the state in comparison to that? >> how does ronald reagan and his administration figure into your research? >> reagan was seen as the first truly conservative president, the first one to properly embrace social conservativism as well as pro-free-market policies as well. he was initially seen as a great hope for social conservatives. as i said, soon enough, cynicism set in. lots of historians have written about how reagan reigned rather than ruled, that he was happy to take a backseat approach when it came to policy formation. a that is something i have seen in my research. reagan does not have his fingerprints over social issues. he tended to delegate to certain elements in his administration. that meant their views took on outsized importance. >> your research takes you next to the reagan library. what are you planning to do there? >> there are various papers i wanted to look at related to the policy formation. the public liaisons on how the white house should articulate goals. there are also documents related to a number of figures in the office on policy developed as well. >> what are you

as early as the 60's with the emergence of reagan, or was it close to the time he joined the reagan administration? >> my actual origins were not with reagan but is vice president, george h. w. bush. i was always interested in politics, going back to junior high school. the opportunity to get involved required working in campaigns which in those days was a generally hopeless cause for republicans. therefore, it was a delight to find this young oil man named george bush running for congress on the west side of houston, which drew my time as a campaign volunteer. so i did address envelopes and campaign research. and it was a great throw when he invited me to be an intern on his staff. that led me to go to washington with him. at that time was working as a member of the texas house representatives when the vice president-elect asked me to join his staff in the west wing of the white house. i realized at wa the e i realize that was the end of the active grid in texas politics, so i tortured over the decision for about two-tenths of a second before accepting, resigning my seat, going off to washington.

largely on the thesis itself, next version of social conservative, grassroots movements, the reagan administration, and the ongoing legacy of the rights revolution of the 1980's. >> thank you for joining us on american history tv. >> all weekend, american history cablejoining our comcast partners to showcase the history of colorado springs, colorado. cities, more about the visit www.c-span.org. this is american history tv on c-span3. >> colorado springs is known as a fixed city because of our fantastic climate with nearly 300 days of sunshine a year di. butrrific semiarid climate, also because of great opportunities for outdoor recreation. tremendous trail and park system in which you can spend every day and something equivalent to a national park outside your back door. shortly after settlement in 1871, we became known as a destination for people with tuberculosis. tuberculosis in the 19th century was the leading killer in the united states. it was a disease that affected just about everybody in the country. during the early years of the city's development, really the only treatment that was offe

just very quickly, it happened during the reagan administration. the secretary was the head of the interior department and decided to put up the whole post for sale to the highest bidder. i remember saying what are you doing. i understand you have to sell some of these areas for oil drilling but what about these national treasures, you want to protect them for the future and he said let's make the process work. so that is when we were able to put the legislation together that stopped the process from moving forward and ultimately decide it ultimately but i didn't introduce the legislation to create the national marine sanctuary that protects the area for the future. [applause] >> thank you so much for being here. i am curious about the response and i wondering how do you strike the balance between that which appears effective in delaying the background for the sustainable. >> that is a very good question and the reality is when you are implementing the defense strategy it has to contain a short-term and long-term element. the short term element if w

>> at the time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings and loan crisis. closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had huge problems. doing the huge issues was the right thing, because he would not schedule bills -- they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors, and there would be panic, obviously. that would spread throughout the system. they could pay off the depositors and closed on the institutions, so they had to leave them open. that was big in texas and some other parts of the country. finally, that was dealt with and a lot of institutions were closed. the reconciliation trust things to take up all the bad mortgages and work the system through. a lot of us felt that that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of the whole crisis. but it was not followed and we still have had a lot more pain on the part of the individual home mortgage buyers and in the and in thehe -- economy as a result of them and not lookin

