and the laws of each state. and the reason in part that the court's decisions have said that is that otherwise, each state would be able to essentially legislate for every other state. justice scalia: public acts? it would include the act of marrying people, i assume. mr. whalen: my understanding of this court's decisions as the reference in the constitution to public acts is that each state's laws. justice scalia: so there there's nothing in the constitution that requires a state to acknowledge even those marriages in other states that that are the same. mr. whalen: that's essentially correct, your honor. justice scalia: really? mr. whalen: under this court's decisions, that's essentially right. there has been under the jurisprudence with regard to allstate insurance and alaska packers and so forth that there's a minimal due process requirement to decline to apply another state's substantive law. justice scalia: we can say the only marriages we acknowledge in new york are marriages concluded in new york, is that

was it the united states or britain? h country was going to be the leading naval power of the world? this is part of the history of international relations of the period between the two world wars that is not well known today. i want to highlight this because this is one of the major irritants, points of contention between the united states and britain between the two world wars. about what size should each country's fleet be relative to -- should be relative to the other? should britain remained the dominant naval power? or should the united states be on par -- at least equal with that of britain? so, a naval rivalry emerges between britain and the united states after the first world war. churchill, after the first world war, the british government holds an election and this is churchill going back to his seat, his parliamentary seat in the scottish industrial fishing city of dundee up in the north and here he is delivering a speech at the end of november 1918. the war was over on the western front for a couple weeks. th

the state has a single rate throughout the state which is a problem for us because our cost of care and i have a sloyd to show the rate disparity for title 5 contractors. it is our number 1 policy problem because as we try to support those providers if the state isn't paying their fair share it is a problem. it is a problem for them to keep their doors open let alone provide quality care. that is a big challenge. we have this pilot that allows us to pay a slightly higher state rate and that pilot is due to sunset. it also allows us for families to stay in eligibility for subsidy longer. the state medium income ceiling for eligibility is 43.200 and the pilot rate allows them to stay in the subsidy for 53 thousand. that is for a family of 3 and it changes depend on the size of the family. we also are working on the state reimbursement for the vouchers which is slightly higher rate and our goal really is >> student regionalize the rate. senator [inaudible] is a champion in sacramento and worked with all the legislative representives and hope to have the subset repealed this year. [inaudibl

don't underestimate the need for the state or the power for the state. if these threats come to pass the state will have a much powerful. the 2nd thing is that as both shop as both authors discussed, if the state does need more power to deal with these threats surveillance will be the means of doing it, and surveillance on the scale we have not seen yet. if these threats come to materialize the demand will be for the state to do much more which will involve surveillance of the skill of communications and activities that now seems impossible. and you have heard directors of the nsa saying things like billy wagner protect the network from cyber threats is to be the network. the government is thinking this way now. the 3rd thing i want to say is that started writing this book before the snowdon revelations. had to adjust a little bit. but i want to say, if the state has to do these things that i suggested it might have to do of the threats are as you read as they are, then the government might look back as the snowdon revolution to revelations is a great th

the last point is we say the state and mean the united states. this is a response to jack and reinforce reinforces the concern given. here is another way to express the concerns taking them further, you are concerned about the u.s. government response we could be more concerned about other government response and take the threat scenario or preception and jack wrote about it with the concerns of cyber security. if we are dealing with a world where there are hundreds of 93 unm un members. and many are fragile and we cannot just think about what the united states can and will do in the face of threat. we need to thing about what happens in the world where subcontractors and sates relying on for governance and assistance for their own citizens and preventing harm from migrating and don't function or no longer function. and the debates about the state's capabilities verses the outside threats look very very different from where you sit here and think about the u.s. government capability and the potential threat. now we would welcome your questions and

