the qution, of crse,is did te the sherman act?e grocers here would undoubtedly argue that while they did get together for some casual shop talk, there is no direct evidence that ty agreed to fix prices. that could be an obstacle to the government, because the sherman act does require evidence of an actual agreement to fix prices. >> but horizontal price-fixing occurs when competitors agree, either explicitly or implicitly on what prices they'll offer their goods and services. rties rarely put price-fixing agreements in writing, but courts can infer such agreements by the mere conduct of the parties. >> the conduct could permit such an inference in this case. there was an actual meeting, the prices of the goods were similar, if not identical, and the specials were very similar. on the other hand, the grocers might argue that since prices did not rise, that the evils that the sherman act was designed to prevent have not, in fact, taken place. >> but once competitors stop competing, experience shows that prices do rise in the long ru

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