when this church in tucson joined two other churches in oakland and berkeley -- >> the reagan administration, the i.n.s. were saying that to harbor an illegal alien would be a felony. >> reporter: marilyn chilcott and her husband bob mckenzie were both once pastors at st. john's presbyterian church in berkeley and two of the founders of the movement to provide sanctuary for refugees from the civil war in el salvador in the 1980s. >> what you were doing was the right thing to do. >> so i'm glad to see the congregations have once again claimed this. >> reporter: this year alone according to the u.s. border patrol a quarter million people such as this young mother have fled death and rape squads in central america. both this mother and her mother were raped in front of her father. the entire family fled honduras for their lives. >> i want to save my baby's life, and i want to save our life. >> translator: we abandoned our belongs. all of it thrown everywhere. >> reporter: so the family sought sanctuary at a bay area church and remain in hiding living among us in the shadows. >> translator: as a

it was the height of the cold war, and the reagan administration, fearful of communist expansion in central america, supported the military- backed government with arms and financing. 75,000 were killed in the conflict, mostly at the hands of government forces. it's estimated that hundreds of thousands of salvadorans fled their war-torn country, seeking refuge in the united states. >> the mass exodus of salvadorians to flee the conflict down there put a large population of salvadorian immigrants in los angeles. >> reporter: al valdez is a 28- year veteran of the police force in orange county, california, who specialized in undercover field operations and headed the gang investigation unit for the attorney general's office there. he explains that many of these salvadoran families lived in poverty in the rough neighborhoods around downtown los angeles. some of these new immigrants joined latino gangs like 18th street gang and mara salvatrucha 13, or m.s. 13, for both protection and a livelihood. >> kids join gangs as a mechanism to survive. now, granted, your life sucks, but at least you're a

definition of what a monopoly is with the antitrust laws and week, flaccid enforcement ever since the reagan administration. everything has been great and we should be continuing that but you are saying we have a good system and things working well. and people like me think it is time for a change, and we have a serious problem with inequality which is exacerbated by failure of the governments to take action in antitrust. serious action to restrain cable monopolies and the stock market is like time warner comcast and start thinking about what are the day to day costs americans are facing. how is this economy working for normal middle-class people. and we really need to reexamine from the bottom up fins like how we regulate the largest carriers. and how we enforce the antitrust law. we have strong feelings about that and a difference of opinion on this panel. >> are you can disagree with him. >> the internet has gone from being a lucky accident to the network that connects all but net works. it is the functional equivalence of the dial tone of the 21st century. right now there is the kid sitting on the stoo

>> at the time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings-and-loan crisis, which involved closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had a huge problem. it was one of the underlying issues. he would that schedule bills. they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors and there would be panic. that would spread threat the system. he wouldn't schedule bills to provide more money to the insurance so they could pay off the depositors if they close down. they had to keep these institutions open. it was big in texas and some other parts of the country. finally, that was dealt with and some institutions were closed and they set up a reconciliation trust thing to take up all of that. a lot of us felt that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of this whole crisis. it was not followed. we still have a lot more pain on the part of individual home mortgage buyers and the economy as a result of the way it was handled. they didn't l

something -- and by the way, if they could come up with an immigration reform bill like the reagan administration did, that would be something the american people would applaud. anything being done, that was never -- >> and they don't want people to be the -- just stop everything. you already got the label of party of no. what do you want? you want to throw a letter -- >> i'm going to agree with bob that i think achievement is something to be celebrated. and so if you work on a good piece of legislation that is pro-jobs, good for the economy. and then you can't sell that back to your constituents as something good you did, you have a bigger problem. i think everybody after the welfare bill reform was sign in the clinton administration, everyone ran on that as a bipartisan achievement and they were rewarded for it. so i don't think people should be afraid of accomplishing something big. >> i am not saying compromising is bad, i'm saying compromising with president obama is bad. look at things he wanted to compromise on. universal pre school, liberal idea, infrastructure, he said we're not going to

