the rebel militias that vanquished his forces are not eager to give up power to a united army. ile the street to remarkably and save today -- remarkably calm and safe today, there are prisoners of war with no courts to try the men. but that is for tomorrow. today is about celebration. >>> meanwhile, the other major development in the middle east -- president obama announced this friday that virtually all american troops will be leaving iraq at the end of the year. thank you for joining us. there were lots of topics this week. let's start with iraq. the president announced troops withdrawn from iraq. we know there will be some presence of contract workers and advisers and what not. but what is the significance of this announcement? >> it is important politically. this war has been unpopular. it will be a feather in president obama is cap that he was able to appear as if he is living up to the campaign promise he made in 2008, to have all trips gone by the end of 2011. it also has political implications for republicans who will use it to criticize him and suggest that he is perilo

. >> of libya also depends on these men, the rebel militia. they are looking for the remnants of gaddafi's regime. the rebels could become a volatile kyl an unpredictable factor. achieving democracy will not be easy after 42 years of dictatorship. >> for the first time, we feel like this is our country, we are libyans. freedom for libya. >> libya has an enormous economic potential. that has the ninth largest oil reserves in the world. before the war, there were thriving industries outside of the town. the conflict has turned that area into a ghost town. that is not stopping some businessmen from getting back to work to bring the city back to life. >> he knows that there are tough times ahead. he is a businessman that has been celebrating gaddafi's death. he wants to start rebuilding the city that he defended. >> i was holed up in a building in the street. i was lucky to have a kalashnikov. many did not have a weapon to defend themselves. >> he takes us to the industrial zones on the outskirts of the city. 300 companies operate in this area. he

the rebel militias that vanquished gadhafi's forces are not eager to give up power to a united army. large parents of the steps of misrata and sirte were destroyed. and while today the streets are remarkably calm and safe, gadhafi left this oil-rich country with only the most basic of education, health care and police. there are 7,000 prisoners of war, but no courts to try them in. they will have to build everything from scratch. but that is for tomorrow. today is about celebratincelebr. tomorrow, the clock starts ticking on the move to democracy and elections. the interim president said today, they want to build a democracy based on islamic or sharia law. it's not clear exactly how they'll do that or what it will look like. david? >> jeffrey, thank you. and jeffrey, as you know, right next door to libya, history in tunisia. millions of tunisians filled with pride lined up to vote in the first democratic elections there. among those casting the ballot, the mother of the fruit vendor who touched off a domino effect in the region, so oppressed he set himself on fire in protest. so, toda

the rebel militia that vanquished gadhafi's forces are not eager to give up power to a united army. rge parts of the city of sirte were destroyed in the revolution and while streets are calm and safe, gadhafi left this oil-rich country with only the most basing of education, health care and place. there are 7,000 prisoners of war but no courts to try them in. they will have to build everything from scratch. now the clock starts ticking towards democracy. first, a constitutional assembly. then free elections. libya's interim president said they want the democracy to be islamic based, it is not clear how they will do that or what it will end up looking like. jeffrey kaufmann, abc news, tripoli. >> what a surreal scene it is to see people going into that room to take pictures of gadhafi's dead body. one man said, now i'm satisfied he is dead. this guy was a brutal dictator for 42 years. the end of a tyrant. end of a dictator. we are so happy to see that. >> stunning reversal there. hard to reconcile. you understand their relief at being rib rated. -- liberated. at the same time, to go,

spoken to on the street is convinced that khaddafy was caught this morning and killed in the course of rebel militia men taking sirte. it has been a long haul for these men. the uprising started eight months ago. they captured tripoli two months ago but this was the moment they were all waiting for. we're still hoping they can get some final confirmation. it has been unfortunately uncharacteristic that they haven't been quite as organized as they would like to be in confirming the reports that we're hearing. >> when you say chaotic, there have been some reports and we've seen other video of celebrations. the word clearly has gotten around. >> reporter: oh, yes. word definitely got around. it was very quiet in misrata this morning when we got out. we figured they would be the first people to know but there was no word. there was no gunfire. no celebration. when we set out for sirte the highway was completely empty but gradually as we approached there were a lot more cars ap people started saying that khaddafy has been caught, that sirte had indeed fallen p a few rebel militia men showed us video that

