let's do first the sa-11. take to myrtle beach me how to do this? there is just point and shoot kind of simplicity. if you want an actual train crew. >> if i really wanted to do. this i'm trying to think. i'm trying to get whether the russians had to go in and teach and train people or whether it's an easy train. >> no, it's not going to be that easy. it's going to be several weeks. i would think just a rudimentary level. increased sophistication of software does take some of the burden off the individual. still orientation of the weapon system. interacting with the computer systems. and all of your screensz and scopes, et cetera. to understand what it is telling you. and then being able to actually lock on with your power control radar system launch the missiles. this is not a simple matter. and i just don't believe that it's a militia group that stomach neld upon an sa 11 and decided to put it into action. >> al, were you ever afraid when you flew over those areas. at 33,000 feet don't you feel pretty safe ge

detected the launch of an sa-11 missile from rebel-controlled territory. the ukrainian military also has the sa-7, but the assessment says we are confident no ukrainian air defense systems were within range of the crash. that leaves russia as the sole suspect. david martin, cbs news, the pentagon. >>> fire crews in washington state are hoping that cooler temperatures and lighter winds today will help them battle wildfire. the biggest fire in north central washington has burned 370 square miles and destroyed 150 homes. washington's governor took a tour of some of the areas damaged by the fire. >> this is a very active fire. it is extremely dangerous. that firestorm hit us like a rolling ball of thunder coming down the hill. >> we've got 7 million washingtonians who stand with them and are in their thoughts and prayers right now. >> the governor promised people the state would help them rebuild their homes. >>> people in the philippines are cleaning up after typhoon rammasun killed at least 18 people. the strongest storm in 18 years carried winds up to 130 mi

the ukrainian military also has the sa-11. ut the assessment says we are confident no ukrainian air defense systems were within range of the crash. that leaves russia as the sole suspect. elaine? >> david martin at the pentagon, thank you. >> with russia the target of so many allegations, we turn next to clarissa ward in moscow. clarissa, has there been any response to the russian government to the mounting evidence of their involvement? >> good evening, elaine. well, tonight we're hearing that russian president putin in an earlier conversation with the british prime minister david cameron, cautioned against, quote, politicizing this tragedy until an investigation has been carried out. he also blamed the incident on the current unrest in ukraine. this really echoing the limited statements that we've already heard from president putin. and what's interesting to note, elaine, is that on russian tv stations today and this evening, we have not seen anything about secretary kerry's earlier remarks blaming russia essentially for this

says could well be the sa-11 missile launcher that shout down the airline. it adds up to an overwhelming circumstantial case implicating russia. >> there's an enormous amount of evidence, even more than i documented, that points to the involvement of russia in providing these systems. >> an intelligence website said a convoy of 150 vehicles crossed from russia into ukraine last monday. they recorded pro-russian rebels to having the system. at the same time on thursday the airline went down. they detected the launch of an sa-11 missile from rebel-controlled territory. the ukrainian military also has the sa-7, but the assessment says we are confident no ukrainian air defense systems were within range of the crash. that leaves russia as the sole suspect. david martin, cbs news, the pentagon. >>> fire crews in washington state are hoping that cooler temperatures and lighter winds today will help them battle wildfire. the biggest fire in north central washington has burned 370 square miles and destroyed 150 homes. washington's governor took a tour of some of the

the senior intelligence officials say the sa-11 likely came from this base in southwestern russia as part of a build-up of rebel force nozz recent weeks after they suffered sed backs at the hands of the ukrainian military. u.s. intelligence was not aware of sa-11s until the day of the shootdown, when it detected a surface to air missile launch at the same time the airliner disappeared from radar. photos of the records show pitting intelligence officials said was consistent with shap flel from an exploding war head. shortly after a known rebel leader was overheard reporting "we have just shot down a plane." the next day, this video of an sa-11 launcher missing one of its missiles and loaded on the back of a flatbed truck appeared on social media. it was supposedly taken near the border with russia as the missile was being shipped back to russia. one intelligence official called it a solid case that russia provided the missile used to shoot dune the airliner, but it is not air tight. among other things, this official said, we do not know who pulled the trigger. >> pelley: david martin a

