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the general consensus seems to be a difficult day for the prosecution. would you go along with that? >> i really wouldn't. i think, piers, it's really important, if you listen to the testimony of mr. good, the way he described the person on top was holding the other person down, so even if he's correct, the whole mma style that mark o'mara put forth is not totally true. if you listen to the testimony he described the person on top wasn't whaling away, you may recall in opening statement, whaling away with punches. that's not what he described. i think what happened, they took this theory, tried to put it forth like it happened. yes, there was a scuffle and rolling around on the ground. let's go back to what is important here. george zimmerman got out of his truck, profiled and went after, meaning he was trailing behind trayvon martin, and so people sort of forget that part because that's the major part of this case, the fact that this would have never have happened if george zimmerman would have stayed in his truck. >> do you know if trayvon martin ever t
the general consensus seems to be a difficult day for the prosecution. would you go along with that? >> i really wouldn't. i think, piers, it's really important, if you listen to the testimony of mr. good, the way he described the person on top was holding the other person down, so even if he's correct, the whole mma style that mark o'mara put forth is not totally true. if you listen to the testimony he described the person on top wasn't whaling away, you may recall in opening statement,...
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but why would the prosecution call a witness in the case of mr. good, who seems to be backing up the defense's contention that zimmerman was the one on the bottom of the struggle, at least at a certain point? >> well, the prosecution knew this witness was going to be testifying. they obviously knew it wasn't going to be helpful for them. they very wisely put him in their case, kind of in the middle of it, so that he doesn't become the critical showpiece part of the defense case later on. accomplishes a couple of things. first of all, the prosecution isn't hiding anybody. that's valuable. second, though, he is somewhat in the middle of it. the prosecution is hoping that as other things happen, the jury is going to spend less time thinking about this witness. because one thing is for sure, if during the verdict and the time of the deliberations for the verdict, if the jury keeps asking for the testimony to be read back to them of this witness, that's not a good sign for the prosecution. >> okay. really just quickly, i want to play john good's 911 ca
but why would the prosecution call a witness in the case of mr. good, who seems to be backing up the defense's contention that zimmerman was the one on the bottom of the struggle, at least at a certain point? >> well, the prosecution knew this witness was going to be testifying. they obviously knew it wasn't going to be helpful for them. they very wisely put him in their case, kind of in the middle of it, so that he doesn't become the critical showpiece part of the defense case later on....
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the prosecution wasn't proving anything. this was an emotional ploy to get in this -- to deal with stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the evidence. the only part of this case where they dealt with the evidence is when mark o'mara surgery dismantled that witness who had the ah-ha memory today, and you know, when you introduce this segment where you said that they've been complaining about it all along, i frankly had never seen the hide the ball nature of these prosecutors in this case has been astonishing, breathtaking. and today was another example of it. >> you think they're exceptionally hiding evidence? >> absolutely. hey, there's already an osc contempt on the prosecution that the judge put over to the end of the case, because she didn't want to make a circus out of it now. they caught the prosecution basically with their parents down on turning over discovery. >> what is an osc? >> order to show cause rae contempt. as to whether or not she's going to sanction the prosecution for some of their discovery abuse. t
the prosecution wasn't proving anything. this was an emotional ploy to get in this -- to deal with stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the evidence. the only part of this case where they dealt with the evidence is when mark o'mara surgery dismantled that witness who had the ah-ha memory today, and you know, when you introduce this segment where you said that they've been complaining about it all along, i frankly had never seen the hide the ball nature of these prosecutors in this case...
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>> it could be the key to the whole case for prosecution. don't have a single witness that saw it all that can put it together. the only surviving eyewitnesses of course george zimmerman. but they're actually using, going to be using a lot of the statements that george zimmerman gave to police proving point by point that there are provable falsities in those statements. we all know that innocent people don't have to lie if someone is caught and trapped in a number of untruthful comments, it strongly indicates guilt. and that, as well as of course the young woman who was on the cell phone with trayvon martin in the final minutes of his life, those could be the major parts of the prosecution's evidence. >> zachary, the charge is second-degree murder. florida state law says prosecution has to prove zimmerman committed the unlawful killing of a human being demonstrating a depraved mind regardless of human life. and what the killing was done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent. and indicates an indifference to human life. that's what
>> it could be the key to the whole case for prosecution. don't have a single witness that saw it all that can put it together. the only surviving eyewitnesses of course george zimmerman. but they're actually using, going to be using a lot of the statements that george zimmerman gave to police proving point by point that there are provable falsities in those statements. we all know that innocent people don't have to lie if someone is caught and trapped in a number of untruthful comments,...
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the prosecution putting their star witness on the stand, a female friend of trayvon martin who was on the phone with him as the fatal confrontation began. from the initial questioning to the cross-examination ran the gamete. we're going show a lot of it tonight to you. a warning as well. some of the language was harsh in the courtroom. so if you would rather not hear it, we'll tell you when to turn the volume down. with that in mind, turn the volume down now, if you don't want to hear that language. here's randi kaye's report. >> reporter: rachel jeantel and trayvon martin were good friends. they had known each other since elementary. contrary to reports, they were only friends. >> you weren't in any way his girlfriend? >> no. >> reporter: the two reconnected just weeks before trayvon martin's death. on the night he died from the other end of the phone line, she was, in a sense, within earshot of the tragedy as it unfolded. that's why she's the state's star witness, the only one they think who can tell trayvon's side of the story. >> what was he complaining about? >> that a man kept w
the prosecution putting their star witness on the stand, a female friend of trayvon martin who was on the phone with him as the fatal confrontation began. from the initial questioning to the cross-examination ran the gamete. we're going show a lot of it tonight to you. a warning as well. some of the language was harsh in the courtroom. so if you would rather not hear it, we'll tell you when to turn the volume down. with that in mind, turn the volume down now, if you don't want to hear that...