states. i want to make sure with their to us and folks in the mountain states. with that in mind let's have a good hearing. >> i would like to tell the audience and the witnesses that were scheduled to have a boat somewhere between 10 and 15 and 1030 time it. my plan would try to get to the opening statements editor and quickly and let us go vote, make that one boat and come back to the question portion. i reserve the right to change my mind. i might just to we will rotate in and out. that might be a better way but at that point i want to put you on alert at this time for but like to recognize that chairman of the full committee mr. inhofe from oklahoma for the purposes of making some comments. >> i thought that was just my wife that made that statement changing her mind. i appreciate it very much, and let me come we have some people here today from oklahoma that came up here comes the real electric cooperative concern. we get this question all the time, wait a minute if we are reliant upon fossil fuel for 50% of power to run this machine called america and they

when the state steps in, whose life is it. sheila macvicar vets the rights lost in the name of protecting a ward of the state. >> you were under guardianship. >> yes. >> how would you describe it? >> i would describe it as tyranny, gestapo >>> thanks for joining us, i'm when. as we get older, what we want most is independence, the right to make decisions for ourselves, when we lose the ability to be our open caregivers, what then? >> a family member is a guardian, but when no one is available, an elderly person or a young one can become a ward of the state. as sheila macvicar found in here investigation of texas's guardianship system. it can be the first step to isolation, and the end of control of our own lives. >> reporter: which doctor is this now? >> this was their doctor. >> reporter: dorothy's life changed forever with a knock on her door. >> they said this will take about 3 minutes. >> reporter: they were a couple of attorneys, and it was the beginnings of the end of dorothy's freedoms to make her own decisions. first a

what should they know about jumping in the state of the law now. >> the federal conflict nowadays hase beyond drug enforcement coming in and creating state laws the conflict as outlined by mr swarts manifests in a variety of weighs. one being the i.r.s. where the tax structure is problematic. you can't take reductions the inability to bank that it is a schedule 1 steps, there's no clinical trials there's no massive quality assurance going on. when the states are doing the job of what would fall to the federal government. there'll be gaffes. and mr swarts did a job of pointing out the two big impediments which is an inability to bank because of the schedule one status. >> like a good lawyer i am sure you talk con law. does the united states live with a long-term disagreement between the states and federal government when it comes to something like this and it involves revenue, tax collection and bank chartering. can that go on for a long time. >> your guess is as good as mine. no one knows what will happen in 2016. i'm confident there won't be a change on the federal level. if someone

and then the state of the u.s. diplomacy and foreign policy. >>> the environmental protection agency has proposed new rules for power plant emissions called the clean power plant. attorneys discuss the legal ramifications of the epa's proposals at a hearing at the senate environment subcommittee on clean air. west virginia attorney holds the hearing. >>> well i'd like to thank everybody for being here today and this is our first clean air and nuclear safety subcommittee hearing on the epa's clean power plan. i would like to thank all of the witnesses for appearing before us today and say a special thank you to my state's attorney general, patrick morrisey, who has been leading the national legal fight against this rule which we believe would have a devastating impact in our home state of west virginia. so thank you for traveling across the mountain. i appreciate it. back in february in a full committee hearing in this room, i asked epa acting assistanted a menstruate for janet mackay to explain why the epa did not

nature of the state to increase power and liberty? i don't mean to suggest important but the more general political stereotypes that they might ask. >> the optimal amount of governance is not zero. this is the central insight of the theorist. it is still true in a liberal state. we all believe that we argue about the margins. but not since elements of the new left but since the turn of the last century has anarchism ben a big proposition. the nature of the state that maximizes liberty involves a lot of the elements and wine was transparency. the justification has to be reasonably understood and the individual citizen has to make the calculation the liberty she is giving up pays dividends with some other in the raid that the giving up to the authority to rule in abels greater liberty. this is why police presence in neighborhoods that have good relations from the police sought of as their pretty enhancement where it and ferguson, missouri to the assault was sought as the zero crescive presence presence, because when you look at the state