those are the sa-11 missiles. if it was ansa-11, it shows the white house and state department and dod were noticing that these buk missiles were moving into the rebel territory, that their defense firm should cut it out. it is very significant it was one of eight defense firms targeted for sanctions less than 24 hours before this plane went down. >> jennifer, thank you. we will have the latest on this malaysia airlines shootdown. (vo) ours is a world of passengers. the red-eyes. (daughter) i'm really tired. (vo) the transfers. well, that's kid number three. (vo) the co-pilots. all sitting... ...trusting... ...waiting... ...for a safe arrival. introducing the all-new subaru legacy. designed to help the driver in you... ...care for the passenger in them. the subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis them. was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humiradalimumab. humira helps to clea

the pentagon cannot confirm this is the actual sa-11 used in the strike. of its four missiles appear to have been fired. >> whether it was russian military unit that did it or it was a separatist unit that did it, we don't know. whether it was a system that was driven across the border by russians and then handed off, we don't know. we just don't know. >> nato supreme ally commander general phillip breedlove warned on june 30th from the pentagon podium that the u.s. had evidence that the russian military was training the separatists on how to use vehicle borne anti-aircraft weapons similar to the type used to bring down the malaysian plane. >> what we see in training on the east side of the border is big equipment, tanks, apcs, antiaircraft capability. now we see those capabilities being used on the west side of the border. >> reporter: to the ukraine side of the border. the pentagon did not dispute general breedlove's assessment that the russians have been training the separatists on antiaircraft systems. >> i don't know exactly what system he was referri

officials said the separatists could not have fired an sa 11 surface to air missile by themselves. >> because of the technical complexity of the sa 11 it's unlikely the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. thus we cannot rule out technical assistance from russian personnel in operating the systems. >> it's a sophisticated piece of technology. and it is strange credulity it could be used by separatists without some measure of russian support and being the assistance. >> reporter: three weeks ago nato supreme allied commander warned russians were training separatists to use sophisticated anti-aircraft weapons. >> what we see training on the east side of the border is big equipment, tanks, a pcs, anti-aircraft capability. and now we see those capabilities being used on the west side of the border. >> reporter: in separatist controlled ukraine, u.s. defense officials said they have no reason to doubt the authenticity of the intercepted phone calls released last night by the ukrainian government in which rebel commanders claimed

and the sa-11 is not a heat-seeking missile. the operator picks a target and the miss the sees the reflection of energy off the skin of the airplane, locking on the middle of the aircraft, the most vulnerable part. >> and steve, a lot of questions on whether the black boxes were recovered. and the tug of war over who will analyze them. but you made the point, investigators are in surge of something else that is more telling. >> that's right, david. it's important to know that the black box will probably only tell us that was a perfectly good airplane right up to the second of impact. what's more important is to get forensic scientists out to the crash scene. look at how the missile hit the airplane, and look at the explosive residue. and who shot the missal and who needs to be accountable. >> all right, my thanks to you both. tonight, we turn to the faces and the families on board. prayer vigils like this one in kuala lumpur tonight. and the american, a young man on the way to enjoy a family vacation. we also saw this today. thre