in 1987, the reagan administration announced that even though congress had changed the law, president reagan would do it himts. but the bishops kept pushing. even under the tweaked interpret tagsz of the law, there was still some farely common e common circumstances in which this law could result in naplies being split up. and congress, every after ronald reagan had taken that executive action, congress, again, trying to make another fix of the law. congress took up that law. by then, it was george hw bush he was president. and he decided to take action on his own to extabd e tand e up and down the number of people here illegal le eely in this country would never be spared the dee deportation. if total numb other of people to defer por tagsz was expected by about 40% of what was believed to be the total pop ewe laxz of undocumented imgrants in this country at the time. it's ruly on the same scale. it's goirk to be right in line with the kind of huge, cat gor kal protections by dell poration one of who want is now a saint. sorry, i jumped d kwun. conservative media and the republican p

i looked at when the republicans took over the senate in the start of the eisenhower administration, the start of the reagan administration and in 2002 after the switch. they went from senators in the republican caucus who formerly served in the house, from 20% in the '50s to 32%, one out of three under president reagan to now 50%, cory gardner coming in. the house is a birthplace and cauldron of republican politics. >> that's where you learn your politics. look where ted cruz went for support. we shouldn't be surprised that we see a house style politics in the saucer that's supposed to cool the cup moving forward. we'll have a very house-like senate majority. >> thomas schaller, thank you very much. >>> some of the races i put into the -- what's the technical term, hot mess category went underreported. never fear, we'll fell you in next. >>> so many races, so many results that it was easier to miss the more colorful things in the midterms. we didn't spend time on the new york 11th congressional district considered to be one of the best opportunities for a democratic pickup. why? because a republican repres

in the reagan administration, the joke was they were paying too much now they are sharing one wrenchamong three facilities. how in the world has it come to this? >> you know, it's absolutely amazing, i'm going to put it right at the feet of leadership quite frankly. when i was doing involved in nuclear weapons teams back when i was in the navy, the attention to detail was absolutely astronomical. you couldn't breathe without -- for it to get to the point where just a few years ago the air force flew a b-52 loaded with live nuclear weapons and all of the disciplinary issues that have come out. it's a leadership issue. is there some funding involved? yes, maybe they've been pulling too much money from it but first and foremost it's a leadership issue. >> it was revealed numerous problems in management security, and safety which led to disciplinary actions against a range of our air force personnel from generals to air men. how do you begin to fix this? >> that's where you have to have a major shake-up. you've got to bring in people from the air force and just put new people in charge a

just very quickly, it happened during the reagan administration. he secretary was the head of the interior department and decided to put up the whole post for sale to the highest bidder. i remember saying what are you doing. i understand you have to

. >> the reagan administration, the imf, were saying that the harbor and illegal aliens would be a felony reporter: she and her and two of the founders of the movement to provide sanctuary in the 1980s. >> what you were doing was the right thing to do. >> i'm glad to see the congregation said once again claim this. >> this year alone, a quarter million people, such as this young mother, have fled death and rape squads in central america. both this mother and her mother were raped in front of her father. the entire family fled honduras for their lives. >> i want to place my baby's life and our lives. >> translator: we abandoned our belongings, all of it thrown everywhere. >> reporter: so the family sought sanctuary at a bay area church and remain in hiding living among us in the shadows. >> translator: as a family, we all agree. we'll go to the church to avoid going back to honduras. >> translator: we, we're very scared. >> there are mothers pushing their kids across a river. it's not the nile in egypt, it's the rio grande here. >> reporter: pastor at st. john's presbyterian church. >> wha

the way through congress. ronald reagan took administrative action to expand on that existing policy. in 1987, the reagan administration announced even though congress hadn't changed the law, president reagan would do it himself. he'd make a change himself so that kids couldn't be deported if their parents had obtained legal status. but the bishops kept pushing and advocates kept pushing because even under the tweaked interpretation of the law, even after his executive action there was still fairly common circumstances in which this law still would result in families being split up. and congress, even after ronald reagan had taken that executive action, congress again tried on its own to take up legislation to make yet another fix of a law, wouldn't apply just to kids of people who had been legalized but also account for other immediate family members like spouses. so marriages wouldn't have to be broken up by this law. congress took up that law. thought they'd pass a tweak to it but couldn't get it done in congress. by then it was george h.w. bush who was president and he, too, like r