after the civil war was over. we became a state in 1861. that makes us when hundred 50 four years old. they were not able to start on the building because of the civil war. they built it in sections. we are laid out like the u.s. capitol. they started with the east wing with the senate chamber. they did the south wing, the former supreme court room. the north wing has the state library. finally, the dome. that did take every seven years at a cost of $3.2 million. it was quite a bit of money but they did spread it out over the 37 years and we are one of the few capitals were all of the money was raised before they built. no debt associated with building the capital itself. when kansas was about to enter the union, there were equal numbers of free and slave states. kansas would break the tie. i believe that is where the state motto comes from. it stands for "to the stars through difficulties in her." no matter what happens, they will make it through. >> we are currently on the second floor of the kansas state capital. this floor has

and also the largest coast line in the united states. as the busiest container port in the state of florida, we have economic activity throughout the state resulting from the activity here at the port. we also have over 6,000 jobs directly tied to that container activity as well as over 200,000 jobs throughout the state. the containers that are leaving here generally are food stuffs computers, computer printers. we serve as the grocery store for the caribbean. the containers coming in, produce, bananas being the top commodity, melons. we enjoy our fruits and vegetables. jet fuel comes from as far away as korea india, taiwan and japan. about 75% of the products consumed here in south florida come from the gulf coast u.s. refineries. to put it in a number that people might be able understand 4.7 billion 4.7 billion 4.7 billion gallons of petroleum come into the port every year. the biggest challenge we have is balancing commerce and security. as you can imagine, being the sole provider of petroleum for south florida, having so many cruise a

the court versus the state. it is about the individual making the choice to marry -- with whom to marry. >> thank you, council. [indiscernible] >> would you like to take a moment? >> i will. thank you, chief justice. >> actually the court is ready. >> we are ready. refresher here actually. [laughter] >> mr. chief justice, may appease the court? the right to marry is part of dignity and excluding gay and lesbian means to take away the dignity. the the argument we have been discussing is whether this discrimination should persist is something that should be left to the political process or decided by the court. i would like to make three points about that if i could. i think it is important that if the court leaves this up to the what the court is saying that the second class citizenship gay and lesbian are receiving is consistent with equal protection of the law. that is not a wait and see. that is a validation. and to the extent the thought is this could be left to the political process because this issue will ta

the bureaucracy in the united states is one. there's a lot of distrust on the cuban end, they are not sure how quickly to open the doors to allow reforms to take place. it is slowing things down. they are moving slowly but in the right direction. >> i'm interested in the idea that they are not sure how quickly to move. has the possibility of a relationship with the united states changed what party leaders are saying, what young leaders in cuba are talking about in the future? >> well, just as in the united states there's not a consensus on whether this is a good idea or not, or how quickly relations with the united states and cuba should change, the same thing is true here. certainly the younger generation should see this, and want to see it forward. some people are questioning in this country the motives of the united states, whether they will try to move no or try to run the show as it did historically in this country. so that is certainly a reason why there is not a consensus even here in cuba, we are seeing na president raul

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they are much concerned that the united states is riveting away from the arab sunni states that have or less, we have to be careful about using the word allies. but i would say that the united emirates is a far stronger ally then for example, saudi arabia. at the same time you have a situation where the gcc are very much concerned that the lifting of sanctions is going to provide more funds to an iranian regime to allow mr. for the region. there is now a sore team military campaign against that development. the saudi's are truly to delegitimize their role as the custodian of the holy places. they are four main shiite rebellions in bahrain. they are very much a role in iraq and syria. the states are very concerned that the united states security blanket is more or less owing to event rate they decided to vote with their feet. host: the essay by marketing -- martinsbuc ginsburg. let's bring our callers into the conversation. john, ohio, independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to know why there is not a bigger discussion about islam, sunni versus shia? i think that there nee