. >> reporter: senior western officials tell me they believe this video shoes the sa 11 missile launcher bring down the malaysian plane missing two of the four missiles and shoes the launcher heading to the russian border at dawn yesterday. u.s. officials believe they have pinpointed the launch site for the missile that brought it down in ukraine. they believe that the sa 11 buk missile was brought across the border from russia and since the malaysian plane went down. russia separatist are trying to hide it. they believe the launcher is likely back over the border in russia further u.s. intelligence think they have evident that the former russian military cornell who is leading the separatist movement over saw the strike. 20 minutes after the plane went down one of his lieutenants is heard talking to a military officer in phone intercepts. u.s. officials are conducting voice recognition and believe the audio to be auntentic. >> we just shot down the plane. that was miner's group and fell down. >> pilots, where are the pilots? >> set off the search for the shot down plane. a plume of smok

the ukrainians do have sa-11 systems in their inventory. however, we are not aware of any ukrainian systems in the area of the shootdown, and since the beginning of this crisis, ukrainian air defenses have not fired a single missile despite several alleged violations of their airspace by russian aircraft. this also follows a pattern of actions by russian backed separatists. on june 13, separatists shot down the ukrainian transport plane carrying 40 para troopers and nine crew. on june 24, we received word the separatists down to the ukrainian helicopter, killing all nine on board. on july 14, separatists claimed credit for the downing of the ukrainian military cargo planes. on july 16, they claimed credit for the downing of a ukrainian fighter jet. if indeed russian backed separatists were behind this attack on a civilian airliner, they and their backers would have good reason to cover up evidence of their crime. thus, it is extremely important that investigation be commenced immediately. in the first instance, the osce special monitoring mi

in fact they say the sa-11 buk missile was brought across the border from russia in recent weeks. since the malaysian plane went down, russian-backed separatists have been frantically trying to hide it. u.s. officials now believe the launcher is likely back across the border in russia. further, u.s. intelligence analysts now think they have evidence that this local commander ordered the strike just 20 minutes after the plane went down. igor bezler is overheard talking to a russian military intelligence officer in phone intercepts released by the ukraine government. u.s. officials are conducting voice recognition and believe the audio to be authentic. >> translator: we have just shot down a plane. that was miner's group. it fell down outside enakievo. >> pilots, where are the pilots? >> translator: set off to search for the shot down plane. >> how many minutes ago. >> about 30 minutes ago. >> that surface-to-air missile had to come from russia. the training provided to operation that surface-to-air missile system most likely came from russia. >> that was u.s. defense secretary chuc

and the sa-11 is not a heat-seeking missile. the operator picks a target and it sees the reflection of the energy off of the skin of the airliner, and locks on. >> and steve, a lot of questions on whether the black boxes were recovered. but you made the point, investigators looking for something that may be even more telling. >> well, it's important to note that the black box will only tell us it was a perfectly good airplane right up until the point of impact. we need to get investigators to the crash scene, looking for clues like explosive residue or fragments. we're looking for who should be accountable. >>> tonight, we turn to the faces of the families onboard. and to the american, a young man on the way to a family vacation. and three children saying good-bye to their parents with their grandfather. lama hasan with the stories behind the pictures tonight. >> reporter: emerging tonight, the faces and stories of those 298 souls lost onboard flight mh-17. we now know there was at least one american onboard. quinn lucas schansma

made isf the point she that the ukrainians do have sa 11 systems in their inventory, we are not aware of any m in the area of the shootdown. as a contextual example, and we need to see the investigation see itself through. that is relevant information. >> is that assessment which ambassador powers included in her remarks, is that taking into account what the russian defense ministry as saying? about these other origin points? >> i think she is stating what we are aware of it this time it. these events are just over 24 hours old. we are going to focus on seeing the investigation through. >> last question. the president kept using the phrase in his remarks today -- we have confidence in saying that. as you know, that is kind of a term of art. this confidence that the united origin pointat the was rebel held ukrainian territory, is that high confidence? >> i am going to leave it where the president of the united states stated it. no surprise. again, there is a range of information. as you noted in your question, we have available, that we don't always speak about publicly. i believe that

this is a front line russian capability, the sa-11 or it's derivative, the sa 17 very powerful and capable with a significant warhead. as this airplane was hit today, it came down in multiple pieces and it was actually ten miles of distance between where you saw that fire ball in the video and where there were other pieces that were not burned landed. so very powerful, very deliberate. this couldn't have been an accident. >> you can see the video of those missiles. you're a pilot yourself. would the pilot in that cockpit or the passengers on the plane have any idea a missile like this was headed their way? >> if you flew a tactical airplane, a fighter, you would have gear on board saying you're being locked on by an sa right now. this is an airliner, they would have no reason to believe they were going into a combat zone. there was a cloud layer underneath. they had no reason to look out the window. only in their worst nightmares would they think that as missile was coming up. they didn't know what hit them. >> stephen, thank you as always. >>> in amsterdam where the jet took off, a horrif