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jeantel told the prosecution in court it was certainly martin. but west read jeantel a transcript of what she had told him at an earlier deposition. >> so the question is, well, who was screaming for help. it is not trayvon is it, and your answer, it could be trayis von. and the question, you know his voice so well, was that trayvon screaming for help or wasn't it? your answer, it could be. like i said, i don't know. but it could be. the dude sound kind of like trayvon, trayvon do got that soft voice and that baby voice sometimes. so it could be, i don't know. you know it is not. and that is the end of the quote. do you acknowledge that you made those statements, those answers to those questions under oath in depositions? >> yes. >> the defense also attacked a key part of jeantel's testimony that she heard trayvon martin say get off, get off. before the phone disconnected. in her first interview with trayvon martin's family attorney benjamin crump, jeantel said he never said, get off, get off. >> so you made the decision not to tell mr. crump beca
jeantel told the prosecution in court it was certainly martin. but west read jeantel a transcript of what she had told him at an earlier deposition. >> so the question is, well, who was screaming for help. it is not trayvon is it, and your answer, it could be trayis von. and the question, you know his voice so well, was that trayvon screaming for help or wasn't it? your answer, it could be. like i said, i don't know. but it could be. the dude sound kind of like trayvon, trayvon do got...
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the prosecution is not going to put that tape, in and that's going to force the hand, the prosecution, of having george zimmerman having to testify. having to testify that it was him screaming and not trayvon martin. >> no, i agree. i agree that it's hearsay and the defense wants to get it in and probably will not be able to get it in. the prosecution may introduce it for some reason or another to show that george zimmerman told a story that was filled with lies, that's contradicted by all of the prosecution witnesses. i mean, that remains to be seen whether or not it's going to come in. >> let me go back to you, faith. another witness took the stand late today, and said that she saw george zimmerman on top in the fight. she is the third witness so far to say he was on top. watch this. >> did you ever hear the person on the bottom say anything? >> no. >> translator: no. >> at any point did you see the person on top or the person on the bottom get up? >> si. >> translator: yes. >> who did you see get up? >> translator: the one who was on top. i took a few steps from where the body was,
the prosecution is not going to put that tape, in and that's going to force the hand, the prosecution, of having george zimmerman having to testify. having to testify that it was him screaming and not trayvon martin. >> no, i agree. i agree that it's hearsay and the defense wants to get it in and probably will not be able to get it in. the prosecution may introduce it for some reason or another to show that george zimmerman told a story that was filled with lies, that's contradicted by...
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i think that helps the prosecution. i don't think it's a slam dunk but there's some hope that the feeling a mother has for her son will have that feel that will could be my son. there is that possibility. it's not a complete slam dunk for the defense. it's good for them though. >> mark, wouldn't the fact that 12% of the county is african-american, wouldn't you assume that you could -- yes you have a majority white county but you could have had a diversity of some kind on the jury. we're told one of the six is hispanic or african-american. not clear from the prosecution which one that is. i don't know that because the majority of the county is white that that would in many ways satisfy a lot of people that were looking for diverse jury here. >> i've always said since day one of this case, if you were anywhere else and you shoot and kill somebody, unless you're a cop you get arrested immediately and they ask questions later. here you shoot and kill somebody, they ask question, there's an investigation. a lot later you get
i think that helps the prosecution. i don't think it's a slam dunk but there's some hope that the feeling a mother has for her son will have that feel that will could be my son. there is that possibility. it's not a complete slam dunk for the defense. it's good for them though. >> mark, wouldn't the fact that 12% of the county is african-american, wouldn't you assume that you could -- yes you have a majority white county but you could have had a diversity of some kind on the jury. we're...
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not the way the prosecution wants to end the week, i'll give you that. i agree he was a good witness for the defense but it's good for the prosecution in this. what he said sthae did not see zimmerman having his head beaten into the ground on this cement. he said it. >> i didn't see the head hit the concrete was his quote. he said i didn't see that. he was worried of seeing someone on top of someone else screaming for help. he's worried and defined incident as zimmerman on the bottom, trayvon on top. >> straddled mma ground and pound. pretty -- injuries are concities stent. >> yes. >> i see them as being consistent with him being beat up in a tuesdayel. he gets knocked back and pushed back. i don't think it matters the important thing for the prosecution today that keeps them well in the game is the witness afterwards. what he said sthae heard george zimmerman's words momtz after that shot. he said this guy was beating me up, and i emphasize those words. that is not someone thinks they were about to be killed. >> to me that is what it is. he said quote,
not the way the prosecution wants to end the week, i'll give you that. i agree he was a good witness for the defense but it's good for the prosecution in this. what he said sthae did not see zimmerman having his head beaten into the ground on this cement. he said it. >> i didn't see the head hit the concrete was his quote. he said i didn't see that. he was worried of seeing someone on top of someone else screaming for help. he's worried and defined incident as zimmerman on the bottom,...
