look at the differences you see between nwfp and punjab. folks are much more concerned about these organizations. a think there is a fairly straightforward explanation. oddly enough, the afghan taliban -- this is really about ethnic insurgent violence. so maybe the afghan taliban are pretty clever. they're not making a problem. but you see these other three provinces. maybe that explains why this isn't out liar here. we also asked about the activities of military groups -- militant groups in pakistan as a whole. you see interesting differences. with fox in the -- with folks in me nwfp and the punjab as a whole. when they began suicide campaigns, they really concentrated in the punjab and fata and nwfp. aside from the attack on benazir bhutto in recent years, they have really been scared. going back to the question of the goals, we asked whether the taliban was going to take over all of pakistan, and what would this be? you see real provincial differences with people in the print job, which has been most affected by the activities -- people i

punjab? i thought, we have a problem if the director of the cia does not aware the punjab is. polling is generally is useful if it can serve as part of the educational process for policy makers. i particularly like chris's add- ons because it forces you to think about the differences between parts of pakistan. what i am deeply concerned about is the notion of pakistani public opinion. there is no pakistani public opinion except that which is being manufactured by the polling organizations. that gives us and the pakistan government something to talk about. to the degree that pakistan moves toward being a more participatory state, that is useful. in the since the pakistan government may have to take account of some public opinion as defined by american pollsters. from the point of view of american policy-makers who often know nothing about a region or country, calling forces them to think a little bit or at least generalize about pakistan and the critical difference between provinces. my analogy in india, the attitudes of north and south indians are enormous. there are important

likud the differences between nwfp and punjab. people in these provinces are much more concerned about these activities than those in baluchistan and the same in the high threat categoryed. i think there's probably a fairly straightforward explanation if we can assume these baluchistan figures are reflecting a baluchi attitude as afford to the lumbee sip problem and that is, while baluchistan is the home of the afghan taliban it is really about insurgents islands. you haven't really seen the taliban in baluchistan. so, maybe the afghan taliban are pretty clever and not going to make a problem but you have much moore's islamist violence across these other three provinces so maybe that explains why baluchistan is really an allied air here. we also ask pakistani's about the activities of religious militant groups in pakistan as a whole and again, we see interesting provincial differences. with both and nwfp and the punjab being the most concerned and if you think about this certainly since 2006 when the afghan taliban really began a c

but the punjab is on the range of sindh. more people think things are going to get west and similar in punjab are more dubious. now the next set of questions, pipa, you asked these questions of a lot of countries, these particular questions. so they may seem strange. but pipa asked these questions in the countries which they operate and it is a good collaboration of how pakistanis view these. and because they asked this question in pact, it gives them a trend line. to my knowledge, you haven't written out provincial differences. so we don't have a trend line here. but we asked pakistanis what they believe to be a u.s. goal. and the first question here is the creation of a palestinian state. now nwfp is an outlier. i don't know why they would have this view. obviously overall, there is not a lot of views. vast majority think it's not a goal. there is a reason why this question is important in pact. i spent a lot of time looking at militancy in that country. and even though the militant groups haven't sent folks over, but i thi

look at the differences you see between nwfp and punjab. i think there is probably a fairly straight forward exchange if we can assume that these physician are reflecting an attitude as opposed to the lumpy soup problem. the violence in this area is really about ethnic violence. you haven't really seen the taliban act tiff there. my dog doesn't soil her kennel. maybe the afghan taliban are clever that they are not going to make a problem there. but you had much more islammist violence across the other three provinces. maybe that explains why it is really an outlier here. we asked pakistanis about the activities of religious militant groups in pakistan as a whole. again, you see really interesting provincial dependings. the folks in the nbp and the punjab most concerned. when they began a campaign of suicide bombings, they are concentrated in punjab and other places. they have really been spared the rafpblgs of this kind of violence and you see this reflected in the interprovincial differences. going back to the pakistan taliban goals. we ask

