>> guest: this is the--the press corps. most of these people covering the watergate hearings as permanent members of the press corps were also members of the white house press corps. c-span: these are all photographers. >> guest: they're all photographers, and--and half of them now have gone to that great big photo assignment in the sky, but 25 years ago, this was a tough bunch of guys. they--they knew their business, and if you were an out-of-town photographer, you--you knew it right away, because they stuck together and they cooperated with each other. c-span: who's on the screen right there? >> guest: that's frank canseleri on the left, who worked for ap at the time, and i can't remember the name of the fellow on the right, but i--i--they were around--they were both regulars. but y--they knew--you knew when a good moment was happening with the witnesses, because all these cameras started clicking at the same time, and made a large--er--noise, but they were especially intrigued with maureen dean, who was a very beautiful l

but there was a lot of skepticism among the press corps, and the regional press press corps that follows us on a day-to-day basis. he's asked about what he's going to be doing in las vegas, well, i don't know if i'm going to be meeting with sheldon and -- little things like that, ratchet up the -- i think the thing that was surprising to most repo reporters, nobody thought that this report would do anything but exonerate chris christie. nobody thought it would be a haf handed as it is. it put a fact out there that david wildstein claimed that he met with chris christie on january -- this was not an artful report. this was so heavy handed that it aroused such skepticism from the press, so the press was a lot more -- the tone of the questions was extremely skeptical and it got christie going, that's what he does when he's facing this kind of heat from the press. listen, there's no smoking gun. he can make this a liberal press versus me thing, he'll lose some friends in that but he'll make more. >> thank you so much to you two and of course there will be much more in depth reporting on chri

the press believes that essentially religious individuals should be forced to abide by whatever the press'standards of morality are. you've seen people like tony cornhighser on espn suggest this law would force people gays in the state of arizona to wear yellow stars or gays and lesbians wouldn't be able to attend nfl football games. this has nothing to do with the law as written and designated to create the perception the american people are a bunch of bigots looking to crowbar gay people in the streets. >> doesn't sound like the america i know. hyperbole is common in the presence. >> hell i deal in that stuff. that's what i do, man. can i just -- >> commentary and then the news media and those are two different things. >> can i take a step back here? i'm from kansas and my -- the thing that got me writing what's the matter with kansas when they had the debate over the theory of evolution in the state of kansas and the media all over the world went absolutely be zeshg, making fun of kansas. it's a replay of the monkey trial down in tennessee in the 1920s. it was a classic media set piece a

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we are told that he will address the report with the press at some point soon. ven't said it so far, but one would think this is going to be what they rest on as the conclusion from the investigation. >> the report very clearly isolates bridget kelly and david wildstein as the bad guys here. >> yes. >> we've seen in this response moments ago from bill stepien saying why are you gratuitously harping over and over and over again on the fact bridget kelly had a brief romantic relationship with me? why do you keep bringing that up? mr. mastro, you were at that press conference today, brought it up unsolicited today at the press conference. i find it very surprising that they're singling out that aspect of her life as a potential explanation for what happened here. is it clear to you what the logic train is about why they're talking about who she dated and when? >> the report alludes to it and dances around it but doesn't make it clear. it's basically saying when this relationship severed, she was not talking to bill stepien, so maybe the communication broke down. may

how do -- the whiteond house press corps is very important. how do you have a situation where some of the folks out in the country, either the republic or reporters who are not in washington who are dissipating in some way. can you imagine experimenting got?what you have >> is hard to imagine. it is something only a new president could do. why, in your point of view, is moded or archaic. ? >> the have talked to reporters who are in the briefing 10 times . >> so it is like behind the curtain. >> they have already written their stories and tweeted about it and blogged. that is a chance on camera were j would have to stand up there and answer questions. it is not as informative as it used to. that used to be your one shot to get an answer. you are only going to write one story and turn it in at 6:00 and it would be in the paper tomorrow. you would do one broadcast at 630. that is not the case anymore. >> what is a book you've read recently that you recommend to people who work for and with you? >> over the course of the that is i read two books re

