what is the soonest he spoke to officer crowley? >> he called me with a couple of hours of that incident. greta: when did he tell you? >> he asked me if i had a few minutes to listen to him, and he said he wanted to tell me a story about what happened a little while ago. we have been close friends, and we talk all the time, and he ran it by me, and i said, "jimmy, you had all of the probable cause that i think you needed it." "you did the right thing," and he said, "i had no choice," and we talked a little bit about what kind of fallout there might be. we talked about any time anybody from one of the colleges, especially harbor, might get in trouble, you kind of read about it in the newspaper, and " we thought it would play well here in boston in the short term -- and we thought it would play well here in boston in the short term. whether it will reach the magnitude and significance it has, but it has. greta: what did he tell you had happened? >> he was not dispatched. officers were dispatched, but they were not close, and he was on