that was a policy instituted in it the early '90s under the reagan administration. since that time, the republicans have on a federal level depleted funds that budgets from -- funds from the budget that should have gone into public education and into universities throughout the united states causing the universities to become skeletonized which no institution can function, teach without the resources and the financial resources that they need to educate their students. on the state side, having republicans lawmakers coming to the states in the early 1980s again, coming in, depleting our public schools of the funds and budget -- from the budget, the funds and resources that they needed to function, skeletonizing them until they broke them and made them so that our kids today can't possibly receive the same education that they received before the republicans came in in the early '80s. >> a lot there. dr. barchi, do you have -- something you want to weigh in on? >> you have raised a lot of points there. i'm not going to comment on the political aspects and who was in of

the reagan campaign. later to receive an appointment under the reagan administration. phil wound down the campaign and stumped for reagan. a few months later he commented to me, i have not had a bad day since the campaign ended. in 1987 he told me that president reagan always treated him courteously. but seldom sought his input. he believed that the first lady was adverse to him because he sought the nomination in 1980. phil and barry goldwater jr. delivered eulogies at the funeral of my father and mother in 1987 and 2005. both recalled many years of happy times and were most touching. you know better than i phil's legislative contributions, two major successes in which he played a significant part were the bill that legalized ownership of gold by private citizens and the freedom of information legislation. phil was an inspiration to his students, his constituents and many advocates of personal liberty heard his work. his passing represents an irreplaceable loss of knowledge, capability and spirit to our society and all who pursue the idea of liberty. i couldn't put int

officers in the bay area's largest city could soon be lowered to a level not seen since the reagan administration>> we looked at if you report. matt? >>> the san jose police department has taken a big hit over the past several years in staffing levels. they are saying it will only get worse. san jose police department released numbers from a report based on the current attrition and hiring. there are 962 street-ready sworn officers with drops to 9 2015 and then in a few years down to 800 officers because of difficulty in keeping officers and employees in the communications addition. resignations is slowed from the record breaking numbers of 2012 officers are still residing at a rapid rate averaging three or four a month and hiring is not as planned. the goal is to have 45 recruits per academy but the last academy had only 20 graduates after a drop in crime. the police chief is expected to dress the city council later today at the city council meeting of the staffing projections and the crime >>> trading is underway on wall street so we will look at the usually morningings showing the dow is up 26

go back to the reagan administration the last time we were producing that much oil and the rest of thele bit less than usual so the u.s. is producing a lot and that means prices are going down. saudi arabia actually giving some discounts on its oil because american crude is so, was producing so much of it. it's an interesting shift. >> we're saudi-american now. >> it's a real shift. you look at gas prices how they plummeted i have this chart down to $2.90, it's crazy and the american government has been saying next year you can expect gas prices to stay below three bucks all year. >> that's doing a lot of good things for the economy, people have more money to spend especially on cars. >> i know and so we're seeing suvs and big truck sales are starting to spike up. we have a short memory. when gas is cheaper. looks like this is going to be $400 extra in your pocket over the next year, that's real money. the retailers are excited for christmas, the holiday season you'll be spending that extra money on gifts and in their stores, but think if you have a delivery service, if you are a truck

