the highest bidder. wayne, you said who would want it? it's sick. social security administrationhat mster death list to people who then market to survivors of the deceased for real estate opportunities. >> eric: right. >> it's pretty sick. >> eric: let me give you another example, wayne. i got a speeding ticket a month ago. within ten days i had 15 lurs telling me they -- lawyers telling me they'd represent me for the speeding ticket. >> but my point that's why it's so nuts. the politicians have made it nuts. this is just craziness people do this. >> eric: michelle, last thought. >> you know, i think it's ridiculous. how much more money do they want out of us? >> eric: leave it there. coming up, battle brewing with the big labor. owner of the oldest brewery taking on the unions to fight for a right to work state. is that the right fight for jobs? ♪ >> eric: call it brewery versus big labor. the head of the oldest brewery is pushing his state of pennsylvania to pass a right to work law. i would reign in power of unions and doing so would attract more businesses to the area to crea

social security paid $1.3 billion to people who had jobs while claiming to be disabled. auditors estimate some 36 now workers mistakenly received check over the past two years. the social security administration says it will investigate. spending at the department of housing and urban development is also under new scrutiny. hud disperses more than $40 billion tax dollars every year. as sharyl attkisson reports tonight, some accuse the agency of scwawndering precious resources. >> it's apparent waste is rampant in hud. >> reporter: congressman patrick mchenry heads a commit they examines waste and fraud at hud this week. the agency's inspector general criticized a program that gave many louisiana residents $30,000 a piece to prepare their homes for the next hurricane. 24,000 people spent the money on something else, but no one knows on what. >> we spent three quarters of a billion dollars to pay people to elevate their home that didn't do it. >> reporter: and there's billions of dollars in disaster relief sitting in bank accounts unused, including money for hurricane katrina relief in 2005. congressman al green argues that sequestration has left hud with fewer people to do oversight. >> but i

. >> gregg: red faces in washington after the social security administration sent checks to, oh, yeah, wrong people. oops. how did that happen? and the staggering amount of money of your tax dollars was squandored. >> arthel: plus, a while back, lois lerner took the fifth about the irs target scandal. now her e-mails are speaking for themselves. what they're saying. that's coming up. >> after very careful consideration, i have decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify or answer any of the questions with the spark miles card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewas for his small business today. your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase every day. what's in your wallet? [ crows ] now where's the snooze button? ♪ we go, go, we don't have to go solo ♪ ♪ fire, fire, you can take me higher ♪ ♪ take me to the mountains, start a revolution ♪ ♪ hold my hand, we can make, we can make a contribution ♪ ♪ brand-new season, keep it in motion ♪ ♪ 'cause the rhym

the department of homeland security will furlough about 14% of employees. it's not a complete shutdown. the social security administration will continue the write checks to requitirees. the checks will get to you normally. so will your bills. medicare and medicaid ben fish qulars be covered. the department of health and human services will furlough almost half of their employees. members of congress and the president and vice president get paid during shutdowns. all of this at a hefty price tag to takes payers. the white house estimates the overall cost of the shutdown will be at least $2 billion. the senate took the day off yesterday. hay don't come back to work until 2:00 this afternoon, leaving just ten hours to find a solution before the government partially uts down. >> when they come down, all signs are that the senate will pass back to the house a government funding resolution without any of the add-on that the house had. what happens next? >> reporter: there is one path out of this. that will go back to the house. the house would have to axwrgreo what the senate has said. they would be willing to fund the governm

the social security administration sis the disability payments are who are than 99% accurate howeverit plans to recoup any improper payments. >>> you're watching the station that works for you. now, good morning maryland. someone set fire to a speed camera. when it's expected to be replaced. details ahead. and it's recommended reading for students across the country. what a mother says this book should not be in the cribbing crumb. we have de-- curriculum. we have details ahead. hope you had a great weekend. thanks for joining us. i am megan pringle. charley is reporting on the massive flooding in colorado. we will check with him in a bit. but first mike masso. how is the morning shaping up. >> not bad. it's pretty comfortable. here's shot in dundalk pretty dark. and that is not bad. it's pretty mild for this time of the year this time of the morning. 63 degrees being reported at the airport. gentle southwesterly wind at around 5 and most of the numbers are into the 60s along 95. you go to the north and west toward the tawnytown park and reisterstown and you are at 55, 61 getting alo