. >> separatists were spotted hours before the incident, with an sa-11 system at a location close to e plane came down. >> reporter: at the same time today, ukraine released this footage. it says shows the actual russian-made sa-11 missile launcher that brought down the plane, near the scene, right before the strike. u.s. officials believe the rebels shot down a cargo plane earlier in the week. but hit the wrong plane on thursday because they did not fully understand how to use the sa-11 system. >> they made a mistake. and shot down what they thought was another ukrainian cargo plane. >> reporter: according to phone calls intercepted by ukraine, a separatist militant first reported the plane had been shot down. are there any weapons, the person asks. nothing at all. civilian belongings. medical scraps. towels. toilet paper. told that the wreckage made clear it was a malaysian airliner. another person answers -- well, then it was bringing spies. why were they flying? there's a war going on. in fact, that's a question many are asking now in the wake of the tragic incident thursday. at t

the sa-11 system we see here is being responsible for bringing this aircraft down. when the sa-11, when it gets close to the target, it explodes a war head that sends out a big fan that goes and impacts with little pieces of very hot metal into the airplane that it is tracking. >> it explodes away from the plane but sends a spray of shrapnel into it. >> that's right. we've seen some evidence on the ground of that today. we see pictures that appear to show some of the damage that comes from these hot little pieces of metal that will puncture the skin and go into the airplane. looks very much like shrapnel damage. >> a quick question about the black boxes that have now been turned over. can they be pen traetrated with anybody knowing? >> there are seems on them, diane. the trained investigators are look and make sure the seals aren't broken. even if somebody were able to get inside, they can't change what is recorded on the programs. so, i think we'll be pretty confident to know if it's been tampered with or not. >> all right, stephen ganyard, thank you so much. >>> a

because of the technical complexity. sa 11, it is unlikely the separatist could have operated without assistance from knowledgeable personnel and we can't rule out russian personnel from operating the systems. >> reporter: so not ruling out the russians but implying they played a role and advising the rebels on how to fire. where is the next step. you have president putin calling for a ceasefire. that is tough to do in an inflamed emotional state. we could see more fighting especially in the city of donetsk. back to you. other questions are surfacing now that are straightforward. are we safe in the skies today? here is the current map of flights over europe. you can see planes avoiding much of ukraine particularly in the eastern part of the country. this is a former pilot and engineer and joins us now with hopefully perspective. it is a scary story when you see so many innocent people killed in a senseless way. are we safe today to fly? >> we are not safe from lunatics that get their hands on technical equipment that perfor

the incident. >> i understand that. i just wanted to note that if that sa levens were some of the things that were sent in over the past two months -- >> if there is more information to share publicly, we will make that available. >> i know you were still trying to determine exactly what happened. regardless of whether he came from the russian side of the border or he came from one of the separatists, that you feel the russia has a responsibility here. whether they gave them the ravens -- weapons, they have operatives that did it, or whether they gave them the weapons and an instruction manual. >> that is not at all what we said. they laid out specific details of the events that we have seen happening on the ground. all of that is important context. we are not going to prejudge the outcome of the investigation. certainly, aside from the specific tragic event, we have concerns about a range of the steps that they were outlined, including providing access to weapon systems, providing materials to the separatists. we will see the investigation through before w

the ukrainians do have sa-11 systems in their inventory. however, we are not aware of any ukrainian systems in the area of the shootdown, and more importantly, since the beginning of this crisis, ukrainian air defenses have not fired a single missile despite several alleged violations of their airspace by russian aircraft. .