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the prosecution making it clear they believe george zimmerman was motivated by skin color. how will that play with the jury. the martin family was told to stay out of the court. ben krump joins us. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little more sore. and by the time i get up in the morning, i feel great! if you have back pain, toss and turn at night or wake up tired with no energy, the sleep number bed could be your solution. the sleep number bed's secret is it's air chambers which provide ideal support and put you in control of the firmness. and the bed is perfect for couples because each side adjusts independently to their unique sleep number. here's what clinical research has found: 93% of participants experienced back-pain relief 90% reported reduced aches and pains 87% fell asleep faster and enjoyed more deep sleep. for study summaries, call this number now. we'll include a free dvd and brochure about the sleep number bed including prices, and models plus a free $50 savings card
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i think the prosecution is doing a horrible job, if you just want my opinion. i've been involved in multiple homicide investigations and prosecution, and i can tell you this so far -- this case has definitely been blundered by the prosecution. now, real quickly, two other individuals that we definitely need to hear from. this isn't the time to jump to conclusions, we need to hear, sean, from the lead homicide investigator from the city of sanford. that is very critical, because that's the guy and the viewers wanted to charge zimmerman initially with criminal homicide based on what he saw. that's very important. the other person that's very important is the medical examiner, you have to look at autopsy report that will tell us a lot. all i'm saying at this point, not time to convict nor is it time to acquit. >> i agree, but we do know certain forensic issues. we know that there was grass, that his back was wet. confirms that he was on his back, and that also corroborates part of his story, but even the lead detective, bill, tell me what he can say that would -- i
i think the prosecution is doing a horrible job, if you just want my opinion. i've been involved in multiple homicide investigations and prosecution, and i can tell you this so far -- this case has definitely been blundered by the prosecution. now, real quickly, two other individuals that we definitely need to hear from. this isn't the time to jump to conclusions, we need to hear, sean, from the lead homicide investigator from the city of sanford. that is very critical, because that's the guy...
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>> no, i don't agree it was devastating for the prosecution and now the prosecution has an uphill battle but there is no question this witness was a significant witness for the defense. i was watching the juror's faces. they were very engaged, anderson, they were leaning on and you try to frame the narrative. but we all knew going into this, if you looked at the discovery, this is what the testimony was going to be coming from john good. i suspect that they sort of book ended his testimony. they buried him in the middle and they have many more witnesses to come forward and i suppose put this all into context and put all the pieces of the puzzle together. but there's no question about it, he was a great witness for the defense. >> how significant that you have this other witness who comes forward, the physician's assistant who says that on zimmerman's medical history, it says he was involved in mixed martial arts three times a week? >> well, i guess i would assume he's not very good at it, because trayvon martin was depicted by john good as being on top. so you could take the classes. it
>> no, i don't agree it was devastating for the prosecution and now the prosecution has an uphill battle but there is no question this witness was a significant witness for the defense. i was watching the juror's faces. they were very engaged, anderson, they were leaning on and you try to frame the narrative. but we all knew going into this, if you looked at the discovery, this is what the testimony was going to be coming from john good. i suspect that they sort of book ended his...
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the prosecution has a long way to -- >> not somebody. they're saying differently. >> you just made my point. the witnesses are saying differently. you just proved my point. they don't know -- >> they're saying they thought george zimmerman was on top. they're saying they thought trayvon martin was yelling. they're not just saying they don't know. >> and then they say yeah, i could have been mistaken. that's beyond a reasonable doubt? >> jeff, to danny's point, do you feel like at this point -- you're saying it's little bits here and there, painting a picture. do you feel the prosecution has a smoking gun, has painted a picture that you know for sure what happened that night? >> the irony is we haven't talked about the most important part of the case, which is that there was a 17-year-old boy shot dead with skittles and an iced tea in his pocket. why would trayvon martin be the aggressor in this situation? the 911 call where the operator says don't approach him. that's a terrifically incriminating piece of evidence. do i think they've prov
the prosecution has a long way to -- >> not somebody. they're saying differently. >> you just made my point. the witnesses are saying differently. you just proved my point. they don't know -- >> they're saying they thought george zimmerman was on top. they're saying they thought trayvon martin was yelling. they're not just saying they don't know. >> and then they say yeah, i could have been mistaken. that's beyond a reasonable doubt? >> jeff, to danny's point, do...