the social security administration says its disability payments are 99% accurate but they are investigating and say they will fix any improper payments. >>> this year if you call butterball turkey hotline you might hear a fella on the other end of the line. for the first time ever, butterball is enlisting the help of men as well as women for the turkey talk cook advice cookingline. so the turkey. [audio not understandable] there you go mike the talk line has long offered advice for people cooking turkeys over the holiday season. >>> the power ball jackpot keeps on growing no winning tickets on saturday and that means, 400 million dollars is where we stand now. not bad. the cash option is 224 million bucks. i can fined a few -- find a few things to do with that. this is the 4th time they passed the 300 million dollar mark there were several match 5 winners on saturday. those lucky will winners got a million bucks. so buy another ticket or the butterball line. >> if i hit the lottery that's my retirement. i am feeling better ballish. good morning. here we go. aid beautiful shot looking out to

the social security administration says its accuracy rate for paying the benefits exceeds 99%.t also says it will now look into this gao report. >>> prince william is sitting down with cnn for the first time since becoming a parent, in a new special airing sunday, "prince william's passion, new father, new hope." in it he shares his passion for africa and conservation with max foster and explains how these feelings have only intensified since the birth of his son. >> for me, it's the sense of freedom, being out in the middle of nowhere in africa, just seeing the beauty of nature and the natural world is just phenomenal. it's fantastic. >> when the young prince arrived in africa for the first time, the splendor of an african sunset, the deep quiet of the bush, and the majesty of the animals captured his heart. >> i had no real idea that i would feel that way but i never realized how much emotionally [ inaudible ]. you want to stand up for what is very vulnerable and what needs protecting. >> those same feelings have become more intense for william since the birth of his son, pri

you can take it to the social security administration and get your social security card. off to the clerk's office. and get your driver's license. >> i was wondering how we were going to take care of that. thank you, ma'am. >> good luck. and don't come back. >> no, ma'am, i won't. i'll try not to. it's different from when i walked in. when i walked in, i ain't going to lie, i was intimidated as hell, you know what i mean? this place is intimidating. walk up those front steps. >> out. >> clear. >> all right. >> the worst that kentucky's got right here. felt like this day was never going to come. it's all sinking in right now, you know what i mean? i don't know what to say. >> i'm going to miss nothing in this place whatsoever. i'm excited, ready to get out in the world. >> while chris sowder is lucky enough to be released from ksp, there are many who may never leave the prison alive. >> i'm realistic. by the time i see the parole board, i'll probably be dead. right now as it is, i'm facing probably 60 to 80 years if they stack on maximum sentences on every one of my new ch

. >> the social security administration would furlough mployees. >> let's say you need to get a visa your passport renewed. the kind of office that remains open, the one that sends your disability benefits. they are so concerned about the affordable care act that they're willing to shutdown the congress

that is what estimates the social security administration dealed out one.throw billion to people supposedly while receiving the cash benefits. the money was paid to 36,000 people in 2010 and this year. it blames it on part of the social security to police weaknesses in their own system. it comes) security program is facing a huge financial crisis. the trust fund could run out of money in three years unless congress does something to repair the short fall. >> we like to check in with our fox affiliates around the nation to so what they are working on and tonight, we go to texas, the queen of çósouthern cuisine is back. paula deen making her first public appearance since the controversy is not her in a free fall. here is theÑi story. >> that is a ugly cry, mom. Ñi >>ñr sobbing in a Ñiçókleeniowad deen admitted to learn a lot about herself. >> this is my first time out in thr three months. (applause) and i am the one place to makeñ my first step back out was texas. (applause) >> paula deen's show on the food network got cancelled and she lost endorsements after admitting that she had used raci

the social security administration dolled out more than a billion dollars in d disability who are capableing. >>> i'm maryann raferty. you're watching the most powerful name in news, fox news channel. >> it includes the know tnotori home movie of the assassination. as our hearts go out to the victims of the flooding in colorado, senator rand paul where yet another tragedy is being felt. a fire that destroyed some of the same boardwalk rebuilt after super torm sandy right here from governor chris christie. >> this is what this job is all about. you have to lend encouragement and deliver help. most people were saying thank you for being here. and what ifgs saying to them was -- a few of them told me i looked tired. i said we don't have time to be tired now. we have to get back to work. some people were telling me how sad it was. i said sfien. fine. time for sadness is over. it's legitimate a sad thing, but we've got work to do now. a couple days to mourn, and now we have to move on and get to work. >> during senator rand paul's visit, he had a chance to ask about gov forchris christie. here