this is as true and the punjab as it is in the nwfp and fought top. -- and fata. when pashtun is are behaving in other parts of pakistan, that behave like pakistan is elsewhere. that is not what is explaining it. >> let me add a reminder that we showed some provincial breakdowns because, for purposes of policy, it is really important to understand how attitudes might be distributed differently in places where there is a war than places where there is not. just putting in very crudely, the great majority of findings overall in this study do not show these big differences. the other point i would like to make has to do with the idea of identity, that somehow if, in fact, across four provinces, everyone wants of were the majority agree and say the same thing, that that means that some kind identity of pakistan is is being manufactured here. since we polled internationally, we document many questions in which people on opposite sides of the world happen to have majorities that answered a question the same way. that does not mean they are sharing an identity. it certai

. >> what about the incident today in the punjab? >> extraordinary scenes, a huge crater. it is not clear whether this was inside of or outside of the building, but it appears to have destroyed a makeshift girls' school. where the girls were being caught in a much rasa. documents appear to be connecting this with an extremist movement. for someone that appears to have been storing that equipment, a number of children have been killed. known fatalities, at least seven were children. a huge blast that destroyed the building. >> thank you, david. in a few minutes we would be speaking to the red cross about their assessments and how safe it is for refugees to return here you can follow the story on line, bbc.com. breaking news, chinese state media reports that two chinese muslims have been arrested. this follows last week's trouble in the riots where 184 people were killed. there's a separate report coming from hong kong, reporting that two policemen were also shot dead by wiigers. more on that as we get at. country in the midst of economic recession, defying the wishes of his

i want to go back to questions that were aed by this gentleman earlier about the southern punjab and karachi, and really would you be willing to theorize what a political situation since there is an emphasis on the legal situation, in these areas would actually look like wax and so now we look at the newspaper and there's talk about a new province in the southern punjab. is that what we are leaning toward or using other solutions to these problems? >> i haven't seen the daunting, but that has been on the table and people have talked about increasing the number of provinces for a long time. it hasn't really gone anywhere as far as a political institution is concerned. but i was hopeful, optimistic on the political thing because we have an elected government now and we have a government in baluchistan, which is a governor, minister, all the ministers of the luke. also we've had a similar arrangement in the past, but this time it looks more gerbil, more sustainable. and you also have a good fix on the grievances as the other side has in terms of job opportunities in terms of education an

. >>> at least nine people have been killed in the punjab province. 1 and 50 were injured. e explosion destroyed the home of a religious leader. at least seven children are among the dead. >>> it has been nearly eight years since international troops were deployed in afghanistan. since that time, at least 1200 soldiers of all nationalities have lost their lives. this is brought into sharp focus today with the memorial service for the eight british soldiers killed in 24 hours. >> prime minister gordon brown visited the troops in april. he is now coming under sustained political at tack about the afghanistan campaign. he is accused of under equiping the troops. >> people say that our urgent priority is to get the right equipment to the forces on the front line. they are right. we must do that. it is a scandal that they still lacked enough helicopters to move around in southern afghanistan. the government must deal with that issue as a matter of extreme emergency. >> the british forces are still fighting and pushing ahead into key areas before the afghan elections in august. ma

i want to go back to questions that were asked by this gentleman earlier about the southern punjab and karachi, and really would you be willing to theorize what a political situation since there is an emphasis on the legal situation, in these areas would actually look like wax and so now we look at the newspaper and there's talk about a new province in the southern punjab. is that what we are leaning toward or using other solutions to these problems? >> i haven't seen the daunting, but that has been on the table and people have talked about increasing the number of provinces for a long time. it hasn't really gone anywhere as far as a political institution is concerned. but i was hopeful, optimistic on the political thing because we have an elected government now and we have a government in baluchistan, which is a governor, minister, all the ministers of the luke. also we've had a similar arrangement in the past, but this time it looks more gerbil, more sustainable. and you also have a good fix on the grievances as the other side has in terms of job opportunities in terms of education a