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welcome back to "meet the press." >> glad to be with you. thank you. >> for the past ten days, the administration officials and the president himself have basically said to russia don't do this or else. here just friday, the president laying it out when he spoke to vladimir putin. >> the united states will stand with the international community in affirming that there will be costs for any military interventioning in ukraine. >> now, you've called this an invasion. so what are the costs? >> well, we're now discussing all of the options. this is an act of aggression that is completely trumped up in terms of its pretext. it's really 19th century behavior in the 21st century and there's no way to start with that if russia persists in this, that the g-8 countries are going to assemble in sochi. that's a starter. but there's much more than that. russia has major investment and trade needs and desires. i think there's a unified view by all of the foreign ministers i talked with yesterday, all of the g-8 and more that they're simply going to isolate

on the right, the press on the left. there is one more paper. him on have a picture of the stand, looking forlorn. that paper is also looking at one of the big winners in these rounds of political voting. there she is, smiles all around. she targeted a small number of .ey villages she had around 12 key representatives for her party and she has been bubbling away, making news of her message, as a she has reported third and a fourth in french politics. a break in the idea that this is the end of the socialist party and right wing party. thoserival of politicians, again, will change the political dimensions and overall the message in the press is that ormonde is alone. we have got the naked emperor, if you like. no clothes. hey, we won paris. meanwhile, in the waters around him we have the boat sinking. water imagery, isn't it? titanic. marking just a bit of good news for him. >> thank you so much for that. and thank you for watching. next is boards. it all starts right now with tennis in miami. >> the fourth miami masters

the press conference is under way in malaysia. >> in the south china sea. 42 ships and 39 aircraft have now been deployed to search for mh beside 370. 12 countries have joined the sear search. this is a multi national operation. we are thankful for the cooperation of our friends and neighbors, which is unwavering, quite overwhelming and we welcome even more. expert assistance. the way forward, ladies and gentlemen, is to be more -- to analyze both the civilian and the military data in the east or in the west on land or in the water. this is exactly what we are doing today. we are now working with many experts, the u.s. federal aviation authority and the u.s. national transportation safety transportation in this investigation. any questions? can you state your name and -- [ inaudible question ]. >> i cannot confirm that. [ speaking foreign language ]. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> some 12 kucountries have now joined the search for the plane and they're bringing more experts to analyze civil and military data, as well. let's see

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well yes and when hutton in the press conferences just read up at red top and me being the minister of national health and family planning permission has graced the media on the pos achievement and also the policy priorities for twenty fourteen she started by repeating the past year she said that i mean in two thousand and thirteen in anthony key reforms including the institutional reform and altering its ten year government has placed the basic medical insurance hundred and eighty done and done with warm up to hospitals have been carried out team morning from eight hundred coach of the hospital is a new lobby at times it has also introduced a gas national essential medicine beds which covers about five hundred and twenty types of madison's any wild dutchman has also successfully chased a private capitalists into the house service at the moment they rot seven thousand three hundred private cost of those one thousand five hundred wood and the previous year and she also said that the international many if any planning policy has also made see the breakthroughs and die she continues. in n

he was not at all confrontational with the press. today, we returned to the chris christie we all know from before that event. the chris christie i think we see a lot of in his town hall style events across the state where he's not afraid to challenge people who he doesn't agree with or doesn't like the question. it's not just the media. we've seen him do this with the members of the public as well. i think this is indicative of christie trying to show us he's putting the bridge scandal behind him and settling back into his old ways. i don't know if you had it in the clip before, but he says he'll be taking our questions going forward. this was the first time in months we had a chance to question him since the january 9th press conference. >> let me ask you, melissa, really quickly. do you think he's still feeling as confident and vindicated now that the bridget kelly response has been released? >> you know, i'm not sure what he thinks about that, but he was asked yesterday by diane sawyer if he thought that if bridget kelly were to s