. >> richard dean, a 49-year-old vietnam veteran who worked for the social security administration for 22 years now. last year, he was hard at work in the federal building in oklahoma city when the last killed 169 people and brought the rubble down all around him. had he re-entered that building four times. he saved the lives of three women. but richard dean's story doesn't end there. this last november, he was forced out of his office when the government shut down. and the second time the government shut down, he continued helping social security recipients, but he was working without pay. on behalf of richard dean and his family, and all the or other people who are out there working every day, doing a good job for the american people, i challenge all of you in this chamber, let's never, ever shut the federal government down again. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin. or lasts longer. [ female

. >> the social security administration has consistently underestimated the extent to which older workers will work longer and constantly pushing up that projected, and as larger and larger shares of the population hit these older ages someone has to produce the goods and services. >> and, says minell, that would be a good thing for older workers. considering that 55- to 64-year- olds have an average of only $120,000 saved for retirement. >> $120,000 may sound like a lot. but when you think about taking that out over 20, 30 year retirement, you're talking about only a few hundred dollars per month. >> so you mean if you've saved as much as $120,000, in your late 50s, you are still facing relative poverty? >> people are not going to have very much money, if they retire at 64. so my view is the single most important thing they can do is work as long as they possibly can. >> mark freedman the owner of encore.org, says the privilege is to work for themselves and the broader economy. >> it's an extraordinary opportunity for individuals to have another chance to do something important but reall

this time, the social security administration, congressional investigators uncovering -- ready for this? 1.3 billion in potentially faulty disability payments, payments to people who claim they were unable to i ion? is guess this is an estimate, what is this? >> so they found people were working and receiving disability payments, which is against federal law. the reason they think it is happening because the disability program has a five-month waiting period where you're not supposed to be working in order to prove you have a long-term type of disability. and the administration was not really looking at all the five months to see if people were holding down jobs or not. as a matter of fact, people were working within the five months and they continued to get checks in the period of five years, which equalled about a billion dollars. >> this is five months, in the sixth month, are they still drawing disability and not working? >> at that point they were not working, but within the first five months they were not supposed to be working. so it is kind of a crazy situation. they were not lo

social security lifetime benefits delaying the receipt. i was shocked at the 76% figure that you gave. i follow this fairly closely. selection of the social security administration be doing to make sure that seniors understand that if they choose age 62, they will get far less than if they are able to delay the receipt, sometimes they can't, or there are good reasons not to. >> that is an excellent question. up until very recently, maybe three or four years ago, the social security field agents had a policy of describing this choice want to claim the benefits in terms of the so-called breakeven level. also for example they might say that you get a thousand dollars a month, just to pick a number out of the air. if you work one more year past age 62, you'll get $1127 more a month. but then they would say, do you realize that you would forfeit the $12,000 plus the interest and we would use the word forfeit, if you don't live for sure another 14 years. that obviously gives people the cold chills and they say that we don't want to forfeit anything, so they tend to be encouraged to take it early. i will say that the social security field agents have moved away from th

the department of homeland security, charged with protecting the country, will furlough about 14% of its employees, including many border, custom, and secret service agents. it's not a complete shutdown. the social security administration will continue to write checks to retirees. and because the post office will stay open, those checks will get to you normally, but so will your bills. medicare and medicaid beneficiaries will be covered. even though the department of health and human services, the agency that runs those programs, will furlough nearly half of its employees. members of congress and the president and vice president get paid during shutdowns. all of this comes with a hefty price tag for taxpayers. shutting gown the government actually costs money. the white house estimates the overall cost of the shutdown will be at least $2 billion. with a shutdown looming, the senate took the day off yesterday. in fact, george, they don't come back to work until 2:00 this afternoon, leaving just ten hours to find a solution before the government partially shuts down. >> when they come down, all signs are that the senate will pass back to the house a government funding resolution without any of the add-on that the house h