time of the united states. longer it exists, the more entrenched it becomes, it's hard to say at the same time particularly in the areas of iraqs, the "ultimate 8" remaining for - in the medium term at least. >> it's hard to imagine saudi arabia, iran tolerating a long-term existence for the so-called islamic state. once it's defeated, the tens of thousands of fighters - it's hard to imagine heading home to birmingham, and taking up their lives as they were before. is this going to be a long-term problem? >> definitely the foreign fighters is a long-term problem. there was different parts history, spain, years ago. foreign fighters fighting what was an ideological battle. it's important as well to stress the motivation as to why people are fighting. those local to iraq or syria had local issues of feelings of misrepresentation, grievances against the government. them going back to the society is less problematic if they are given an alternative to anticipate. the foreign fighters - the reason they come to the "u

what would be the status of the former confederate states? what would happen to leaders of the rebellion? like jefferson davis and robert e lee. most importantly, what would happen to the 4 million formerly enslaved people in the south? finding answers to these questions was complicated by the fact that the civil war did not end with a peace treaty. there was no treaty signing on the deck of a battleship like at the end of world war ii. although lee surrendered at appomattox, grant did not bargain over the conflict. grant simply told lee his men could stack their arms and go home. president lincoln, and most members of the republican party, had it involves viewing the war from saving the popular government to a war that would end slavery and give the nation as lincoln said famously, a new birth of freedom. in the spring of 1865, lincoln is just getting his reconstruction act together and what we know comes from things he says in cabinet meetings and a speech he gives at the white house after lee's surrender at appomattox, but it is fragmentary

he was about the expansion of the united states, the security of the united states, the growth of theted states, but he saw that as connected with pushing indians native americans out of the way. there were native americans who wanted to be part of the united states, not all of them by any means, but john ross, this other main character certainly did. >> he's really the central other figure here, not nearly as well-known as jackson and yet he was a huge player in what happened in that period. >> i'd like him to be better known, judy. she's someone you see his name in history books, a couple of biographys have been written but more should be written about him because he is parted of the development of american democracy, too. he's part of a great democratic story. you have andrew jackson this man who was a very modest beginnings. no one so poor at the beginning of his life had ever become president before. john ross at the same time was being opposed by this man and used democratic tools to fight back. unlike other native american leaders, he didn't fight in a rebelon that would have b

including one from the state of vermont. the lovely state of vermont, continuing to be a big surprise for not good reasons. stay with us. >>> so in january, the speaker of the house in new york was arrested. on federal corruption charges. that was the speaker of the house. then last week, the leader of the state senate was arrested too. on totally different charges. but federal corruption charges, as well. the estate senate guy is charged basically with doing public favors for companies that paid money to his son. one problem, new york republicans have faced in terms of replacing him as head of the senate now that he's been arrested and indicted is that the number two republican in the state senate was also arrested and indicted last year, also on federal corruption charges, also for allegedly doing favors for companies who he wanted to help out his son. hey! legislators find it hard enough to decide what to do when their leadership gets indicted and arrested, even without the next in line guy having been indicted and arreste

so he was a resident of all these towns and traveled all over the state. so he really was a citizen of illinois. and i want to just mention one thing about the funeral because we can't quite understand we've seen so darn much tragedy and we're used to -- almost to assassinations, unfortunately. but this man was so loved by the people of the country because of seeing us through this war that the loss of him under these conditions created a national sense of mourning. and remember, the civil war, hundreds of thousands died in that war. and in far-away places. so many of the people of this country did not have the ability or the opportunity to mourn their own children that they'd lost, their loved ones. so the lincoln funeral became a funeral for all the martyrs of the war, and that's what made it such an incredible event. lincoln's resting place, there was controversy about that. the people in springfield wanted to build a monument in the middle of downtown and have that be lincoln's tomb. and that's where mary lincoln stood up and said, no, no, no you do tha