all the former rebel towns now have armed militias. if they don't expand, it is a recipe for a failed state. they're forming a new national security force. but can the men stick together in the tough times that are inevitable as libya emerges from 42 years of dictatorship. no one wants to think too hard about that yet. this city has barely started its honeymoon. if anyone is morning the colonel, they're keeping very quiet about it. >> gaddafi is a criminal. >> and the future for libya? >> freedom. >> freedom means the national transitional council keeping its promise to hold elections within two years. yet another march was held in the square today, remembering the dead. highly controversial. democracy means learning how to disagree peacefully and libya has no tradition of that. the walls of colonel gaddafi's compound are being razed. building in the country can be painful and difficult. a lot of egyptians and to nations are worried that even though they got -- tunisians are worried that even if they got rid of the man at the top, those

all the formal -- former rebel towns now have armed militias. if they did not disband, that is usually the recipe of a failed state. they are forming a national security force, but can men who all believe their town led the fight stick together in the tough times that are inevitable as libya emerges from 42 years of dictatorship? no one wants to think too hard about that yet. this euphoric city has barely started its post-gaddafi honeymoon period and was mourning the colonel in the ruins of his compound, they have been very quiet about it. >> gaddafi is a criminal, not man. >> the future for libya? >> freedom. >> freedom? >> freedom libya. freedom libya. >> freedom means the national transitional council keeping its promise to hold elections within two years. yet another march was held in markets where today, remembering the death. democracy means learning how to disagree peacefully, and libya has no tradition of that sort of politics. the wars of -- the walls of colonel gaddafi's compound have been raised -- razed. the body found out that buildi

she had spoken to us 30 minutes ago, sharing with us how the celebrations in the streets were evident, militia men from rebels coming over to show her pictures as she made her way to misrata, just arriving and hearing more gunfire in the air. we're going to try to get her back on the phone. we lost contact for a second. if we can, we'll have her here on msnbc as we continue to watch the developments coming out of libya. luck? i don't trade on luck. i trade on fundamentals. analysis. information. i trade on tradearchitect. this is web-based trading, re-visualized. streaming, real-time quotes. earnings analysis. probability analysis: that's what opportunity looks like. it's all visual. intuitive. and it's available free, wherever the web is. this is how trade strategies are built. tradearchitect. only from td ameritrade. welcome to better trade commission free for 60 days when you open an account. and today, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspirin. it has microparticles so it enters the bloodstream faster and rushes relief right to the site of your tough pain.

defections of libyan officials early on, gadhafi turned the might of the military, including the militias run by his sons, against the rebels, the people against him. the rebels did not have skills or training to fight very hard no matter how hard they wanted to fight, no matter how much they were willing to sacrifice. >> another rebel showed me he isn't actually armed at all. it is a s a toy gun. this is amazing. he just handed me his gun. it is actually just made of plastic. it is a toy. >> rebels have no communications, no commanders. but they do have weapons. artillery, even surface to surface rockets but no idea how to use them. >> faced with the likely and promised prospect that gadhafi's military would destroy the city of benghazi in libya. the united states agreed it take part in but not lead a military mission to essentially take the rebel's side. the united nations authorized to protect libya's civilians which meant protecting civilians from gadhafi. those president obama pledged repeatedly that united states would just be one player in an ensemble effort, in fact, the u.s. was in the lead. especially in the first

the compound is guarded by fighters that say proudly that they are from a rebel town and have armed militias. if they don't expands, it is a recipe for a failed state. they're forming a national security force. they believe their town led the fight, a domestic together during the tough times that are inevitable? no one wants to think too hard about that yet. this city has barely started the honeymoon. if anyone is morning the colonel in the ruins of his compound, they are keeping quiet about it. >> double. gaddafi double, criminal. >> and the future for libya? gosh freedom libya. a freedom libya. >> and freedom means the national transitional council keeping the promise to hold elections within two years. yet another march was held in the square today, remembering the dead. democracy means learning how to disagree peacefully at libya has no tradition of that sort of politics. the walls of colonel gaddafi's compound are being razed. they've found out the building in the country can be painful and difficult. >> a lot of people are worried that even though they got rid of the man at the top, im