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the press has really slipped. >>en ot public polls they're all over the map. another poll came out that showed the president gained six points in the last couple months. i've looked at a lot of data. there's no question that everyone in washington, the president included took a big hit from the double whammy of a shutdown and healthcare.gov. we're working our way back. hree points in the last couple months. there's no question we have more work to do. >> there's so much disappointment in the washington. but this is an election year and democrats are worried. and "the new york times" this morning, i've been reading, jonathan martin writes this, democrats are becoming increasingly alarmeded about their midterm election fortunes among obama's shrinking approval ratings. a loss in florida this past week, millions of dollars spent by republicans attacking the new health care law has let to uncharacteristic criticism of president obama and bitter complaints that his political organization has done little to help the party's congressional candidates. >> that's what h

according to the times "the press review", took to quash the story. a spokesperson added: >> ghoul made light of situation posting a photo with the note: >> the casualties say iraq is the second-most dangerous country in the world to be a journalist behind syria, and the latest victim was killed by a politician's body guard. this was the baghdad bureau chief for the radio free iraq. he was shot dead near a checkpoint on march 22nd, near the palace. witnesses told iraqi media that he was arguing with security guards before they dragged him from his car and beat him. and one of the guards shot him in the head from close range. dozens of iraqi journalists gathered at the scene and were joined by prime minister nouri al-maliki, who kissed the body and vowed to arrest the murderer, who was taken into custody. he was a kurd, a member of the president's security detail. in the demonstrations that followed iraqis complained about the aggressive behaviour of body guards working for politicians, a number of iraqi newspapers cancelled the sunday editions. anothe

and i think the press is doing a good job of fleshing out what some of those other issues are. >> i think this case is going to be a textbook place because a lot of the battle is being fought on social media. euro maiden is putting out some very graphic pictures here. >> take a second to explain what that is. >> euro maiden is the term for the war that's happening or the war that's about to happen. >> right. but these people are ukrainians who support the interim government or are happy that the previous president was toppled. >> that's true. >> and, of course, want russia to stay out. >> and they're saying beaten activist, force to yield and they're getting beaten between. you're seeing some people who show the mascots on the tank. and you're seeing it played out and you're also seeing the russian administration using it to say what they're doing and why they're doing it. and it's very much like arab springs. >> the more journalists need to go into this war zone so we have a better picture of -- >> sure, because that's providing you raw material, but you don't know necessarily what is re

that's the big issue up on "meet the press." joining us now, david gregory. >> hi. cretary of state john kerry is my guest this morning. at a critical time. the administration is taking a hard line against vladimir putin and russia. the president has been saying don't do this. russia has gone ahead and done it. secretary of state john kerry says he thinks this is a pretext to the crimea peninsula in the eastern part of ukraine that is part of the ukraine. this is a serious act. the question is, what next? what consequences are the president prepared to pursue at this point? >> is the president doing anything to get putin to retreat? >> he talked to him 90 minutes yesterday. i don't think the the the talks went well. i don't think putin is interested he says he's there to protect russian interests, russians themselves in ukraine. kerry says that's not a pretext but a false pretext for why they're sending forces in. >> with all this happening so fast, we're watching it unravel. could this be the biggest foreign policy challenge for the administration so far? >> it's ha

the new listens to button it contains the press conference to see that in time to deposit monaco and will take on a couple spots. this is a rambling my new roomie and the stream of consciousness in which he repeatedly contradicted himself made strange references the times two thousand ukrainian that the life that mangle main altar of taken place. what's clear out all the sins past conferences that this man is a thick tights and dictates that these answers the phrases it takes career when he believes his article a gunner in which very few people can actually speak sense to have one too. this press conference in which was presented with a pretty exciting too. sounds like the sound off about india and india suffer from a moment to close friends is the center of the us federer's of having ceased its uptake of policy moo is. it was a confusing it was a confusing to the people the press office taken in trying to be in force and the communal take up a lot will take on a crusade comes out of the press conference look a bit frightening. on this one is left trying to master how difficult it wil