it nullifies the act by those states. nd incidentally, the last state that existed then to ratify the 13th amendment was mississippi. that was january, 2013, that mississippi finally ratified the 13th amendment to the constitution. talking about civil war and the reconstruction still continuing, they believed it was still on, because they had ratified that amendment until just recently. if you look in the federal register, finally, january of 2013, mississippi had that ratified, the 13th amendment to the constitution, 150 years later, almost. the other thing is, well, that is a radical, positive change, because it changes african-americans from property to persons. that was a great success of reconstruction. they are no longer property. they are persons. and then the 14th amendment, the 1866 civil rights bill that is embodied into the 14th amendment, that says that they are now also citizens. it simply says all persons born in these united states are citizens of these united states, a very clever amendment that was passed,

in the united states. and in europe. extiles of asia as part of the massive money lawnering scheme along with the outfit that pablo escobar himself set up in the 80s and 90es to run the medellin drug cartel this. is all in opec treasury department document to find on the web. so with buying as much as a billion dollars a year. and used cars. in the united states. cars that were generating almost no profits actually. exported the cars to west africa where the money was co-mingled with the trafficking proceeds and coming out of europe and the world that we live in is complicated. drugs were flowing. and the money was couriered to the united states and used cars here. and making its way into the lebanese canadian bank the center of the hizbollah money laundering empire. it remains the largest term sports team in the world for a terrorist group. and 2010 the d.a. began to construct the take down strategy that i helped to devise on. i will not get into the details. we organized the lebanese canadian bank. the patriot act that

the possibility of ward? would you plan to attack united states if the united states cut the oil? japan would never attack the big united states. we can do this with no aggression. we just cut the oil and japan will withdraw. there will be peace then i christian china will arise. according to the gallup polls 75% of americans were convinced of this argument. you could cut the oil easily. roosevelt said over and over if i cut the oil there will be war. if there are tremendous arguments within the roosevelt administration. 75% of public is for cutting japan's oil and fdr's against it. finally in july of 1941 roosevelt was going to leave the country secretly. he's going to go up to canada to meet with winston churchill in what would later be called the atlantic conference. before he leaves he makes a speech at hyde park. he makes a plea to all americans. he lays his cards on the table why he is going with this unpopular policy of continuing the oil to japan. he says to the public there's a world war ii going on. there's a world world war going on all over the world and one of the thi

they are attempting targets for the united states when the united states goes to war with spain. the proximity to china, to this big market in china. the ability to get into that market is what motivates many americans to think about the philippines. here are the islands. the united states intervenes in the philippines because of its potential use for the united states as a staging ground for asia and it is the center of the spanish fleet in asia. once they go to war with spain the u.s. naval fleet under admiral george dewey attacks the spanish. he have left the philippines and let the united states in charge. the american plan was to take manila. everyone seem and noah? use manila as a base, and let the filipinos rule themselves. it doesn't work that way. the very nationalist forces the united states brought back will immediately claim the united states should not have control of manila. the night is states will find itself with an unprepared war for more than three years against various filipino groups who we thought were our friends. they didn't want us there. 41 months of warf

inside the state and outside the state.ar i spent on outside, i got $100 return if i would audit the company. a lot says, this is a gray line. we'll stop it right there. if they say something, we'll say it was an honest mistake because we interpreted it differently. you have to have auditors watching continuously. when we used to cut back budgets on flat line them i would increase the outside auditors budget because they can help me get out of the hole quicker. common sense. no different than how you'd run your business or household. spending in these offices are often positive investments. unfortunately, when we try to cut funding we do it as net loss to the government. when the offices have cuts the federal government loses money. since we lose out on their ability to save money from other programs. that's why i'll be introducing legislation to require the general accounting office to designate the federal offices that have saved more money than they've spent. i think it would be an eye opener for all of us. that's common

