politics. right now, you can get a single line with 3 gigs for $65 a month. 3 gigs ... is that a lot? that's about ... 100 app downloads, 45 hours of streaming music, and 6 hours

the police have moved back to the sidewalk in front of the fire department and the police station. the bad news is, is there's a different element starting to move in now, a little louder more provocative. >> reporter: we're told that the group that we're seeing coming this way have looted places and broken windows and some of the businesses along south florissant in that direction. again, what you're looking at now, that is, on your screen, that is the public storage. and that is just across the street on canfield, unfortunately, where michael brown lost his life. and anderson, that's where we did our live shots. that's where we live when you were here. all of those businesses along west florissant. some of them liquor stores, some convenience stores, that's a public storage. on the other side is a barbecue, a beauty supply place. and it's just a row of businesses along west florissant, sadly, up in flames now. where that is on west florissant, you're seeing flames there. but where we are mostly what you're seeing is busted out windows and that kind of thing. >> the main door of th

>>is there anyone from the police that could speak to that, officer? >> as far as the legislation, i don't remember the feet, and it is anything in a nightclub within a certain amount of feet and it can regulate a safety plan, such as lighting that we have increased the lighting and we had them install the security cameras and they have a security guard there as well and i will check for sure and i believe that there is a security guard there, and on the main nights, and either thursday or friday and the saturday nights and as i said i will check on that one for sure. >> thank you. >> does the security guard help out? >> there is a garage next door, but we don't receive too many complaints regarding that particular place, it is mainly across the street when there have been issues because it is easier to flow from a sidewalk into the street and into a open parking lot, rather than a garage where you have to go up a floor or two. >> do you think that it is the problems is the garage related or is it because the people in the parking lot. >> i mean, and...

integrating ourselves in the community policing community itself into the every level not just getting into squad cars, and policing over violent crime, but being part of the community in good things . all of the things have to be done and a lot more to try to break down the moments of distrust that we're seeing. >> alexis mcgill johnson, are there it places that have done that? are there places that are better where they've broken the code, cut that knot. >> i think there are places that have done that when you look at changes in policing in seattle and portland, i think those are two examples in denver where major cities, where the leadership and the police department have come together along with researchers to try to figure out how they can best build community policing and identity challenges with bias, not just the explicit bias that is talked about, and there are ways to build that work and identify better protocol to help our communities come together. but it does require the leadership from the top down from the police chief and the superintendents down to help manage that sit

clearly the police mean business tonight. last night they were more laid back, allowing things to happen. the thing is when you demet an environment like that, and close proximity, where there were buildings, and that many groups of demonstrators going in and tactical units, shots fired, and tear gas deployed, it's a top scenario for everyone in there. clearly very dangerous. i can only hope everyone in that pocket came out okay because it was not call. >> obviously no way to know the source of the gun fire. one question before going to the break. approximately - can you discern rough count how many protests out there, is it the same as you witness last night. >> where i was last night, i counted about 100, there were not that many at that point. they were dangerous clearly in what they were doing. to my count, if i had to take a crowd guesstimate, i would say 200-300 in this four or five block stretch to where the incident happened that we were involved with. >> thank you. we will check back in later. robert ray reporting liv

coming up, the taliban gets inside kabul's police headquarters, as a bomber targets the chief of police. >>> two americans freed by north korea after the intervention of a top intelligence official. >>> and germany marks 25 years since the fall of the berlin wall >>> a new government has been sworn in in yemen, created as a u.n. brokered peace deal after houthis captured the capital. yemen says the new government will hold together but the houthis and the ruling people's congress reject the administration. hashem ahelbarra has more from sanaa >>> as far as the prime minister is concerned, he's confident that yemen can move forward to tackle the problem it's facing. when asked about how they can move forward with two political factions, houthis and the president rejecting the deal. they say that these people have signed a deal with the united nations preps in november 1st, giving the president mandate to choose members of this government. as far as he's concerned it's a document. for what he says. i'm open to dialogue. i'm not going to take into account the concerns. listen to what the p

police are? >> four shots fired. we've got four buildings on fire. shots fired in the direction of police. this is not going well. >> from pictures it doesn't appear they know where shots are coming from. >> no. there is at least two handguns involved thchl is the third time we've heard shots. this more than in the past. now we've got eights probably looking for the source of that. firefighters and now, helicopters looking for the source. >> they've lit up the sky. they're doing that i guess with the flood lights. >> that is right. about an hour ago filled with angry protestors and cars and looting started then, fire started and then, shots started. >> so there is someone shooting somewhere, steve. do we know where the protestors went? >> no and we saw protestors out in august but it's in mid-30s now you have to wonder after looting is done and fires are started now shots have started. that is certainly can thin out a crowd. >> we're seeing a lot of shots over about 800 shots. >> police are returning fire. >> there is fire coming from two directions. another helicopter overhead we're going