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now um of that message throughout the press is he is being punished. one in the main paper is scenic which is thought to be more neutral that also had an interesting take with a good thing was that again from nature because the outdoor show the office thanks to nate punish the recommended sanctions that i left and inside the paper today was a funny piece of local telephony for the stations but if he didn't eat any kids that eat an egg. now that i coming out party and someone close to full swaddled on sunday vietnam in focus the fuss was also coming through said um sep to defend the things that i can make it to the masses being with thinking and not really conveys the meat i can see in the french press across the board saying this isn't really disastrous for the sexes aussie who lay over the next week be able to turn this around and not make it so much of its toxic cesspool far right national front submarine attack. thank you so much that new crush of course that second round of elections coming up next we can't really take you a kit the press is nothing

a lot of information in the press conference. ties were very careful to say look, we don't know what we saw. we want to get more eyes on it. we're sending more commercial satellites on scene to try to get a lot more. but certainly some very concrete information in there. >> absolutely, anderson, i think you're right to caution, even john young cautioned, saying listen, this is not always what it appears to be. the press conference moves so fast, sometimes when you take notes. i found something specifically i wanted to point out. we keep talking about two pieces of possible debris from the plane, two objects. it appears in this press conference that john young mentioned more than two pieces. i think he mentioned a large piece, and then he said a smaller piece. and he said there were other images in the area, which appears he was talking about other images of smaller pieces, let's listen and then we'll talk about it anderson. >> the largest image that i have seen was assessed at 24 meters. and there are a number of other images in t

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the press conference? >> they have identified two objects one is about 24 meters that's about 18 feet long. now these satellite images were taken as far back as sunday but the authorities have only just started to put the pieces of this puzzle together. what is significant about this is the plane was on one of those potential trajectories. this is a path it could have taken. we must emphasize the grainy satellite images they have to p find the wreckage to confirm it may or may not be the plane that the australian authorities say it could be a possibly very strong lead. >> p the image ray was discovered. quite simply, it is critical enough to divert the research to this area on the basis it provide to what might be wreckage. >> australian military planes as well as u.s. and new zealand aircraft are headed out to the area. they are ex pecks the to reach t -- expected to reach the wreckage shortly. it may have drifted over the past few days. this is a wide searched area. australian forces say this is poor disa

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neutrogena® cosmetics. >>> now time for our "meet the press" moment. we couldn't help but go beyond the "meet the press" archives. this week marks the 25th anniversary of the invention of the world wide web. here's keen insight into future trends from a young reporter with kcra television in sacramento way back in 1994. >> what's out there is limited. there's an internetmwd÷ñ yellows listing subjects of information from a to z you can access on the system. it's estimate there had are at least 30 million people using the internet service worldwide and experts predict by the turn of the century that number could up to several hundred million. while the service has always been able to be offer facts about the world or the weather, coming in 1995 -- >> this is the godiva chocolate homepage. >> that's right. purchasing power. you can buy such things as chocolates on the internet or çip &h(lc& electronic store front. >> wow. i couldn't resist poking fun at myself the idea that you can buy chocolate on the internet. it's as if they did that 100 years ago. >>

>> what is fascinating how the press glommed on to the story of how hillary clinton thinks of the press, like these stories are really about hillary clinton and the press. >> this makes hillary clinton look old. she has been around for a long, long time. she has been through many different campaigns. a social media guru said big isn't big anymore. fur a candidate who has all of this experience you probably are not going to hit it with the internet able. >> the idea that politicians get advise on how to deal with press is like what politician doesn't? everyone wants to seem real. >> in 2008 she was aware of the national media and cautious and she will have to deal with that if she runs. another topic i want to squeeze in, bill o'reilly went to the white house in support of the initiative by the president called my brother's keeper to help young black or young minority men dealing with the family of dysfunctional families, an odd couldn't, right, even the president said, o'reilly and al sharpton are in the same room. the lion can lay down with the lamb. who is who? this goes back to the p

they don't want to talk to the press. f the conference room where they've been for days on end to get information. really no one wants to speak all that much. almost like anything they say might tempt fate and might bring that final answer. one psychologist we spoke to, said he fears the worst. some of the elderly have said they have their only children on board that plane because of the one-child policy here in china. some of them have been expressing very open suicidal thoughts. so it's certainly a terrible trauma these families have been going through. they arrived on that saturday morning 12 days ago, john, and they expected the worst then. but as the days go by, they go through all these scenarios in their head like we've been going through, trying to cling on to hope. earlier, they were saying, why isn't the search speeding up? take a listen to this man. >> translator: how is it possible for a plane to lose contact? that is not possible. the u.s. is not stupid. the u.s. found bin laden. how could they not find a plan