in november the state chancellor made a plan for restoration of the board. it was tied to the local board assuming leadership. some are troubled by that concept, but i was gratifyed the state chancellor came windup a plan for restoration and it has moved at a accelerated place. in march we begain running our meet jgz took on responsibility for student service. this month weep take on every bullet finance and in july we take on all the colleges affairs. the special trustee will remain with us. he is a special trustee that has the capacity to make board decision that are [inaudible] or financial stability. as a practical matter that isn't going to change. the state is giving us 10s of millions of dollars that no other district in the state getting so they want and the state legislator made clear they want eyes on the ground not just as a resource for the board but for the administration to guide the college and be the state challengelers person on the ground. i have found this special trustee needs to be extremely knowledgeable, a resorcer i'm relying on and b

the legislature. so this is a conflict between big states and small states and the slave states and the free states. and they were at an impasse. how should slaves be counted for purposes of representation? what saved the convention, although allowed slavery to continue until it was finally eradicated after the 13th amendment passed after the civil war, something known as the 3/5 compromise. the 3/5 cover mice was proposed by james wilson of pennsylvania as the great architect of popular sovereignty. and it was seconded by charles pixley of south carolina. i am standing here with the south carolina delegation, including pinckney and also john rutledge, and finally charles koch's worth -- charles cotesworth. pinckney believed it was a way of reconciling the maintenance of slavery with the political concerns of the northern states. here is what the 3/5 clause famously or infamously said, reading for my riveting national constitution center pocket constitution. i think you can get these on amazon now. if you go on to our website, we should get them up and running which has this completely thrilling intr

if the state doesn't acquire them. 'll be lost forever. >> the group spearheaded the campaign for what is known as amendment one. >> what is more important than protecting florida's natural people... >> reporter: an initiative on the ballot last year earmarking $750 million a year for the next 20 years so the state could buy and conserve land for critical environmental projects,ed paid for with tax. >> protecting the florida we love and the people we love. 75% of floridians voted yes, to approve the largest environmental initiative history, and guarantee more that enough money to buy the u.s. sugar land. with days left in the florida legislative session, the deal looks doomed. >> do we have comments, if not. we'll un lock the... >> florida lawmakers must approve the sugar land money by the end of the legislative session. the state's offer to buy ends in ob. the republican dominated legislate jur in tallahassee declined to vote on the sugar land purchase, steering $200 million of the amendment money to other projects. >>

but they don't do it because the states have higher burden of proof. they hand it off to the feds who have a lower burden of proof, and then they can take the money. >> well, sometimes the feds have a higher burden of proof than the states. the states vary widely on this . what the good points? >> quickly because we're almost out of time . >> they account for more than half of the money forfeited in most-- >> large drug cases. >> not drug cases for the most part they're white-collar cases against foreign banks that are engaged in money laundering, breaking the u.s. embargo with iran, things like that. forfeiting billions of dollars. and i'm not saying all of those are great cases but at least they've got the--they're not wasting their time taking money from innocent drivers. >> thank you very much to both of our guests. coming up next, homemade micro videos that are getting the attention of hollywood and corporate america. what makes them so profitable. >> tomorrow. >> my idea of a fun night out? a bit of anarchy! >> punk legend, john lydon. >> my weapo

also the largest coastline in the united states. at the busiest container port in the state of florida, $26 billion of economic activity throughout the state resulting from the container activity here at the port. we also had over 6000 jobs directly tied to that container activity as well as over 200,000 jobs throughout the state. the containers that are leaving here generally are foodstuffs, computers, computer printers, auto parts. we serve as the grocery store for the caribbean. the containers coming -- produce . bananas being the top commodity, melons, we are the top perishable port also in the state of florida, being a consumer market here in south florida, we enjoy our fruits and vegetables. in 1930, 1931 was the original establishment of petroleum terminals will stop there were originally three petroleum terminals, now we have 13 different petroleum terminals, privately operated within the port, that provide the fuel. not just for the transportation vehicles but we also provide all the jet fuel from the three international maj

