the idea of a joint committee. now, i've seen this movie. i saw it in the original english with bowles-simpson. it in subtitles in gang of six. and now they're going... whatever it is. it always ends the same way. you always have the same things on the table. you have to decide, all right whacks are we going to do to each of these that's good for the economy, that's fair to everybody. and so i hope that at some point this joint committee takes what we've done and puts it on the table and says, let's save some time. this joint committee has ten weeks, literally ten weeks start to finish to come up with a product. that's not a lot of time. >> now is that a product that then needs to be voted on by the full house and the full senate. >> and if it fails, in comes the so-called triggers. that means deep spending cuts on the domestic side where we've already taken a big cut. >> jon: do you feel any regrets that the democrats, when they had control of the house and senate, didn't just pass a budget, when they had the opportunity to, didn't punch it out of fear of losing seats in the house, so that the