the sa-11 is a sophisticated, radar-guided, surface-to-air missile system. it goes up as far as any airliner could ever fly. >> we get to the question though -- would the -- it's hard to imagine that anyone would want to deliberately shoot down a civilian aircraft. can't this missile system distinguish between a civilian and a military aircraft? >> the sa-11 can tell if it's a russian airplane or a nonrussian airplane. they saw a blip. locked on to it. said it's not russian. pull the trigger. what we're hearing from the intercepts, this joy, hey, we brought down a military airplane. oh, no, it's a commercial. why would they want the world opinion against them? it was probably a mistake, but it was a terribly bad one. >> steve brought up the threat of the shoulder-fired missiles that can only go about 10,000 or 12,000 feet. it had been a particular threat to passenger aircraft going on takeoff and landing. now they're held by rebels and different groups in 47 different countries. >> those are people that do want to shoot down special aircraft. that's their goa

-11s near the crash site. >> early thursday an sa-11 s.a.m. system was reported nearby by a western reporter and separatists were spotted hours before the incident with an sa-11 system at a location close to the site where the plane came down. >> and ukraine offered up what it said was evidence of such a system in separatist hands. >> today, ukraine's security service released this footage purportedly showing a russian-made missile system moving in just two hours before mh-17 was downed. they claim this shows the same missile launcher being hurriedly taken away today, crucially two of its four missiles are missing. >> united states today made it clear a separatist did have a missile launcher, they likely could no have operated it alone. >> because of the technical complexity of the sa-11, it is unlikely that the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. >> it's strange krid duality to think it could be used by separatists without some measure of russian support and technical assistance. >>

intelligence can account for all of the sa 11s owned by the ukranian military, and what secretary oftate kerry is calling an overwhelming circumstantial case that russia supplied the sa 11 which should the down the airliner. >> david martin in washington. >> cowan: we'll have more on the downing of flight 17 just ahead. in the middle east, israel agreed to a two hour cease-fire in a neighborhood in gaza hit hard by shelling overnight. fighting started two weeks ago and expanded this weekend. gaza health officials say nearly 400 people killed and 5 israelis have died. >> we learned that actor james garner has died. >> garner was the star of tv's rockford files and maverick. he died at home in los angeles. he was 86 years old n. clinton, massachusetts last night, a hot air balloon crashed into power lines over a neighborhood causing a huge explosion. surprisingly, authorities report only minor injuries to the five on board. here's sunday's weather. storms are expected across parts of the upper midwest and southeast. no rain is on the horizon in washington, but showers could fall in the

because of the technical complexity of the sa-11 it is unlikely that the separatists could effectivelyrate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. thus we cannot rule out technical assistance from russian personnel in operating the systems. the ukrainians do have these systems in their inventory, however we are not aware of any ukrainian systems in the area of the shoot down and more importantly since the beginning of this crisis, ukrainian air defenses have not fired a single missile despite several alleged violations of their airspace by russian aircraft. this also follows a pattern of actions by russian backed separatists. on june 24th, as this council was meeting to welcome ukraine's unilateral cease fire we received word that separatist downed a ukrainian helicopter, killing all aboard. they also claimed credit for downing of a cargo plane and also a fighter jet. if indeed russian backed separatists were behind this attack, they and their backers would have good reason to cover up evidence of their crime. thus, it is extremely important that an investigation be

leaves russia, and now there is evidence that the sa 11s have actually been seen .. moving across the border from the separatist held area of the ukraine into russia. it adds up to a circumstantial case, but a circumstantial case. >> schieffer: so what is next? >> so what is next is what does vladimir putin do? i think the fact he has disappeared for the last several days is interesting. it means he is trying to figure out what his next step is. and what do we do and what do the europeans do? and as secretary said we are in conversations with them. >> schieffer: could this in some way backfire on the russians? as i think probably the shootdown of that korean airliner by the soviets did. i mean, world opinion seemed to change after that. >> i think that was, bob, a turning point in the cold war, because it really demonstrated to the world what the soviet union was all about. i think that this event has the potential to make, tell the world what the world is all about, he is a thug and he is a bully. >> i think one thing about the crime scene part of this, as i mentione