assistance with training to try to help rebuild the libyan army and help some of the rebels gain control of some of the militiasng there in libya. >> chris, thanks. the death of a dictator, a tyrant, that's how gadhafi's device is being described around the world. in one particular headline and photo is pretty graphic. zain? >> kira, let's go straight to the headlines and see what they are saying today. "the sun" newspaper, a tabloid in the u.k. says that's for lockerbie, gadhafi and does have a gruesome picture of the former leader on front page. it says he called liberal people rats when he rose up against him but he died like one himself. yesterday after being cornered in a stinking drain. gulf news, he refused to see the writing on the world. the violent end in sirte was inevitab inevitable. the war is all but over, gadhafi is gone. now begins the real battle for all lib yanz. and that battle is going to be a successful reconstruction, how to move forward and reconcile all of the divisiveness that exists between the different tribes and internally within the ntc between the liberals and the islamists. one b

the rebels are. i heard earlier there are 28 different militias in charge of tripoli. so i know there are billions of frozen assets that belong to the libyan people but who do you give them to? you don't know what relationship the people have with al qaeda or the muslim brotherhood. is, you have to be real careful. >>neil: how does your family, your extended family feel today? >>guest: i are not had a chance to talk to many of them. myself, i'm numb. i, when bin laden was killed and saddam, i was ecstatic, i went down, we lost 11 people in my town on 9/11 and bin laden was killed i brought flowers to the memorial and i went to the grocery store today, it just was a different feeling. i didn't specific, i thought i would be everjoined but i am kind of numb. numb. >>neil: hang in there. more after that. smartphones, laptops, tablets, mobile hotspots. but not all 4g is created equal. among the major carriers, only verizon's 4g network is 100% lte, the gold standard of wireless technology. and while other carriers may have limited lte coverage, verizon is the largest lte ne

the air and by and large they're paying heed. getting the militias to hand in their guns, however, will be another matter. scott? >> pelley: allen, thank you very much. with qaddafi gone, there is a rebel government that will try to establish itself, but is there hope for establishing democracy from the ashes of that dictatorship? we asked elizabeth palmer in tripoli to look at what comes next. >> reporter: a day after qaddafi's death, the roads leading to tripoli's central square were jammed with jubilant citizens heading down to join the party, frankly delighted that qaddafi's dead no matter who killed him. >> we don't care if he was executed? he deserved that. >> i think it's the perfect way. >> reporter: this is a night to celebrate the end of months of bloodshed and fighting. people know there is a pen potentially dangerous political power struggle ahead but right now they don't want to think about it. their country's been run since february by the interim transitional national council, an unlikely coalition of academics, businessmen, and even in the case of its chairman a former qaddafi justice minister, mustafa abdel jalil. the regime may be gone now says gene cretz, the ambassa

the hands of? that was a point that mrs. clinton made over and over and over again. these militias have to get under control. these militias, these rebels, there has to be some unifying factor. someone in charge. and to figure out who exactly they are. gwen: so doyle, does that mean that the u.s. is part of that? or is the jurks just wash its hands and nato -- or is the u.s. just wash its hands and nato? >> what the part of the it is the question. there are proposals for mill tar advisors, trainers, for somebody to get on the ground and help the national transitional council which is supposed to become a government and move to tripoli and never quite does that. get its arms around this problem of 100 different militias holding 100 different neighborhoods in libya. the libyans have even said they'll pay for it if we send trainers. i don't detect an awful lot of appetite in the sbome administration to put -- in the obama administration to put boots on the ground in libya even as military advisors after spending so much time saying we're not going to have boots on the ground. my guess is there will be british or french boots on the ground.

the hands of? that was a point that mrs. clinton made over and over and over again. these militias have to get under control. these militias, these rebels, there has to be some unifying factor. someone in charge. and to figure out who exactly they are. gwen: so doyle, does that mean that the u.s. is part of that? or is the jurks just wash its hands and nato -- or is the u.s. just wash its hands and nato? >> what the part of the it is the question. there are proposals for mill tar advisors, trainers, for somebody to get on the ground and help the national transitional council which is supposed to become a government and move to tripoli and never quite does that. get its arms around this problem of 100 different militias holding 100 different neighborhoods in libya. the libyans have even said they'll pay for it if we send trainers. i don't detect an awful lot of appetite in the sbome administration to put -- in the obama administration to put boots on the ground in libya even as military advisors after spending so much time saying we're not going to have boots on the ground. my guess is there will be british or french boots on the ground.