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that's those injuries and that testimony was more favorable for the prosecution. however, mr. o'mara did something brilliant and that is this. he will let the physicians assistant amplify on the underlying injuries. meaning not just what was seen but was underneath the body. and there ever, made the injuries seem much more serious than they appear. another thing that mr. o'mara did was he asked the physician's assistant to go through the treatment she would have given. so that gets to illustrate to the injury how grave the injuries must have been at the moment of time. and the third thing he did, which is a great defense move, is that he turned the physician's assistant into a defense witness on the prosecution's case. >> talk about that a little bit. the other thing in addition that mark o'mara did was he repeatedly showed the bloody photographs. he took every opportunity to hold up those photographs of the injuries to george zimmerman's nose and to the back of his head to show those to the jury to drive home the point of injuries. do you think that was effective? >> absolutel
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how devastating was that to the prosecution? >> the entire day today was another disaster, laura, for the prosecution. i mean, after listening to two days of the other star witness for the prosecution rachel jeantel, i didn't think it could get any worse but it did today. you really have to question what is the prosecution doing? what is their strategy? this is their case in chief. this is their time to put on evidence and put on witnesses that support their theory of the case. and what we have seen so far, again, with this particular witness john good is that these witnesses are actually supporting the defense's position in this case. and i think the two points that this john good testified to today point by point corroborate zimmerman's version of events. i don't think the defense could have put on a better witness today quite frankly. >> laura: johnna, i was flipping on. i thought wow, the defense is already putting on their witnesses. did i not realize initially this was a prosecution witness and then we'll move on to the oth
how devastating was that to the prosecution? >> the entire day today was another disaster, laura, for the prosecution. i mean, after listening to two days of the other star witness for the prosecution rachel jeantel, i didn't think it could get any worse but it did today. you really have to question what is the prosecution doing? what is their strategy? this is their case in chief. this is their time to put on evidence and put on witnesses that support their theory of the case. and what...
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." >> first from fox at 3:00, another key witness for the prosecution in the george zimmerman murder trial, painting a vivid picture of the violence suffered just moments before the shooting that killed trayvon martin, and he said that one person was on top of the other, and that he could see the colors of their clothing. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> how about the color of clothing at the bottom? >> i believe it was a light white or red color. >> so that means the teenager, trayvon martin, wearing that dark clothing, he would have been on top of the neighborhood watchman, zimmerman. but that eye witness still casts some doubt over at least one claim the defendant used to justify self-defense. >> did you ever see the person on top slamming the person on the bottom's head on the concrete over and over and over? >> no. >> did you see at any time the person on top grab the person on the bottom's head and slam it to the concrete? >> no. >> they may prove to be somewhat important because george zimmerman says he pulled the trigger after trayvon ma
." >> first from fox at 3:00, another key witness for the prosecution in the george zimmerman murder trial, painting a vivid picture of the violence suffered just moments before the shooting that killed trayvon martin, and he said that one person was on top of the other, and that he could see the colors of their clothing. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> how about the color of clothing at the bottom? >> i believe it was a...
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we had experts lined up to do that, but the prosecution was running out of gas. ity. >> a smart, quiet young man misread? or a son who is finally at the end of all patience? it would be up to the jury to decide. >>> coming up. >> i didn't know what to think. >> the agonizing wait for a verdict. one day, then two. >> you always wonder the longer they're out, is it the worst for >>> and it just happens to be the defendant's house. >> render the only verdict this case requires, a verdict of not guilty. thank you. >> as the trial came to an end, jeffrey pyne's family hoped and even believed that he would be home for christmas. >> i thought that we had a real good chance. i thought that the jury would come back with a not guilty verdict. >> jeffrey's aunt susan remained certain he was innocent. what's more, she says, there was just no evidence to convict him. >> i cannot see him doing that and coming away with no evidence. it should have been somewhere. it should have been on him somewhere. >> the blood. >> something. is he that good? i mean, really. >> as jurors retir
we had experts lined up to do that, but the prosecution was running out of gas. ity. >> a smart, quiet young man misread? or a son who is finally at the end of all patience? it would be up to the jury to decide. >>> coming up. >> i didn't know what to think. >> the agonizing wait for a verdict. one day, then two. >> you always wonder the longer they're out, is it the worst for >>> and it just happens to be the defendant's house. >> render the only...
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they have inverted -- this case is a wonderful inversion of the roles of the prosecution and the defense. >> i want to let our prosecution team come in, but we have to take a break. obviously, a big day in court. we're going to talk forensics from the blood on george zimmerman's head to trayvon martin's dna. the picture jurors got today and could be getting throughout the trial. and later, trayvon martin's stepmother, the woman who raised him since he was 3 years old. what she thinks about the trial and whether her stepson's killer was motivated by race. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can
they have inverted -- this case is a wonderful inversion of the roles of the prosecution and the defense. >> i want to let our prosecution team come in, but we have to take a break. obviously, a big day in court. we're going to talk forensics from the blood on george zimmerman's head to trayvon martin's dna. the picture jurors got today and could be getting throughout the trial. and later, trayvon martin's stepmother, the woman who raised him since he was 3 years old. what she thinks...
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the prosecution wants to paint him as a choir boy. 't hang out with people who despite authority, she's calling questions retarded and putting the secretary on his heels so do disrespectful people hang out with other disrespectful people? >> goes back to cracker comment and the n-word. >> i think they're trying to paint him as a young man minding his own business coming home from buying snacks for a 12-year-old child when a man was following him because he wanted to be the one to catch a supposed criminal. >> does someone walk not on the sidewalk but on right under the eves of homes? it's raining. >> sean: i understand that. but there might be confusion. a neighborhood had a lot of crime, then you've got someone out of the rain and there is disspigs on both sides. >> i think he was overzealous. let's say confrontation results from them, let's just say you believe evidence that he's following them and turns around, and says what are you following me for? and then, george zimmerman says what are you doing here, a fight ensues let's forge
the prosecution wants to paint him as a choir boy. 't hang out with people who despite authority, she's calling questions retarded and putting the secretary on his heels so do disrespectful people hang out with other disrespectful people? >> goes back to cracker comment and the n-word. >> i think they're trying to paint him as a young man minding his own business coming home from buying snacks for a 12-year-old child when a man was following him because he wanted to be the one to...