the united states is carrying out aerial bombings to support the effort. mer state department official ramzy mardini told the military times -- "the u.s. has effectively changed its position, coming to the realization that shiite militias are a necessary evil in the fight against isis." the united states has also expedited shipment of 1000 additional at4 anti-tank weapons for iraqi forces. joining us now is charles glass, former abc news chief middle east correspondent. his latest book is titled, "syria burning: isis and the death of the arab spring." charles, first address this latest news that the self proclaimed islamic state has moved from ramadi and is now taken over the ancient city of palmyra in syria, and that isis now controls more than half of syria. >> it hasn't moved from ramadi. the islamic state is fighting a two front war. because the kurdish regional government -- against the kurdish regional government and against the syrian army. they have substantial forces on both sides and are able to attack in both places. as we've seen with how myra i

the islamic state making significant gains in three countries. the radical islamic terrorists seizing more than half of syria including the last government-controlled border crossing between syria and iraq. in iraq, they've followed up their capture of ramadi by overrunning another town in anbar province. they've taken muammar gadhafi's hometown. how to slow the advance. we'll discuss that with ralph peters. a manhunt coming to an end. the man accused of brutally murdering a washington dc, family and their housekeeper before setting it on fire. we have two the best attorneys on this case. but we do begin with the state department's decision to release the first batch of clinton emails. on the friday before this long memorial day weekend. fox news correspondent james went through the roughly 300 emails and brings us this report. >> in the 296 emails the state department uploaded often redact then secretary of state hillary clinton is seen receiving updates on the benghazi attacks for weeks after they claimed the lives of chris stevens and three oth

the states may have legalized marijuana, but, you know, we can work with the state and local police departments we can take those cases, federal and prosecutor at the federal level. >> we are going to continue the conversation with hillary and michael when we come back. one of the things that makes the federal system workable is a rough harmony, but when the laws require diametrically imposed ideas about enforce: can it last? the business of pot is tonight's "inside story". federal system workable is a >>> welcome back to "inside story", where we have been talking about the business of marijuana. we are talking from hillary and michael, who used to be with the drug enforcement agency. >> meb nebraska and sue suing over marijuana laws, will this be a problem. >> it could. i advise client, what is enemy number one - it'suably not in my backyard neighbour. i don't think that nebraska and oklahoma will be the last states to say hey, federal government, you need to enforce the controlled steps act. for those of us in the union that don't want to legalize. >> and there - there the rub, isn't it. if y

>> that's just what the state has. one of the things i did want to mention, there was something called a disclose act floated last year at the state level. they're talking about it. it's very speculative now, where they thought that it might possibly move to three. there is no language yet. again, it's speculative, if it did change to three, that would be a simple clean up, of course we want it to be three as well we basically say, follow what the state law does and augment it by doing these three things, and the third thing is refer to our website, they do this in la thought it was a good idea our it guy is wonderful, he puts up great info graphics, in terms of spending and the reports are available online. so while people might see who the top donors are a trigger like this to go to the website -- >> to me that makes a lot of great sense i don't know if three is sufficient to have on the mailer, but certainly, with the website where the information can be gathered is a step forward. >> so then again this is sort of an

you believe the states ought to have the flexibility to go beyond that. notwithstanding some of the issues that that might create in terms of having different standards. how about this enforcement question. have you looked at our bill in terms of the enforcement provisions in the bill, and how would you suggest they would be improved upon in your view. >> i can't -- i have looked at it, i'm not prepared to provide a detailed response, i would be happy to in writing if you prethat. i do think the key issue with respect to enforcement, your bill would only facilitate enforcement by federal agencies -- >> whey heard you say is that allowing the state ag's some kind of role there would be an improvement? again, not having looked at the details there, not to put words in your mouth. >> yes yes, i believe that a very credible element here is that we must have enforcement. >> we are willing to try to improve the bill so we can get a greater consensus around we believe that -- i think as you said, a national standard is important to have. 50 different standards i