the court have faced criticism for ineffectiveness. in this excerpt, he opens a case in 2009 against a rebel leader in the democratic republic of congo accused of using child soldiers in his militiarry stevens is the filmmaker and also narrates the film. a warning: this excerpt contains graphic images. >> -- killed millions of people. we say never again. but that's not true. it happened again and again. then in 1998 a new idea. there will be no more impunity for massacre, genocide, crimes against humanity. the international court will step in when the states do nothing, -- >> but how can a prosecutor in one court in the hague bring justice to a violent world? january 20009. moreno ocampo has been on the job now for five years. and he has finally ready to start his first trial. the global court's jail is holding just four prisoners. all are african. the man about to go on trial was arrested by the democratic republic of congo. a militia leader named thomas lubanga, he's charged with using child soldiers. >> can we start? >>. >> the prosecutor does a last rehearsal with icc lawyers. >> hundreds of children still suffer the consequence of lubanga's crimes. they cannot forget what th

the rebel stronghold, rebel dominated city. still no complete confirmation apart from the prime minister's announcement that they have caught and killed gadhafi. we've been talking to a number of militia men who have been making their way also from sirte to misrata, many of whom seem to have souvenirs already. there's a group right now just standing near us who claim to have a ring and a hat that belong to gadhafi. earlier, we saw a vehicle that reportedly carried the body of the united states who was wup of gadhafi's senior commanders. and there was also an ambulance that drove by and reportedly had the body of moammar gadhafi's son. so there is definitely a lot of evidence here on the ground to support the announcement, of course. and a sense of overwhelming jubilation. that is one thing we've been able to report with certainty is this feeling that they've now arrived at a moment of history, and they can finally open up the next chapter. >> nbc's adrienne mong reporting as she travels from sirte to the rebel stronghold of misrata. thank you so much. thanks to the gentlemen on the panel. we're going to keep you around for a little while, if you don't mind. and just once again, to sho

i think they want to do the right thing, but they've got a bunch of armed militias, people a few months ago were running a bakery are now rebelwith guns. you've got to convince these folks to come under some sort of a national government. that i si -- so i think they're trying to do that, and it's in our national interests to help them do that. we have an opportunity in the arab/muslim world to have a pro-american ally in libya, one that also happens to be democratic. it's not a guarantee, it's not going to be easy. we can't do everything for them, they've got to do most of it themselves, but there are things we can do to help, and i think today opens the door for the next chapter in that story. martha: boy, that is the operational phrase there, things we can do to help because president obama was criticized for getting involved in this in the first place, then criticized for what was called leading from behind on this issue. no doubt the white house will take some form of credit for what has happened here because, you know, they got together a group of nations, got nato involved in the all of this. what do you think of the w

decided to form a militia with captains in each town and the captain selected ethan allen as colonel, commandant and he was paid a salary. so he is one of the first paid american rebels. for four years, the green mountain boys held off the new york sheriffs and drove out and he would be new york settlers. now how they did it today, you might not approve of completely. you could call it vigilante is the more he could call it terrorism. it depended. the first time they visited you, if you try to start a farm within new york deed, they took your fences down at night. and the livestock just one into your garden and into your fields. that would be enough for most people to say this is an going to work. if it didn't do the job, the next time they came and they take took your barno part. and if you are still there, they took the roof off of your house. the true the line it earning. i found no evidence that they ever set fire but every time they did it, more would be new york settlers went back to albany and swore out affidavits so there is a vast record of these atrocities or defense movements, however you want to characterize them, the showing of these claims so that in fo

the rebel t.n.c. government is overwhelmingly popular and would be elected. next we have to unify military authority with the new rebel government. we were briefed that there are 28 separate militias in tripoli. we should unify military command under them to make sure that any sectarian violence does not break out with the victory that has come at hand. libya is a unique country which does not need foreign assistance from the united states. we've seized $3 4 billion of their dollars, over $100 billion is seized worldwide. they need assistance, medical backup, training for their army, support for their elections. but they can pay for it all. one thing they asked that we should spry hospital ship. u.s.s. comfort should be allowed to go to libya to care for those who were wounded in this battle. we were told 25,000 citizens of libya died in this revolution. 60,000 were wounded. the united states should help care for them, and the libyan government should reimburse us for that effort. when we look to the future, we also have a couple of key challenges. we were briefed at qadhafi's chemical weapons stockpile -- that qadhafi's chemical weapons stockpile is secure, and i think it is, but