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message can be damaging to the prosecution. only do those juror know and somehow it was improper to excuse them. the rest of the jury knows, too. so the prosecution starts out with this taint of having doing something proper. the jury knows it. >> that's exactly what's going to happen. >> how long do you see this trial going on for? >> i don't know. i mean, i don't think this is a case where you want it to go on longer or drag it out indefinitely. i think if you are in the defense camp on the case, you want to get this over as quickly as possible. i think it's to the prosecution's advantage to drag it out. ideally, so that they can get into some of these alternates that are there. i tell you, i cannot emphasize enough placing two of the jurors who the prosecution who had excused back into that jer -- jerry box, in a case here so racially charged, i can't even imagine what is going through the prosecutor's minds at this point. >> mar geragos, marcia clark, good to have you on. go to cnn.com, there is a lot more there. >>> next th
message can be damaging to the prosecution. only do those juror know and somehow it was improper to excuse them. the rest of the jury knows, too. so the prosecution starts out with this taint of having doing something proper. the jury knows it. >> that's exactly what's going to happen. >> how long do you see this trial going on for? >> i don't know. i mean, i don't think this is a case where you want it to go on longer or drag it out indefinitely. i think if you are in the...
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>> is the prosecution's star witness helping or hurting its case? >> i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> president obama dismissive of nsa leaker edward snowden who remains on the run, but some top administration officials say the leaker could cost american lives. >> people may die as a canadiens consequence of what this man did. >> we'll have a debate. >> i think the inspector general was not forthright. >> the inspector general has questions to answer now. >> now liberals are complaining that the irs put a target on their backs, too, even though the inspector general says that's simply not the case. we'll give you the facts. and senator rand paul will be here to opine about all the issues and scandals facing washington today. >> caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. hi. i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. we want to get strata to the drama unfolding in sanford, florida, where the prosecution's star witness in the george zimmerman murder trial wrapped up her spellbinding
>> is the prosecution's star witness helping or hurting its case? >> i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> president obama dismissive of nsa leaker edward snowden who remains on the run, but some top administration officials say the leaker could cost american lives. >> people may die as a canadiens consequence of what this man did. >> we'll have a debate. >> i think the inspector general was not forthright. >> the inspector...
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that was key to the prosecution's case. rts would have said it was not zimmerman screaming on the call. zimmerman has said he shot and killed trayvon martin in self-defense. >>> the u.s. government has now charged admitted nsa leaker edward snowden. snowden is in hiding and has last been seen in hong kong. he's facing three charges right now, including theft of government property. the other two charges amount to espionage under the federal espionage act. >>> secretary of state john kerry is in qatar today for the so-called friends of syria meeting. supporters of syrian rebels discuss possible aid to the opposition that could include military support. right now rebel forces are fighting mostly with small weapons and no air power. kerry said today's discussions focused on ending the violence and bringing a peaceful resolution to the crisis. >>> nelson machine della's family visited him in the hospital today. the former south african president has been hospitalized since june 8th. he's said to be in serious condition -- he's s
that was key to the prosecution's case. rts would have said it was not zimmerman screaming on the call. zimmerman has said he shot and killed trayvon martin in self-defense. >>> the u.s. government has now charged admitted nsa leaker edward snowden. snowden is in hiding and has last been seen in hong kong. he's facing three charges right now, including theft of government property. the other two charges amount to espionage under the federal espionage act. >>> secretary of...
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the prosecution's opening just 30 minutes. two very different approaches today as the jury began considering whether george zimmerman is guilty of killing trayvon martin. joining me now is former prosecutor faith jenkins, msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, and florida defense attorney ken padowitz. thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> ken, you've made many opening arguments. what is your reaction to today's openings? >> well, i have to say, after 35 first degree murder trials i've handled here in the state of florida, i would describe the prosecutor's opening as simply brilliant. i thought it was a fantastic use of bringing the jury, the six women sitting there listening to this prosecutor, out of that courtroom and to the scene of the crime. he used, this prosecutor, the words of george zimmerman to do this. and it was shocking, yes, but i think it was very effective in bringing them to that crime scene, bringing them to the time period when this 17-year-old was shot and killed. and i think he d
the prosecution's opening just 30 minutes. two very different approaches today as the jury began considering whether george zimmerman is guilty of killing trayvon martin. joining me now is former prosecutor faith jenkins, msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, and florida defense attorney ken padowitz. thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> ken, you've made many opening arguments. what is your reaction to today's openings? >> well, i have to...
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that's what the prosecution will argue. ion this entire circumstance of events that led to trayvon martin's death. >> you know, ken, that's a good point. another point that drives that home is the jury seems very conscious of the martin family. one court reporter says juror b-29 looked at martin's parents after hearing a 911 call say "black man down, he is dead." also when shown photos of martin's body, jurors b-29 and b-76 looked at tracy martin. so you get a sense that the emotion is there. and with the parent there's, people remember, we are talking about a minor and an adult how. is this coming out to you in terms of jury reaction? >> well, after having done 35 first-degree murder trials as a prosecutor here in florida, i can tell you, this is not a movie. this is real life. they're sitting there in this courtroom. they're feet away from the parents who have lost their teenager. he is dead. he is never coming home. and that -- that feeling, that emotion in that courtroom has to be something that they can reach out and to
that's what the prosecution will argue. ion this entire circumstance of events that led to trayvon martin's death. >> you know, ken, that's a good point. another point that drives that home is the jury seems very conscious of the martin family. one court reporter says juror b-29 looked at martin's parents after hearing a 911 call say "black man down, he is dead." also when shown photos of martin's body, jurors b-29 and b-76 looked at tracy martin. so you get a sense that the...