analyst are trying to find evidence that russian officers were present in the sa missile launch site when the missile was fired. the separatist have been busy clearing the site. >> drunken separatist soldiers are piling bodies in trucks unceremoniously and disturbing the evidence and pattern that is there. anything that is removed and we understand aircraft parts have been removed compromises the investigation. we need full access and this is a moment of truth for russia. >> this video from friday shoes the so- called separatist led by russian military officers removing the black box and data recorder that is orange. they called for the artificial group of separatist backed by moscow to be put on the terrorist list. u.s. law makers want putten held accountable. >> the fact it is it not safe. and russia is not providing access. we look at the weapon that was used and the war zone open in europe is opened by the direction of vladimar putin. and this responsibility lays firms on him. >> the issue is where is putin? i would say putin, you have to man up. you should talk to the world and s

these systems, the sa-11 isn't just in the ukraine.'ve got parts of it in syria, you can come across the border in iraq. you've got hundreds of missing shoulder-fired weapons from libya that are going through africa and in these areas of conflict, whether nigeria or the caucasus, these planes are vulnerable. this is a seachange, we just cannot be flying over these places. there has to be better coordination between intelligence services and sill air authorities. i mean, that plane should not have been flying over the southeastern ukraine. a transport had already been shot down. that should have been warning enough, but it was ignored. i think we're underestimating these conflicts and it's time to catch up. >> poppy, an incredible idea, bob making the point, these weapons systems not just in eastern ukraine but in syria, iraq. as we know there are groups in syria and iraq, isis, the one we've been talking about for a long time, that i'm sure would have no hesitation aiming at civilian aircraft. >> there are planes flying over these regi

the sa-20, what officials tell me there's no indication that the ukrainians had an sa-20 and the russiansthe russians ever transferred an sa-20 to separatists or inside ukraine. so that is one of the two systems now they can rule out they believe. that leaves you with the sa-11, also called the buk, that's the russian name for it. there is intelligence that says the sa-11, the buk was in the possession, one of the systems of pro-russian separatists. the u.s. isn't sure whether the separatists captured it from the ukrainian military some time ago or was transferred by russian authorities across the border. there is a lot of intelligence that the russians have transferred heavy weapons across the border. that leaves you with the sa-11 or buk fired by separatist. ukrainians didn't fire it, the russians didn't fire it. all the trajectory analysis shows it came from inside eastern ukraine. right now this is the preliminary conclusion, the u.s. military, the u.s. intelligence community working urgency along with all the nato nations, the east europeans, they are all looking at their radar intel

. >> because of the technical complexity of the sa-11 it's unlikely the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. thus we cannot rule out technical assistance from russian personnel in operating the systems. >> earlier today president obama called the attack an unspeakable outrage and confirmed at least one american died in the crash, he was reportedly born in new york city and held dual citizenship with the netherlands. he was studying at a business school there friends have filled his facebook page with messages of mourning. reporters of the crash scene describe a lot of chaos. a lot of bodies still on the ground where they fill. and witnesses say rooters have begun to rifle through the luggage from the blood-soaked field. now as ukrainian forces and rebels fight for control of the crash site. what had been a regional conflict has now claimed hundreds of innocent victims from all around the globe with this plain crash. we're live in ukraine's capitol, kiev. >> right now we have both sides blaming each other. we have ukrainian o

planes fall out of the sky in the same location in the donetsk region, they started to believe that the sa-11 was in fact operational. the senior u.s. official tells me that they cannot rule out that the missile was fired from the russian side of the border. right now, they're working till gently to trace the missiles' path. they will eventually be able to show the exact coordinates from which it was fired. they have that information. they are also curious right now, i'm told from these intelligence sources, as to whether moscow had realtime visualization of the missile as it struck, whether this was an integrated air defense system. this intermediate range system known as the buk is sophisticated enough that it's usually integrated. its radar talks to other radars. so right now the u.s. is determining whether moscow had visualization of this missile strike. so again, a lot of developing information. but they are ruling out u.s. -- u.s. intelligence sources are ruling out if it was fired from the ukrainian military. >> thanks, jennifer. so they say they don't know exactly from whence it ca