. >> the reagan administration, the ins were saying that to harbor an illegal alien would be a felony reporter: marilyn chilcott and her husband, bob mckenzie, were both once pastors at st. john's presbyterian church in berkeley, and two of the founders to provide sanctuary for refugees of the civil war in el salvador in the 1980s. >> what you were doing was the right thing to do. >> i'm glad to see that the congregation said that we could once again claim this. >> reporter: this year alone, according to the u.s. border patrol, a quarter million people, such as this young mother, have fled death and rape squads in central america. both this mother and her mother were raped in front of her father. the entire family fled honduras for their lives. >> i want to save my baby's lives and i want to save our lives. >> translator: we abandoned our belongings. all of it thrown everywhere. >> reporter: so the family sought sanctuary at a bay area church, and remain in hiding, living among us in the shadows. >> as a family, we all agree. we'll go to the church to avoid going back. >> translator:

. >> i think i licked a stamp -- >> in the reagan administration? eople send me stuff in the mail, all right? >> yes. >> you send letters still? >> if it is like a package or something. >> care package? >> you don't lick stamps any more. they are self adhesive. >> i still lick stamps. >> well take the little thing off. that little thing off the back. it will be a lot better for you. abe and maybe it will stick on the envelope better. >> actually one of the baby checks, broken leg. >> oh, no? >> they're going to heal it all up. >> no, they'll grow up into chickens. >> then what do you did with them around the living room? >> free negatives. >> yes, get free eggs. people do that, you know, that's where eggs come from, you know? >> what came first? >> my mom used to say, you know, you should drop that woman. she not good. and women are like septa buses. there will be another one along in just a few minute. >> rude, isn't it? >> very rude. >> i apologize for moi mother. >> and she apologizes to all of you for having me. >> oh,. >> okay. if quincy still e

the way back to reagan. right? ok, reagan. i don't want to rob you of credit of any of the administrations. [laughter] andrea mitchell you won't know was a longtime correspondent. bashed you all know as a longtime correspondent. she covered the white house and has her own show now. and brook craft is a photographer who was on the beat for ten years for time magazine but has shot photographs for all of your favorite magazines. we are excited to have all four of these folks. i had the chance to talk to all of the panelist in advance and talk about their favorite stories and things that they wanted to discuss. everyone talked about covering the beat meaningfully and how to break out of the pack and not get boxed in by the day to day at the whitehouse. so i want to give them a chance talk about that. we will start with susan. we talked about what a challenge it was for you to do the story that not 50 others were doing but that was something you did on a regular bases. can you talk about that? >> thank you. i am honored to be here and i am not sure you how tell the panelist and audience because

. >> amnesty is what happened during the reagan administration. >> that's correct. >> and no republicanved. >>> stand by. let's continue this conversation. we have a lot more to talk about. the 2016 presidential race. former president george w. bush hopes his brother will run. winning the white house. [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking. feet...tiptoeing. better things than the pain, stiffness, and joint damage of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. before you and your rheumatologist decide on a biologic, ask if xeljanz is right for you. xeljanz (tofacitinib) is a small pill, not an injection or infusion, for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz can relieve ra symptoms, and help stop further joint damage. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers have happened in patients taking xeljanz. don't start xeljanz if you have any infection, unless ok with your doctor. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests an

they had the bush administration. they had the reagan administration, both to come up with a plan.obama has tried to do something to fix our health care crisis and the republicans never had an alternative plan, but they want to attack his. >> you know, michelle, "the new york times" reported this week that business leaders are pretty happy with republicans, but they don't want them to change the health care law. quote, for one thing, many of the insurance exchanges are finally working well. and businesses have adapted to the new landscape. even more important, added demand from the newly insured is likely to increase profits in sectors like hospitals, pharmaceuticals, and medical devices. one banker even added, anything regarding the affordable care act is going to be a stretch. are republicans really going to do something that big business doesn't want, michelle? >> look, the republicans have to make a good show of this. a lot of them were elected by motivating the base with promises of repeal. i've talked to some republican lobbyists recently and they call this a show vote. they'