or one part of the country or another. within states, and sometimes like you said about new york city, within small geographic areas. what we say is this work is for policy makers, philanthropists or business leaders, to understand where are the areas that are surging ahead and doing well, parts of thriving america, and where are the parts that are struggling, and what can we learn in terms of these data, focussing away from only economic metrics to understand challenges of these communities. >>> surging ahead. that we are trying to learn something from the communities, a lot of people in the economic world, financial reporters look at things like inflation, g.d.p. in terms of showing where the growth is. you didn't include the statistics like everything else. why not. >> if we pay attention, overrely on them, we get misleading signals. look at the example, california, number one ranked district. high tech. the very bottom district in the whole country, also in california, around bakers field. that district is an agricultural powerhouse

states with civil unions that were the equivalent of marriage, tim states of recognition in 10 states with nothing. it was never more than a guideline but that was the guideline for when they would be prepared to go to the supreme court knowing full well and i is a constitutional scholar endorse this to be supreme court is loath to tread too far ahead from public opinion so that we see in many of our landmark cases like round versus board of education or lawrence versus texas or in the international -- inter-racial marriage context the supreme court is washing out outliers so by the time loving versus virginia was decided in 196734 states had inter-racial marriage in the supreme court was just washing out the 16 states that did not have it yet. at the time lawrence versus texas was decided in 2000. that was the case that said you couldn't ban or criminalize same-sex sexual intimacy. only 14 states have such bans on the books, so 13 states had dance on their books so those were easy for the court to wash out. the scenario of the court doesn't want is the roe v. wade situation where the

particularly, those in the east new england states. northern abolitionists were outraged by the kansas-nebraska act. they hated slavery abolitionists did, but they could live with it as long as it state the load 36/30. now slavery conceivably spread all the way to the pacific ocean. so armed and heavily financed groups of abolitionists backed by new england concerns and eight societies, boston connecticut, rhode island, maine, ohio, new york they reported anti-slave -- -- anti-slavery abolitionist to stop kansas from becoming a slave state. missouri saw these yankees pointing to kansas territory they knew they were going to have a fight on their hands, and the mixture of abolitionists and proslavery mingling together in kansas territory -- the territory exploded in violence warfare, terrorism. it attracted men like john brown and his sons and starting in 1854, a low-grade, pre-civil war began in kansas. it was nicknamed bleeding kansas. 1854 until kansas became a free state, 1861, warfare was going on in kansas territory over who would

now, texas does have a system which ensures that anyone made a ward of the state has the right to a court appointed lawyer. many states don't even give that protection. so while texas and some of the stories we heard in texas were pretty shocking and disturbing there are other states where when guardianship cases take place, individuals made wards of the state have absolutely no right to have anyone speak for them to have nothing said in their defense. >> how is it that guardians, when they're chosen and they're either monitored in some way? is there an agency that monitors what the guardians do? >> that's part of the problem. most often guardians are family members, and usually in those cases the system works well. when guardians are outsiders, there is very little oversight. it's very expensive to carry on an effective monitoring system so that you know what's happening to the ward you know that the -- what is happening is appropriate for the ward and you know that the guardian is doing the job that he or she is supposed to do. there is a provision in law, certainly in texas, where guar

i talked about the state of civil liberties in the united states and the way these russians had taken place. they interviewed me after for their high school newspaper. one of the things they said, they said a lot more interesting things than i did because it really has an impact. one thing they put it out as they said, look, you keep talking about all these changes to the civil liberties landscape and the way in which we have freedoms in this country, but one of the things you keep talking about is you make it seem like there are these great changes, there was the world pre-9/11 and now post-9/11. they told me for people who are our age, 15, 16 years old, we were four years old at the time of 9/11. really, there is no pre-9/11 world we know. our political consciousness has been shaped almost exclusively by the post-9/11 world. as is all we know. what we consider extremist and radical and threatening is for them increasingly more and more americans coming of age in the post-9/11 world all they know. it's normal. not objectionable, something they don't even pay much thought to in terms