, it is ration-made and the separatists were able to obtain an sa-11 onune 29th when they overtook a ukraine military base near donetsk, in the area where the plane went down. at the time they tweet ad photo of this ask. a 11, this -- sa-11, this buk missile. the at time u.s. intelligence thought the missile in their hands not necessarily operational. they began to change their assessment this week when they started to see see planes falling out of the sky. three planes in the last four days in the same area of donetsk where this sa-11 was captured. what u.s. intelligence does not know at this point is whether, if it was an sa-11 that brought down the plane, whether it was from this military base that, or whether it was an sa-11 that the russians had that crossed across the border. they're looking at all of that very carefully. of course the pentagon has been watching as heavy weaponry has been moving in recent weeks across the border. you had 10 to 12,000 russian troops amassing along the border and they have been watching steadily as heavier weaponry an

and he blamed president putin's government, for providing the weapons, or the sa-17. and the pro-russian separatists are denying it was them. they say they don't have weapons capable of taking out a plane at 33,000 feet. and they blame the ukrainian army. putin himself, perhaps, concerned about fallout, in terms of relations with the west, specifically with the united states. then seemed to back off from accusing anyone of actually pulling the trigger. but he clearly laid a larger blame on kiev. saying if the ukrainian military hasn't broken the unilateral cease-fire and recalled its anti-terror operation, recently, the whole tragedy would never have happened. we see here, putin once again working the game very well. casting himself as a man of peace, as a statesman surrounded by warmongers. >> let's talk about pro-russian separatists who claim to have taken the black boxes from this crash site. if that's the case, what has the kremlin owned up to any communication it has with the pro-russian separatists and maybe they can get the black boxes from them? >> putin has be

officials said this was the work of separatist rebel shooting down the plane with sophisticated russian made sa 11 anti-aircraft missile like thi this. president obama directly linking the tragedy to russia noting the rebel have already shot down several you crane an military planes. >> drup of separateest can't shot down military transport planes or they claim shot down fighter jets. without sophisticated equipment and training and that is coming from russia. >> russian president putin denied involvement. it was at the crash site where rebel he spoke with scoffed at the claim they are responsible for this fight among the dead top aid researchers headed to conference passengers from 11 nation including the one american and 80 children. the bodies new marked like all the others with white flags waiting to be collected. and brought home. this city is preparing for an awful task. this is where the bodies will be brought. this is where the loved ones will come to claim them while living who remain behind will try to fathom what really happened and who is responsible for this atrocity. this is ukrai

they believe the sa-11 buk missile was brought across the border from russia in recent weeks and since the malaysian plane went down, russian-backed separatists have been frantic little trying to hide it. u.s. officials now believe it's likely back across the border in russia. further, u.s. intelligence analysts now think they have evidence that this former russian military intelligence colonel igor girkin strel cov who is leading the separatist movement oversaw is the strike. just 20 minutes after the plane went down, one of his lieutenants is igor is overheard talking to another russian military intelligence officer in phone intercepts released by the ukraine government. u.s. officials are conducting voice recognition and believe the audio to be authentic. >> we have just shot down a plane. that was miner's group. it fell down outside. pilots, where are the pilots? >> set off to search for the shotdown plane and take pictures. a plume of smoke is visible. >> how many minutes ago. >> about 30 minutes. >> that surface-to-air missile had to come from russia. the training provided to ope

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