the way back to reagan, right? okay. reagan. i don't want to rob you of credit for any of the administrations you may have covered. andrea mitchell you all know as a longtime correspondent for nbc. she covered the white house and she now has her own show, which i know all of you watch. and brooks kraft is a distinguished photographer. he was on the beat for ten years for time magazine but also has shot photographs for all of your favorite mags. we're really excited to have all four of these folks. sorry? >> yeah. yeah. that's my new career. >> i'll leave that one alone. [laughter] >> we haven't even started yet. >> we -- i had the chance to talk to all of these panelists in advance of today's event to talk a little bit about some of their favorite stories. even talked about covering the beat meaningfully and how to break out of the pack and how to not get boxed in by the day-to-day at the white house. so i want to give them a chance now to talk about that a little bit. we'll start with susan. we talked -- you and i talked about what a challenge it was for you to get out of -- to do the story that not 50 other peop

you did have a chance, for example, in the reagan administration. went to --ed, if you if he was walking to the photopter or if you did a spread in the oval, he couldn't resistancing your questions usually. >> it was planned. and sam donaldson would bellow out questions at him. to greattaff went lengths. they would tell him before he walked out the door. don'tould say, now, answer any questions. don't say anything. and then bill or sam would say something so provocative, like gaddafi says you're a fool, and couldn't resist that. he would -- [laughter] yeah?ld be like, oh, well, so is he, you know. he would try to meet the insult own.something of his so, i mean -- but that was every friday. regular friday feature of the white house. the reagan years, every friday, he would go to camp david. he would leave about 1:00, 2:00 in the afternoon and fly away. him and try to provoke him into answering a question. had -- you know, i don't have the statistics to back this up, but i have the reagan was more available to the press in the office than his successo

one of the things that folks point out is that when ronald reagan and the last time there was major immigration reform was in the reagan administration and there were 5 million i think at that point up documented folks in the country, and that was that, like okay, now we've taken care of this problem and then what happened was, of course now we're up to 11 million or 1 million, it really depends on who you talk to. what in what the president is doing now, let me put it the other way. doesn't what the president is expected to do, which is to sort of protect some folks from deportation, encourage people to keep coming across the border? >> actually, candy, i think it's going to discourage, and you can take the evidence of what happened over the summer, when we had a lot of young children from central america coming. today that's gone down to a trickle. why? because people back home got the word. you know what? you don't get to stay. why am i going to send a child on a very dangerous journey, paying a lot of money that we don't really have to do something when they're going to come right back. remember that the president, as you outline

kt mcfarland, former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the reagan administration. t, is this good news? >> it is good news today but it is going back and forth. i think we're seeing a beginning after 30-year war in the middle east. you have shiites on one side, that is iran, allied with the iraqi, baghdad, iraqi military which is shiite. on the other hand you have isis and the sunnis. and they're making alliances with al qaeda, with sunni, they're not moderate rebels anymore. they used to be moderate. they're not anymore. you're really seeing a fight between shiites and sunnis, a fight to the finish fueled by arab oil money and i think they keep fighting. >> we have a lot of stuff to cover here. one of the big stories came out al qaeda and also some of the, al nusra front, they're working together along with isis in syria. that spells some real trouble for us. what do we do with that piece of information? >> this is like the mafia has a lot of different families. the families gotten together and they will be one big mafia family, fighting with isis. isis, al qaeda,

can just make the world like us, something reagan never subscribed to, everything would be fine, and we wouldn't have to worry. one of the statements that came out of the reagan administration , was in the early days of the when billministration clinton wanted to commit american ground troops to the albrightand madeleine was very much in favor of that, his secretary of state, and colin powell was still there, a holdover from the reagan years. she famously said to him, if we are not going to use this army, where we spending all of this money on it? colin powell said, madam secretary, we are spending all that money on it so we won't have to use it. that was key to ronald reagan. key used american troops and shed american blood less than any modern american president. the world knew that while america wasn't interested in getting into their affairs and settling all the differences in the world, the world knew also that if you messed with the united states, you have a problem. rand paul has got part of that right, but not the other part. you can't both stand aside and be too weak to act when you need to act. if you remember ronald reagan shortly after coming to power, when the