according to a new report by the government accountability office, the social security administrationthe government says the actual number could be much higher. the agency says it plans to it launch an official investigation. and you won't see these commercials anymore. the scooter store is shutting down for good. >> if you are living with limited mobility. call the scooter store today. we're experts at getting the power chair or scooter you need. >> the move coming after the texas company filed for bankruptcy in april. it was also under federal scrutiny over alleged medicare and medicaid fraud. it now plans to phase out operations and furlough it's remaining 370 employees and managers. those your headlines. >> overnight with those ads that run all night. i know rick's office and his television screen are always tuned to the scooter store ads. sorry, rick. >> i turn my tv's off energy. clayton. >> that's right. very smart of you. >> as i'm sure do you too. >> we have been talking about colorado so much the last few days and rightly so. there is a chance a little more moisture might ge

the social security administration is now looking into the cause of these overpayments. >> united airlinesd it will honor free tickets mistakenly sold to passengers, united airlines listed air fares at zero dollars and customers had to pay a $5 or $10 carrier fee. united is not saying how many tickets were sold or how much it will cost the airlines, though the problem was fixed in a couple of hours. >> >> analysts reporting the i phone 5c has had fewer preorders than previous i phones. the yellow model appears to be sold on on apple's website. of the more advanced phone goes on sale on friday. >> >> world champion hot dog joey chestnut, he devoured 13 apple pies in eight minutes. and this is how he did it. >> get into a rhythm, control my breathing, don't overstuff my mouth, drink water, do the same thing over and over. >> >> chestnut said he still had room for one more pie. next up, a brat wurst eating contest in cincinnati. good way to see the country. . >>> good luck to him. >> all right, 7:51, it is a big party with a bad reputation how oakland police plan to handle the night at the or

most recently since 2007 she has worked at the social security administration in western north carolina. she first moved to henderson county 35 years ago, and her record of service to our nation and her various roles merits the highest commendation. i'm proud to have her as a constituent. madam speaker, today i wish her all the best in her retirement where she will have more time to spend with her husband of 40 years, and her two adult sons on behalf of the 11th district, i thank her for her distinguished career of service to this great country. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new york seek recognition? without objection, the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. >> instead of working with democrats to prevent a shutdown, house republicans have passed two bills that have no chance of becoming law and are the 42nd and 43rd votes on undermining the affordable care act. mrs. lowey: while the old saying goes, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again, i say to my colleagues across th

social security numbers, your email, your family size, your medical records, and the list goes on? the answer is no. america's personal information will be shared from the department of justice, from the social security administration, the department of homeland security, the i.r.s. will send information, the treasury department, health and human services. look, we have already witnessed many security breaches within numerous government agencies. and the potential for abuse here is staggering. we know a system like this will be attractive to identity thieves. the it's clear that a system that's -- it's clear that a system that's not been tested for security systems, so it cannot protect all of our security information and our personal information. we have even witnessed privacy abuses by other government agencies. by the n.s.a., by the i.r.s., the obama data hub will end privacy as we know it and will grant unprecedented power over citizens to the government. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from utah seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. -- thompson: mr. speaker, mr. bishop: mr. speaker, i am reading a book abo

the social security act. i also transmit for the information of the congress a report prepared by the social security administration explaining the key points of united states-slovak republic totalization agreement, along with a paragraph by paragraph explanation of the provisions of the principle agreement and administrative arrangement. annexed to this report is another report required by section 233-e-1 of the social security act on the effect of the united states-slovak republic totalization agreement on income and expenditures of the u.s. social security program and the number of individuals affected by the united states-slovak republic totalization agreement. signed, barack obama, the white house. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the committee on ways and means and ordered printed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house until approximately 6:30 p.m. today. >> the house is expected back in this evening at 6:30 eastern for votes and speeches. later in the week, members will work on a forest management measure and a bill that would revise the food stamp program. also possible, a reso

if you look at the age adjusted disability rates, we're actually somewhat below what the social security administration projected a few years back. that's not a big part of the story. we do have higher unemployment because of measured unemployment because extension benefits but that's a story people staying in the workforce counted as unemployed because you have to be looking for a job or say you're actively looking for a job to get benefits. i don't think there's much of a story there. the rise in disability and this happens every downturn, we always have some workers who were employed with problems. people have a back problem but employed with construction jobs. in a normal healthy economy they might be kept on the payroll even though they are half speed. when it's time to lay someone off, they will look at someone in their 50s at half speed versus someone 25 who can lift half as much. that person looking for a job, that disability would be a problem. i think that's most of what we're seeing with the rise in disability. >> let me come back to the question and put in another element. we have a serious