why the police officers are assigned in such large numbers to the black community. it's because blacks commit murder eight times more per capita than any other group in our society. and and i assign police officers with commissioner bratton, we did it based on sat statistics. we didn't do it on race. if there were a lot of murder in communities, we put a lot of police officers there. if i put all of my police officers on new york than harlem, seven times more -- >> mayor, we're running out of time. i want to ask you about a specific case in cleveland this week. we'll put the video up. i'm sure you're familiar with the case. in was a 12-year-old boy who was walking around, waving what turned out to be an air pistol. police respond to a call and an officer comes up and shoots him dead in two seconds. mayor, i know it's one case. but does this give a sense of what the blacks -- black community's complaint about is that police are on a hair trigger in their communities? >> i mean, there's no question that individual cases have situations that are unjustified. but you hav

the police serve a very specific structural function. s the structure that we have continually have to massage and improve, and work on. and the thing is that hard. so this is what 2014, so this is 36, 46 years after the assassination of martin luther king, we have made -- a significant amount of progress, be uh that structure is deeply deeply rooted in places like st. louis, specifically and throughout the country thank you very much indeed for talking to us, live from baltimore. >> criticized europe for not doing enough to escape war zones and persecution. he has made these remarks in his first speech. now, this is a problem rooted in discrimination, economic deprivation, and tragic conflict, and one of the entry points headed for europe is mas. done yeah, but they face enormous hurdles. in a moment we will have a report on the plight of migrants from south asia, and another way into europe is through greece, thousands of migrants from the middle east, every year, use this as a gate way and as they three the violence, syria, and iraq an

the you can see police in re ought gea gear. many a line of demarcation keep them from going farther forward. >> one car getting through right there. but the people they just seem to be milling around very scary for the people in the cars but we have heard of some, the news van in the area was smashed. trader joe shut down but that's the most we have heard of right notch you can immanuel it is. >> a little smoke or something there on the right side. not sure what is happening 30. we do we have to see what that is. an paula one of our managers here at the television station is on the tell. paula you live in the area and had kuwait the adventure getting home. you are back home safely now i understand. >> i am home safely. i live on like shore avenue right around like merritt and this all started for me on my drive home from the station. there were the lines and lines of police cars blocking pretty much every exit in the like shore park boulevard area. i was able to get off surface street hope. i will say that like shore avenue itse

work but the safety of other police officers andamount importance to me. the lawyers have been telling us that darren wilson only wanted to be a police officer but now he must figure out another career at some point. but many people here in ferguson say getting to this point is simply taking too long. >> if he did resign, i don't think he would have had necessarily a fair chance. he would come back as a police officer. >> there's no way to work in law enforcement again. it's sad. it's unfortunate chain of events. but sad on both parts. >> wilson's lawyer told us last night that there were some threats being made to the city of ferguson police department if wilson had not resigned by saturday night. so perhaps that sounds like that had something to do with the timing of last night's announcement. many people in ferguson say despite the grand jury not indicting him, they're looking forward and have hopes that there might be something that comes of the federal investigation into the shooting death of michael brown. legal experts say th

host: are you censoring the police department for its actions? guest: what you're doing is improving the department. it is based on past actions. the department of justice will have to find ferguson has engaged in a pattern of violating people's rights. that pattern can depend on any number of things good lack of diversity could be one element of that. the way they engage in patrols on the street. whether they disproportionally target african-americans and law enforcement activities, whether they adequately train officers on the use of force. host: do police unions come into this negotiation? guest: they have to be involved so they will have buy-in in the end. the successful implementation of reforms will depend on the cooperation of the police. host: bill yeomans has looked at these things firsthand, not only at the department of justice, but also as a teacher in washington, here to talk about the process of civil rights investigations. michael from imperial beach, california, you are on next. go ahead. caller: i was wondering if you could explai

the police car burned outside of city hall. there were reports of gunshots, and police used tear gas and pepper spray on protesters. missouri's governor called up thousands more members of the national guard, an outside ferguson's police department they helped police guard the building and confront a crowd that grew slowly throughout the evening. eventually they did. they were several arrests but no injuries. as the night went on people slipped away, driven home perhaps the cold air, the extra police presence. later in a news they spoke of a challenging night for them. >> rocks, bottles, it looks like broken tent poles that were hurled at the officers. those are all things that we're trying to protect the guardsmen and the police officers from as they try to do their job. >> darren wilson, the policeman who won't face criminal charges for killing michael brown last august gave his first tv interview. he expressed no remorse and said that he feared for his life during the altercation with michael brown. >> i used the door to push