only that, democrats who controlled the congress at that time, they didn't walk from cooperation with president reagan. in fact, they worked with the reagan administrationher things. as the president said in his press conference the other day, there are going to be things on which we agree and we should get to work and get those done. there will be things on which we disagree. we should debate them and hammer them out and see if we can come to common ground. >> albert: no question he'll do an executive action before christmas? >> he said we'll get it done before the end of the year. >> albert: did any other issues come up or any discussion about whether there may be areas of possible exxon ground, corporate tax refarm or trade? >> those are two examples of things that the president has said we ought to be able to work together on and he obviously leaves tomorrow night for his trip to asian where we're working on the trans-pacific partnership. it's an opportunity for us to not only open new markets but create better important, better paying jobs here at home in the manufacture and export industries. that's one they can they talked about and should contin

i think what we need is something that came to the commission during the reagan administration or the base realignment closing commission during the clinton administration. but an outside group of integrity and former members of congress that come in and do a complete audit of the government from top to bottom every agency of the government, has a charter that created it and has a purpose. if it isn't fulfilling that purpose or isn't doing it within a reasonable budget, it should be cut or eliminated. let's take head start. this came in with the highest motivation. there are now three head start. there's early head start, and handstand regular. why do we have the other two, because the first one wasn't working. this second one wasn't working. the doctor in the heritage foundation has done a tremendous book on this on the social programs that don't work. he has found that by the time a child goes through at these programs is in the fifth grade, all of the benefits that might have accrued in occurred in the first few years of his or her life are gone. usa today had a recent lead editori

we, flaccid enforcement ever since the reagan administration. everything has been great. we should continue that. maybe i am exaggerating. people like me think that there is time for change. we have a serious problem with inequality in this country exacerbated by the failure of the government to take serious action in antitrust, to restrain cable monopolies. to start thinking about what our the day-to-day costs that americans are facing. how is this economy working for normal middle-class people? our existing system has done some good things, has created some wealth, but has failed the middle class. therefore, we need to re-examine from the bottom up rings like how we regulate the largest carriers and how we enforce antitrust law. i have very strong feelings about the theory -- that. i do agree with him. let me just see that the internet has gone from being a lucky accident to the network that connects all the networks. it is the functional equivalent of the dialtone of the 21st century. right now there is a kid sitting on the stoop of a public library branch somewhere in

kt mcfarland, former deputy secretary of defense in the reagan administration. good morning to you. aid moderate rebels armed by u.s. surrendered or defected. moderate fight is on the run headed for turkish borders as extremists closed in. jennifer griffin is trying to nail the story down from the pentagon. they're not accepting the reporting. what do you think? >> matter of time whether in libya, iraq, afghanistan, we pick sides. we get involved and train rebels we like or train moderates or train groups we think will win the fight. they don't win the fight. throw down the weapons and run away and bad guys get the weapons. while we have bonn in the last decade, we tried to topple dictators. we assume what happens afterwards is nation-building, good governance, pro-american democracy. what tends to happen is just the opposite. chaos. groups fighting each other. people seizing american weapons and ultimately using them against us. bill: to the east, reports of mass executions in isis in iraq. while this is happening the vice president was interviewed. here he is on cnn talking about i

because if we go back to the clinton administration, or the reagan administration, or any earlier administrationhat confronted a similar situation like the one we have now where a huge fraction of people who live in the country are formally deportable. half the noncitizens, this is the most important figure to know, half of the noncitizens who live in the united states today are here without legal authorization. when that's the reality, it's not just that executive discretion is permissible. it's that it's inevitable. >> on exactly that point, when we come back i want to hear the president talking about talking just this morning in australia about the absolute necessity as you framed it, and i want to ask you a little bit about this question of discretion, because there's at least at currently in the proposal some high skilled versus low skilled marriages about what sorts of immigrants will be allowed to stay. so, more on that when we come back but first, i want to update you on some breaking news from overnight. a video purportedly released by the militant group isis indicates the death of anot