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the prosecution witness is totally favorable to the defense. so, things are actually looking pretty good as people are reading the tea leaves now. >> darren, is there a possibility that prosecutors overreached with the second-degree murder charge which requires proof of ill-will or hatred? the witness that seemed to side with what -- back-up what george zimmerman said, do you think they overreached with this? >> well, maybe. i mean, this case really has become about so much more than the facts of that night. but really, in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion, it should be all about the facts of that night. and we really have two completely divergent views of what happened. if you believe that george zimmerman was stalking trayvon martin, that he had this yaend that he was out to pursue somebody, specifically because of race, then the murder charge is not too much. and what's fascinating to me about this particular case is it seems to be such a breakdown just in terms of ordinary human kindness and communication. this whole traged
the prosecution witness is totally favorable to the defense. so, things are actually looking pretty good as people are reading the tea leaves now. >> darren, is there a possibility that prosecutors overreached with the second-degree murder charge which requires proof of ill-will or hatred? the witness that seemed to side with what -- back-up what george zimmerman said, do you think they overreached with this? >> well, maybe. i mean, this case really has become about so much more...
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that helps the prosecution in one sense. it helps the defense in another sense. it helps the defense because he's compliant. when law enforcement came, he immediately identified himself as the shooter, put up his hands, identified he had a firearm, and answered all of their questions. but he was also very, very calm. according to one witness kind of strangely so. he didn't seem to be in shock and didn't look back at the body of trayvon martin even though he had just shot him. >> we just saw the police officer testifying to whether or not there was blood in the car when he was taken to the station house. so have we established how injured george zimmerman may or may not have been and what that goes to it the altercation they may or may not have had? >> the defense has taken every opportunity today to put up those photos of george zimmerman's head, the front shot that shows swelling to his nose and some lacerations to his nose and the shot behind his head. he had very short hair back then. almost a shaved head. you could clearly see the back of his head with lacera
that helps the prosecution in one sense. it helps the defense in another sense. it helps the defense because he's compliant. when law enforcement came, he immediately identified himself as the shooter, put up his hands, identified he had a firearm, and answered all of their questions. but he was also very, very calm. according to one witness kind of strangely so. he didn't seem to be in shock and didn't look back at the body of trayvon martin even though he had just shot him. >> we just...
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they have inverted -- this case is a wonderful inversion of the roles of the prosecution and the defense. >> i want to let our prosecution team come in, but we have to take a break. obviously, a big day in court. we're going to talk forensics from the blood on george zimmerman's head to trayvon martin's dna. the picture jurors got today and could be getting throughout the trial. and later, trayvon martin's stepmother, the woman who raised him since he was 3 years old. what she thinks about the trial and whether her stepson's killer was motivated by race. i'm doing my own sleep study. advil pm® or tylenol pm. the advil pm® guy is spending less time lying awake with annoying aches and pains and more time asleep. advil pm®. the difference is a better night's sleep. with annoying aches and pains and more time asleep. this is what matters. the experience of a product. how will it make someone feel? will it make life better? does it deserve to exist? we spend a lot of time on a few great things. until every idea we touch enhances each life it touches. you may rarely look at it. but you'll alwa
they have inverted -- this case is a wonderful inversion of the roles of the prosecution and the defense. >> i want to let our prosecution team come in, but we have to take a break. obviously, a big day in court. we're going to talk forensics from the blood on george zimmerman's head to trayvon martin's dna. the picture jurors got today and could be getting throughout the trial. and later, trayvon martin's stepmother, the woman who raised him since he was 3 years old. what she thinks...
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the prosecution adhered to that. n we have the two to four week estimate from both sides to the length of this trial. this is a no nonsense judge keeping to the schedule. >> all right. thanks very much, lisa. always good to have your expertise. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company pz kwp thomas roberts is up next. >> hey. >> get ready. >> a wild morning. >> busy day. >> we've got our seat belts buckled. the agenda next hour, the supreme court issuing the first of four summer blockbuster decisions dealing with affirmative action. we're going to break it down and reaction from the reverend al sharpton and naacp emeritus. catch me if the can. where is edward snowden? ecuador did give edward snowden a document called refugee document of passage that got him out of hong kong. where he is now is anybody's guess. we're going to break down the latest. well, ready to go look? so ready. lots of options, huh? i can help you narrow it down. ok thanks. this one's smudge free. smudge-free. really? and this one
the prosecution adhered to that. n we have the two to four week estimate from both sides to the length of this trial. this is a no nonsense judge keeping to the schedule. >> all right. thanks very much, lisa. always good to have your expertise. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company pz kwp thomas roberts is up next. >> hey. >> get ready. >> a wild morning. >> busy day. >> we've got our seat belts buckled. the agenda next hour, the...
