partly because they were less commercial than some of their rivals and less intensely focused in the short-term p&l partly because they had a rather bizarre internal corporate culture where people would say there for a long time. by and large the j.p. morgan teams were not bouncing from bank to bank. most of them joined strait ad of graduation and stayed there for ten, 20, 30 years and that created a strong sense of team and spirit. it created a luxury of being able to show ideas in a collegiate manner and take a broader into the towards risk. very interesting in terms of the way the internal corporate coaches can change. the old j.p. morgan had clay a-- towards risk but then they-- summon disastrously and that created disasters like enron. then when dimond arrived, he brought with them a set of added towards-- attitudes towards risk which in a low-key way it was time very well in the risk management culture. so, they do appear to have taken, as far as i can tell, have been topped atlanta to the j.p. morgan guys and talk to other banks to take an attitude towards risk. they were much more systema