we're going to bring you the scene of that press conference. ankly not a lot of news coming out of the australian press conference, which was more of an overview, defense minister saying he had flown there to thank all the crews involved in the search. he also thanks all the countries involved who have actually sent air assets and ships, australia, new zealand, japan, china, korea sending an asset later today. he talked about waiving visas for family members of the crews and the passengers and just talked about the rough conditions, the swells that are out in the search area which have forced officials to call off the search at least for today. no word on if the search will continue. let's listen in to kuala lumpur. >> i am the chairman of the malaysian airlines. as you will be aware, last night the prime minister of malaysia najib razak announced new evidence regarding the disappearance of ma 370 on the 8th of march. based on this evidence, the prime minister's message was that we must now accept the painful reality that the aircraft is now los

the press only mobilized when it's clear that you're in the middle of a full-court press. >> it's interesting to listen to some pundits who a couple of weeks ago couldn't find crimea on a map. but for the correspondents there, it's not the same as being embedded with u.s. troops and perhaps there's less interest back home. >> well, i think now there's growing interest, of course. but as judy said, typically you don't have a lot of interest in the u.s. in foreign policy unless it's a crisis. that's just a fact of being american. our country has been more isolated, surprisingly, not foreign policywise, but domestical domestically. we don't focus on international news economist style the way maybe foreign press does. it wasn't an issue until it was a crisis. >> but i also think the fact that president obama decided now to cut the budget of our federal military spending, got americans interested in this topic. >> i don't think so. i think oechtly that's been a republican argument. not from you, but i'm saying we've had budget cuts during the bush years. you go to the defense department website, y

computers to obtain these documents, as has been suggested in the press. the documents were identified using the search tool provided by the c.i.a. to search the documents provided to the committee. we have no way to determine who made the internal panetta review

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he rejects the notion that turkey's prime minister is no supporter of flee dom of the press and is edging in the direction of the old ottoman empire. he says that tayyip erdogan is a democratic. he spoke to him about the new internet law and the structure problems in the media there and what he calls the turkish way. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> you go a long way back with tayyip erdogan. as a leader he strikes me as being more direct in his involvement with the media. what is it in his background, do you think, that makes him this way? >> i don't think that it has anything to do with his back fwround at all, actually. maybe my answer is going to disappoint you. as i said, it's not unique to him. it's, to a certain extent, just the turkish way. it has to do with media powers, media/politician relations in turkey. >> on the new internet law, which you support, you recently wrote internet liberalism has reached a new level. all countries have got to deal with this issue. all leaders occasionally have things written about them or nasty things said about them on tw

one role of the press as the word press implies is to press for answers. his week we saw new leaks from government officials, we saw hopeful leads in the search, and we saw painful scenes of family members demanding answers from the malaysian government. some were asking the press to keep pressing. the reality is, we in the media operate on a very different timeline than forensic investigators. sometimes we scoop them, oftentimes we pressure them. there's no denying sometimes it affects the investigation. bring in two people who know that better than just about anybody. miles o'brien who covered the aviation industry for cnn for years and is back this month as cnn's aviation analyst. he's a science correspondent for the pbs news hour and john ostrour for "the wall street journal." both of you brought up the idea for the segment, the idea that these timelines are very different. the media timeline and the investigator timeline. miles, is this something true in any investigation like this. >> the investigations take years an the news appetite is immediate. th

>> well, ross, today we were at the premier's press conference. and the chinese premier had definitely indicated and acknowledged the challenging environment that the chinese leadership is now working in. what was interesting was that he had said that the biggest challenge that the leadership faced last year to him in his point of view was the downward pressure on the economy. and he said that this year they could even become more complex. this is what he had to say to us earlier today at the press conference. >> many investors believe that china's growth rate this year could be slower and lower than the official rate of 7.5%. what is the slowest rate of growth that you would find acceptable without stimulating the economy? >> translator: there is no denying that we may encounter a more complex situation this year. we set the gdp growth target for this year at about 7.5%. this about shows that there is a level of flexibility here. you asked me what is the lowest possible gdp growth that we can live with. well, this gdp growth needs to ensure fairle