at the time, ppeople were asking to bring back people from the reagan administration. they try and save some banks. of the underlying issues on not think, because you are scheduled bills -- they could not close down the savings because if they can not pay up the deposits they would be panic. but have to provide more money insurance so they could pay off the deposits is a close. keep business open. finally, that was dealt with and some of these stations were closed. they set up the reconciliation trust. lot of us felt that there was a muddled which was appropriate for the housing site of what it is called crisis. and was as not followed lot of individual mortgage the way it was do not , because they look at what had been dented a few years before. discussion wall street which on wall street problems. they had been engaging in all of these insurance and the like. consulted partly use ing. major lawsuit going was etween greenberg which a great patriot, he believes government violated the constitution. million he's sewing for. may have a chance. in a few minutes we finish.

commission which was the agencies that administered the war on poverty and his job was to do, in the reagan administration, dismantle the agencies they have been hired to ostensibly run. in his memoir, he says after my reelection which of course he won for the united states, to continue my mandate for the new majority which was the majority of what became reagan democrats, southerners and all the rest. and in his march to the right by this guy. >> do you agree? >> i do. he was more conservative than reagan. >> he didn't have the heart for equality that reagan did. >> things like epa, he would tell, on the tapes he would talk to somebody like ehrlichman who would be active in these moderate if not progressive domestic policies where he had no interest in them, just don't get me in trouble politically and do what you want to. he has no interest in these. >> he calls domestic politics the outhouses in peoria. he is politically cynical, he supported what became known as affirmative action in the philadelphia plan and the reason he supported it is he thought it would be great to get democratic unions and democ

time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings-and-loan crisis, which involved closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had a huge problem. it was one of the underlying issues. he would that schedule bills. they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors and there would be panic. that would spread threat the system. he wouldn't schedule bills to provide more money to the pay offe so they could the depositors if they close down. they had to keep these institutions open. texas and some other parts of the country. with andthat was dealt some institutions were closed and they set up a reconciliation trust thing to take up all of that. felt that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of this whole crisis. it was not followed. onstill have a lot more pain the part of individual home mortgage buyers and the economy as a result of the way it was handled. they didn't look what had been done just a few years before. these

and the only good times this country ever experienced, really good times, has been during the reagan administration and the presidents that lived off of his successes with the influence of newt gingrich, mainly bill clinton. your ideas of all these immigrants coming in here and making things and the door for them and allowing them to be happy, there are all types of unemployed americans that would like the jobs that they have. and they don't deserve to have those jobs. they have no right to those jobs. i walk down the street. i am retired of course but sometimes i get bored watching grass grow. there are a couple restaurant jobs i would take in a nanosecond were it not for immigrants, illegal immigrants working those jobs. that is the problem. you got a lot of people willing to work those low-paying jobs you call them. they are good jobs for retired people. they subsidize a pension that your president has managed with his q e 1, q e 2 and q e 3 programs diminished the value of their pension to where it is pocket change. >> guest: i disagree with you. first of all on the pension issue if you have mo

at the time some more asking that we call in people from the reagan administration who have dealt with the savings and loan which involved closing a large number of banks. it is one of the underlying issues, because he wouldn't schedule bills. they couldn't closed on the savings and loan's that were theyvent, because if couldn't pay the depositors there would be panic, and it would spread throughout the system. they wouldn't provide more money so they could pay off the depositors. they have to keep these institutions open. finally that was dealt with, and a lot of institutions were closed, and they set up a take upidation trust to the bad mortgages and work the system through. a lot of us felt that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of this whole crisis, but it was not followed, more on thea lot part of individual home mortgage buyers and the way it was handled because they didn't look at what had been done just a few years before. let's go to macro. >> they were focusing on wall street's problems and the fact they were engaging in all of these insurance contracts. a