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>> yes, sir. >> so the prosecution's "star witness" have a credibility problem? here with reaction, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson jr. and jonah spilbore and attorney analisa sekolazi. creepy ass cracker, and the "n" word. what do you think about that? >> if this is the star prosecution witness, i don't want to see the worst witness. the case in terms of prosecution was supposed to be about racial attitudes of george zimmerman and front and center, we hear trayvon martin invoking the "n" word and another bad word, cracker. so i think it's backfired in a big way. >> and annie, the prosecutor? >> i will disagree. that's what we do. this is a teenager. while i wish it wasn't, this is how kids are talking. it's not so unexpected, and i say it goes toward her credibility, because that is what she said. >> you believe she was a credible, helpful witness for the prosecution? >> yeah, i do. >> writes a lie, and couldn't even read the letter? >> she can't really write very well. we're not talking about a woman extremely educated. >> she said she wrote the letter. >>
>> yes, sir. >> so the prosecution's "star witness" have a credibility problem? here with reaction, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson jr. and jonah spilbore and attorney analisa sekolazi. creepy ass cracker, and the "n" word. what do you think about that? >> if this is the star prosecution witness, i don't want to see the worst witness. the case in terms of prosecution was supposed to be about racial attitudes of george zimmerman and front and center,...
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but why would the prosecution call a witness in the case of mr. good, who seems to be backing up the defense's contention that zimmerman was the one on the bottom of the struggle, at least at a certain point? >> well, the prosecution knew this witness was going to be testifying. they obviously knew it wasn't going to be helpful for them. they very wisely put him in their case kind of in the middle of it so that he doesn't become the critical show piece part of the defense case later on. accomplishes a couple of things. first of all, the prosecution isn't hiding anybody. that's valuable. second, though, he is somewhat in the middle of it. the prosecution is hoping that as other things happen, the jury is going to spend less time thinking about this witness. because one thing is for sure, if during the verdict and the time of the deliberations for the verdict, if the jury keeps asking for the testimony to be read back to them of this witness, that's not a good sign for the prosecution. >> okay. really just quickly, i want to play john good's 911 cal
but why would the prosecution call a witness in the case of mr. good, who seems to be backing up the defense's contention that zimmerman was the one on the bottom of the struggle, at least at a certain point? >> well, the prosecution knew this witness was going to be testifying. they obviously knew it wasn't going to be helpful for them. they very wisely put him in their case kind of in the middle of it so that he doesn't become the critical show piece part of the defense case later on....
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but the prosecution had a star witness named rachel jeantell. as not a benefit for the defense. but she also benefitted the defense. we'll watch a little bit of rachel jeantell and this particular clip brings up the issue of race. let's watch. >> i asked what the man looked like and he just told me the, the man looked creepy. and. >> you said the man looked kroepy. >> creepy white to my neighbors cracker. >> and what did you say. they are having trouble hearing you. >> kroepy as cracker. >> and with that word heard around the world. >> that hurt the prosecutions. what they were trying to get. the way they were trying to get evil and hate and spite was implying that he was acting out of racial an mrift. and they introduced 911 tapes of prior calls all of them about black males. there were other calls. >> george zimmerman was a neighborhood watch men. >> and the prosecution picked four that said black male. the racial animist came out of a witness that said trayvon used the slur. that was a bad witness in that respect. she said things that were ben
but the prosecution had a star witness named rachel jeantell. as not a benefit for the defense. but she also benefitted the defense. we'll watch a little bit of rachel jeantell and this particular clip brings up the issue of race. let's watch. >> i asked what the man looked like and he just told me the, the man looked creepy. and. >> you said the man looked kroepy. >> creepy white to my neighbors cracker. >> and what did you say. they are having trouble hearing you....
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i think it's to the prosecution's advantage to drag it out. ideally, so that they can get into some of these alternates that are there. i tell you, i cannot emphasize enough placing two of the jurors who the prosecution who had excused back into that jury box, it's crossed all their minds, in a case here that is so rationally charged, i can't even imagine what is going through the prosecutor's minds at this point. >> mark geragos, marsha clark, good to have you on. go to cnn.com, there is a lot more there. >>> next the fight over immigration reform, how it may reshape the republican parties. some insight ahead. has an active naturals oat formula that creates a moisture reserve so skin can replenish itself. aveeno® naturally beautiful results. >> more politics now, not only it affects a lot of people and can reshape america's border with mexico, on top of all thats a battle in many ways for the future of the republican party. we are talking about immigration reform. today in the senate, two republicans called for an amendment for 20,000 border a
i think it's to the prosecution's advantage to drag it out. ideally, so that they can get into some of these alternates that are there. i tell you, i cannot emphasize enough placing two of the jurors who the prosecution who had excused back into that jury box, it's crossed all their minds, in a case here that is so rationally charged, i can't even imagine what is going through the prosecutor's minds at this point. >> mark geragos, marsha clark, good to have you on. go to cnn.com, there is...
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so jonathan good comes along, called by the prosecution, and what does he say? e man on the bottom was george zimmerman. that's huge for the defense. absolutely huge. >> ricki, the trial began with the defense attorney in his opening statement telling him knock-knock jokes. i don't know how well that went over with the jury. it maybe impossible to tell. he also had testimony exchanged with one of the witnesses. what impact do you think that will be? >> i think there are different impacts. the studies are region. i've been talking about this as long as i can remember about opening statements. 80% of jurors' minds are made up at the end of opening statements. then it's the lawyer's job to keep someone saying, oh, yes, i made the right decision at that point. it's hard to change that. having that knock-knock joke, i would say, was a bigger ror becau error because that ended his credibility with george zimmerman. however, i would say he came back shining. his cross examinations have been really very, very effective. and when you have the star witness, trayvon martin'
so jonathan good comes along, called by the prosecution, and what does he say? e man on the bottom was george zimmerman. that's huge for the defense. absolutely huge. >> ricki, the trial began with the defense attorney in his opening statement telling him knock-knock jokes. i don't know how well that went over with the jury. it maybe impossible to tell. he also had testimony exchanged with one of the witnesses. what impact do you think that will be? >> i think there are different...