. >> guest: the other influence is particularly strong and punjab and features in the northwest frontier province but and punjab there's the archipelago of shrines that they will visit and spend hours in the evenings or study poetry, dancing, and it is a very, very unorthodox. as the taliban, what is happening right now that one of the first things the taliban did was take over some of the shrines and say we are running these and nobody comes in here. is a direct threat because it is a different relationship with god, it is very 191 very intimate relationship that requires a dancing. >> host: it is joyous and the celebration of this form of islam is not looking dazed locking women await a celebration. >> guest: webex 20087 months after being kicked out setback for a celebration for the smithsonsmithson ian it is the annual celebration it is the largest of pakistan around half a million show up it is out of control it is the greatest party can imagine. >> host: when we read this it is like the muslim mardi gras. >> guest: totally. men and women dancing and right in front of the shrine it

it occurred in the punjab province. dozens of houses were destroyed there. at least 50 people were injured. some people were trapped inside the wreckage. the cause sun known. reports say the blast was centered in a house used as a religious school for young girls and as a meeting point for anti-western militants. >>> an iranian mother had to wait nearly a month before her worst fears had b her son were confirmed. the 19-year-old was buried yesterday in tehran. human rights activists say he was at least one of at least 20 people killed during last month's iran election protests. after his disappearance, his mother made repeated inquiries. activists say that the iranian government finally notified her saturday, 26 days after her son's death. >>> costco members may have big bucks buying their jumbo packs of tea or giants jars of mayo but they are being fleeced out of millions of dollars in renewal fees. my daughter was with me. i took a bayer aspirin out of my purse and chewed it. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about a

satisfaction particularly to an end and some of the grievances with those people need to be addressed and have been festering for a long time and southern punjab which i mentioned in the context of kashmir and the past activities there, has come up, on the... that area, as a sort of a stronghold of these militant organizations, who were formally operating in kashmir, or supporting the freedom struggle in various ways in kashmir. for the time being, it is quiet. and, again, with the political government, and with enough capacity, it can be tackled, and, there are -- it's not necessarily a military operation, that would clear that. but, there are other ways of doing it, which we could discuss, but i think, it is the -- a political solution, that they have to find to that problem. karachi has had ups and downs and the history is sectarian, ethnic. there is a large pashtun population there, who really control the lever on the dock, they control the transport, the mass transit, in karachi, and, then there is this other ethnic group which is this government, the mqm. i think, again, there is political capacity to handle that situation, and the mqm h

. >>> across the border today, at least nine people were killed in an explosion in punjab province in central pakistan. the explosion destroyed a house used as a religious seminary for children and seven children were said to be among the dead. police said the owner of the house had been accused of recruiting fighters to battle western troops in afghanistan. and they said, there was evidence that it was a meeting point for militants. >>> hundreds of pakistanis began returning to their homes today in the swat valley under a government repatriation program. that is the area in the northwest part of pakistan, where the military fought an intense battle in the last few months to drive out the taliban. the united nations estimates that 2 million people were forced from their homes by that fighting. but as we hear in this next report from deutsche welle, not all are eager to return just yet. >> reporter: most of the displaced have been staying with family or friends, but nearly 300,000 are in tent camps set up by the government. some are now packing their belongings and returning home. >> t

the southern and jab and karachi. would you be willing to terrorizgive you a theory on whe areas would look like, southern and j --southern punjab and karachi? >> i have not seen the thing. but it's been on the table and people have talked about increasing the number of provinces for a long time. it has not gone anywhere as far as political institutions are concerned. but i was hopeful, optimistic on the political thing because we have an elected government now. we have a government in baluchistan with all the ministers being baluch. we had a similar thing in the past, but this time it seems more durable. and we have a fix on the grievance is the other side has. the job opportunities and educational facilities and in terms of loyalties for the gas being pumped from baluchistan, infrastructure development, all those on the table. as the question was here, that you have to do a major reorientation after this kind of insurgency, i think it's the biggest thing the country can get going through a prolonged insurgency. if left unchecked, it can assume some kind of class struggle situation or a major social upheaval in the country. so