and the social security administration under existing practices. this is a lot of witchcraft and baloney. if there is an inconsistency, then additional documentation is going to be required. furthermore, all the subsidies are reconciled by the i.r.s. when an individual files their tax returns. this is just spinning of people who don't want the legislation to come to be. and again this is the 41st time we have engaged in this silly exercise. the practical effect of this bill will be denying millions of americans from getting subsidies for purchasing health insurance. its purpose is to delay and obfuscate the implementation of the legislation that it is supposed to be helping. to pass this bill is simply going to prove to be a malicious assault on the most vulnerable people in our country. and those most in need of the affordable care act. we have seen this song and dance before. as i mentioned this is the 41st time we have engaged in this nonsense. wasting about a million and a half dollars each hour we are doing this. i urge all of my colleagues to

president, when the social security administration on a shutdown cannot process benefits for retirees? what happens if someone is widowed and she needs the help from her social security to get those burial benefits she's entitled to? is that making the republicans excited over there, to hurt our seniors with medicare, with ci away, people who were waiting to turn 65 so they could get their medicare card, call up medicare, no one is there. sorry. oh, that's a lovely thing to do to your mothers and dads, i say to my colleagues over there. lovely. how does it help our veterans and their families when a new disability claim or a g.i. bill claim cannot be processed? i can tell you it hurts them. there's already a huge backlog. this is just what we don't need. a shutdown where the backlog of claims gets worse and worse. and we all say we love our veterans. and i believe that when we say that. don't shut down the government and hurt our veterans. how does it help our small businesses? republicans say they care about small businesses more than democrats. that's a lot of hokum. how does it hel

, also the department of homeland security to check citizenship, of course social security administration will valid date birth, that they're not dead, the social security number, the department of justice will check on criminal history, the health and human services department, another recipient of the information, will check enrollment or eligibility for entitlement programs, collects and analyzes medical data and then of course the i.r.s. who are the folks who are the enforcers of the obama health care law, the enforcers will along with the treasury department verify employment status, individual income status, determine premium subsidies, all with the potential for significant fraud, and all because of a lack of providing the privacy safeguards that the law mandates this administration to provide. but yet the administration is not doing so. a number of us have been asking for months to see what's involved with these so-called navigators, what kind of education to they they need, what background checks are there, and we can still not get the information we're seeking, mr. president. we

the bacteria has been found again. >> i feel nervous. >> a long time social security administration employee is one of hundreds in this building who received word that the bacteria legionnaire's was found inside. >> we're told itd was in men's and womens bathroom on the fifth floor and had been in the basement. >> to cording to a memo, testing done august 27 found quote, a positive reading for legionella from water sampling and goes on to say would it have no impact on health and safety of building employees. that is little consoleation to long time employees who worked near 1991 when an outbreak killed a woman and jinged more than a dozen others. >> i think there is a reason to be concerned about health. i got sick 22 years ago. and think i can get sick again, from it. >> it's a severe lung infection including pneumonia. another form caused pontiac fever, a milder illness. according to 9 spokeswoman, bacteria has been boiled out of the building's water system. in richmond abc 7 news. >> cdc says people age 50 and older are most at risk for developing legionnaire's disease so are recurrent or former smokiers and peopl

the last during the clinton administration. failure to fund the 2014 budget beginning october 1st will be felt quickly. social security and medicare payments would be delayed. military personnel will not get paid until the government reopens and government workers will beforceded to take unpaid vacations. the house version without obamacare is a stop gap bill that will keep the the government open until the 15th. >> american people don't want a shutdown or obamacare. >> politics is driving the battle. the president will veto the bill. the democrats say they won't let it happen. expect a high-stakes poker game and the senators taking on the senate and the white house. into randall pinkston joins us with more on the budget battle. is anybody speaking from a new script at least? >> sort of. we have heard a lot about the division within the republican party especially as between republicans on the house side and moderate republicans on the senate side. this morning we are hearing an effort to get democrats to join republicans in the senate to oppose the affordable care act. we heard from utah senator mike lee. >> all 45 r