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strong points for the prosecution. efense side though the defense is playing the calls, including the call where george zimmerman sounds very, very calm on the phone with the police officer. george zimmerman's injuries show that he was beaten up. that's what the defense says. zimmerman does have some injuries and that zimmerman fully cooperated with the police from the very beginning, did he not lawyer up. he submitted to every test, every interview that they asked of him. and that the police did not arrest him that night. police initially came to the same conclusion the defense comes to. >> were you surprised that don west pro act ofly said zimmerman was following trayvon martin? >> yes! good catch. good catch. that's something i think that's inconsistent with the statements george zimmerman made. >> had this is the first i heard of the body being found face down. do you think that's something? >> we had heard that. right, it is going to be very difficult because of course there were two men there, only one survived. w
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that is what the prosecution said. player's girlfriend broke down and people stepped into shield her. >>> the administration is being slammed for opening the door to this guy here. he is the vice president of the international union of muslim scholars. that is a group considered so radical that the united states banned him from entering the country. the white house defending the meeting saying that he has spoken out against al qaeda in the past, but that is not l letting them off the hook for this meeting. rich lowery joins me now. all right so the sheik comes to the white house on june 13th, and they are admitting that that happened. but this boss that he works for are controversial. tell us. >> they are a radical group. he is a horrible actor. >> the guy who paid the visit? >> his boss. he has said nice things about the nazis and all of the rest of it. the guy who wept nt to the whit house isn't so great either. he endorsed a group against u.s. troops in iraq. for me, he has blood on his hands. what the administration
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conversely, i think the prosecution hit a home run. i think they had the tone just right. i think that throughout their opening statement, they echoed the extreme nature of the case. >> so one of the things here legally, i just want to -- i know a bit about the law. my wife's a lawyer. i get some sort of osmosis about the law. but as a nonlawyer, if i'm sitting in that juror's box, right, it's an interesting case from a certain perspective because there's not a dispute about who shot who. a lot of times what you are trying to establish in a murder trial is was this a person who fired the gun? there's forensic evidence whether he did or not. that is not the issue here, right? the issue here is what? it is self-defense. what does that mean legally? >> well, legally, of course, the issue is whether or not george zimmerman had some reason to believe that he was in danger of being harmed seriously and, therefore, had the right to defend himself and in this case with deadly force. you know, i'm not an expert on florida law. i'm not going to pretend to be. it seems to me that's p
conversely, i think the prosecution hit a home run. i think they had the tone just right. i think that throughout their opening statement, they echoed the extreme nature of the case. >> so one of the things here legally, i just want to -- i know a bit about the law. my wife's a lawyer. i get some sort of osmosis about the law. but as a nonlawyer, if i'm sitting in that juror's box, right, it's an interesting case from a certain perspective because there's not a dispute about who shot who....
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the prosecution described five of the jurors as white. the sixth juror was described as hispanic or black. late today these jurors were sworn in by the judge. >> if you'll stand up and raise your right hands to be sworn. >> raise your right hand, please. do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will well and truly try this issue between the state of florida and the defense according to the laws and rend area true verdict, so help god? >> i do. >> thank you. >> you now have been sworn to be the jury in this case. >> one year, three months, and 25 days after the shooting death of 17-year-old trayvon martin, a jury will now be asked to determine what happened on that rainy night. opening statements will begin monday morning at 9:00 a.m. in the case of the state of florida versus george zimmerman. joining me now criminal defense attorney, paul henderson and lisa bloom. thank you all for joining me. >> >> thanks for having us. >> what's your reaction? >> this is one of the most important selects of the jury. it's a silly name. it's really not
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. >>> witness for the prosecution. let's play "hardball." good evening. leading off tonight, back on the stand. for a second day, rachel jeantel described as the prosecution's key witness underwent a long and grueling cross-examination. zimmerman is accused of murdering the unarmed trayvon martin last year. trying to discredit the young woman who was the last person to speak to martin moments before he was killed. and in fact as he did yesterday, west exposed a number of inconsistencies in numerous efforts to describe what happened that night. but what is not as clear is whether west managed to successfully challenge the core of her story, that george zimmerman stalked trayvon martin moments before their fatal confrontation. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, and former florida circuit court judge alex ferrer. judge alex, is she as integral to the prosecution of this case as we have all made her out today? >> she absolutely is. she is the key witness. she was talking to him at the time of the confrontation, or right up to the confrontation. sh
. >>> witness for the prosecution. let's play "hardball." good evening. leading off tonight, back on the stand. for a second day, rachel jeantel described as the prosecution's key witness underwent a long and grueling cross-examination. zimmerman is accused of murdering the unarmed trayvon martin last year. trying to discredit the young woman who was the last person to speak to martin moments before he was killed. and in fact as he did yesterday, west exposed a number of...