it can be having diversity on the police force, but in jurisdictions where the population of the police forces african-american in cities like baltimore, you have the issues. these are internalized ideas that we have about who is criminal and who is not and dangerous and not. the 19-year-old was his same size was so painful. it was incredibly painful to the patients. >>> are there is an investigation that has to reach a standard of a civil rights case. what options do they have as a civil suit. >> they can file a civil suit. reverend sharpton referred to this also. he seemed to try to make it as though the department of justice investigation and his investigation were kind of one and the same and they were moving at lock step and that's not true. they have an investigation into the killing, but even more important investigation and that is one looking at whether the ferguson city police department engaged in a pattern and practice of discrimination. the civil rights claims have been filed dating back years against the police department and that's another investigation. you heard michael

i think that police -- the nature of police has changed over the last 20, 25 years, to be one where wee the smallest infractions by people, being these constant tensions. i was hartened at the beginning of this discussion with the united nations commission on civil rights, essentially said that in the united states they think there is a system of apartheid that exists, and there has been. one of your earlier interviewers mentioned that this is a war zone. i don't know that it is a war zone, but these communities have been occupied for quite sometime now, where young people have to stop to give their paths to walk down the street, to drive down the street. that becomes a tension point. it's difficult for police -- and i teach police. young people that want to become police officers. they don't want the job so they can be antagonists, but the job has become that. >> missouri is a state with a lot of municipalities. because they are so small, and because ferguson has become increasingly poor since the '70s, these cities have to raise money for their services, and it is aledged there are a

broke off in front of the police department. came up the street tried to overturn the police cruiser. police came in. stopped. tried to set it on fire. once again, don. much more aggressive response that we saw. quicker response tonight. to try to make sure they didn't see a repeat. >> so, jason. my question was really. these are, wondering if these are people who want their voices to be heard. or if these are people agitators. you are right. if it is you don't want to give them publicity. there are many people who want their voices heard. those, those guys are not those people. correct? >> absolutely. that is correct. >> absolutely. those are the kind of people. as you know, you get a mixed bag in the groups of demonstrators. but most of the people who are out here are out here because -- they want to voice their support for michael brown and his family. those who came up to us, those were not those people. they had a different agenda. that's why i feel it is not worth getting into what their agenda was. not important. what's im

louis have sent a message to the community and fired the police chief, the ferguson police chief, just this is a whole new start, we get it. >> well, the problem is much greater than chief tom jackson there, and the history of that department, that community from what i understand has been in question for a very, very long time. >> but chief jackson didn't make it any better. >> he certainly didn't. >> he made it worse. >> absolutely. he is it not make it any better. we all know that there were a number of missteps that were made that should not have been made, but their decision to terminate him obviously was one that was not in their repertoire of things to do, but that community going forward is going to make some real difficult decisions for them as to how they're going to make transitions in their leadership, not just in that chief's office, but across that community at large in terms of its overall leadership. >> so what should happen tonight to prevent looting and burning and violent protests? >> well, one thing that i will say and one thing i would ask that community from where

but the police presence, the law enforcement's presence is growing. just behind me we just saw some national guard troops go into that courthouse. it's a very visible and strong police presence. and, of course, the governor here is saying that violent unrest will not be tolerated. greta, back to you. >> steve, thank you. and police in missouri setting up a command center near the location of the violent protest last summer. lessons lawyer and former homicide detective ted williams joins us from the command center in ferguson. is there any word tonight where darren wilson is? >> well, greta, no, there is not a direct word where darren wilson is is but i can tell you, greta. this has been a town since august under siege. you have got 22,000 citizens here, greta. and when i go around this town as i have in the last few days, there is one common thread. they are on pins and needles about what is to take place in another hour to two hours. and also, they want their town back. their town, they believe, is not representative of the collision court that took p

on the other are -- a mostly white police toss. ve been protests in other cities, including new york and the capital washington, d.c. president obama called on those who want to protest to do so peacefully. but i also had a message for no the local police force in ferguson itself. >> our police officers put their life on his the line for us every single day. they have a tough job to do, to maintain public safety and hold accountable those who break the law. as they do their jobs, in the coming days, they need to work with the community, not against the community, to distinguish the handful of people who may use the grand jury i's decision as an excuse for violence. >> reporter: the police officer who shot michael brown has welcomed the grand jury i's decision is saying in a statement that he had followed his training and followed the law. but many in ferguson don't accept that, and they are making their feelings known on the streets of this racially divided city. victoria, al jazerra. >> the police officer darren wilson issued a let