the story you will see only on 7 news jeans. >> i feel in nervous. >>reporter: long time social security administrationemployee carol griffin one of hundreds federal workers in the building richmond who received word. bacteria was found inside the pl facility. >> we told it was in the men and women bathroom l on the fifth floor and in the base, somewhere in the basement. >>reporter: according to employee memo obtained by abc 7 news, testing done august 27th foundal positive reading for legionnella from water sampling. goes on to say the doyvrs ri of the bacteria would have no impact on health and safety of building employees. that assurance is of little consolation to long time mye like griffin who worked here in 1991 when outbreak of legionnaires disease killed one woman and sicken more than a dozen others. >> i think there is a reason to be concerned. i got 622 years ago and i think could get sick again. >>reporter: it's bacteria that cause legionnaires disease. severe lung infection which includes knew money yeah. another form called pontiac fever a milder illness without knew money yeah. according

the sequester has just been devastating to my district. we have a lot of federal employees who have been furloughed, a lot of people going through difficult times. nih is certainly in our state and social security administration. we feel the pain here. i think we've got, and i've said it many times, that sequester is no way to run a government, it's just not. so hopefully we'll be able to come to some type of agreement. i've got to tell you, immaterial au -- i'm usually a pretty optimistic guy but with the tea party group doing what they are doing, it's hard to be optimistic, but i'm hopeful that we'll come to some type of compromise. because again, it's going to -- when you shut down the government, people definitely will feel the pain and they will feel the pain quite rapidly. as far as sequester is concerned, people are already feeling the pain. it has been gradual, but they're now really beginning to feel it. now we'll have cuts on top of the sequester, which is basically pretty unbearable for a lot of folks. >> congressman, i'm going to open up this to our folks in new york. joy, the idea that mitch mcconnell and john cornyn who has basically been riding around in the clown car with ted cruz, the fact th

the building. it's a story only on abc 7 news. we obtained a social security administration employee memo that reads that testing done last month found a positive region of legionnaire from water sampling. >> i think there is a reason to be concerned about health. i got sick 22 years ago. i think i can get sick again, from it. >> legionela can cause legionnaire's disease a severe lung infection often includes knew moana. a spokeswoman says it's been boiled out of the tep yid water system. ploimys tell abc 7 news they're still concerned. >> battle over naming the bri bai bridge is heating up. it's the western span going from treasure island into san francisco but before the ink was dry, detractors saying no, no. not so fast. wayne freedman is on the water front with the story. wayne? >> it's controversial but it's not unprecedented. the state building in oakland named after former oakland mayor benicia bridge named after george miller still a congressman n san jose you have norman mineta international airport now over my shoulder, take a look. the -- willie brown bridge. it's

these costs are already part of the legislation as we've seen historically with social programs like social security and medicare it is customary regardless of administration to have public service announcements and awareness for people coming into the senior age with medicare and social security. we have an entirely new program. this is a reformation system and starting on october 1st i think it is part of this program and the government's responsibility to educate the people on what they need to do, what they can do, when it starts, and what is happening and why. i don't feel that -- >> the argument is a lot of people feel a lost public service announcements have an agenda and it is not correct to use taxpayer dollars to push an agenda by using that money for those purposes that a lot of people see as having an agenda. i don't have a lot of time, i want to get your thoughts. play the sound bite. bill clinton to the rescue on health care. he will give a big speech in little rock. here is what he said may have been a turning moment from the election over the summer. >> president obama started with a much weaker economy than i did. listen to me now. no pres

the major parties. find out what they believe in. they believe we should end social security. they believe we should end veterans administration privatize it. that we should abolish the middle wage and enable people to work for three dollars or four dollars an hour. z said we need a real debate about values and issues. he is right. that we should abolish social security and that we should end the environmental protection service. host: you have taken to the floor for extremely long periods of time. what is that like? >> i was on the floor for eight and half hours in opposition to president obama several years ago not doing away with bush's tax breaks for the wealthy. it ain't easy. hours.n for only 8 1/2 it is not easy. you are not eating. you cannot sit down. you are not going to the bathroom. host: is that a rule in the senate? guest: if you control the floor. other people can speak. you cannot disappear. you cannot sit down. edst: senator paul has an op- with regard to health care. he writes -- guest: that happens not to be accurate. i will be getting my health care from the exchange in the state of vermont. we can debate h