like the people who have done perr this the best over the last few years are like nikki haley in south carolina, rick. texas, the texas recidivism rate is like just a bit more than one third the national average texas recidivism rate is liketh 10%. the liberals and cynics mightlo say the reason the recidivism rate is so low it is becausema they execute people and there are 236 people who couldn't possibly recidivate, but i will say this, conservative republicans and southernled thea especially in the southy governors have really led the way over the last five or six years on both the front end on sentencing reform and then on trying to be more compassionate inside of prisons in a way that. will reduce recidivism and it's a credit and nathan made this ao focus of his governorship. john kasey kahne ohio, not only reelection did he focus on this, but he ran for reelection specifically on this issue, which is pretty encouraging to me. >> audience questions. yes? we have a microphone and we will come to you. >> my name is dave price, retirement journalist.'s gentlemen, thank you for yourat i'm sure there are times you kind of regret

rate is, like, just a little more than one-third the national average. texas recidivismrate is, like, 23%, right? they're doing great. the best prison i had ever been in, that's in texas. they, you know, and the liberals and cynics might say, well, the reason the recidivism rate is so low is because at the execute so many people. there's 236 people who couldn't possibly resid vat. i will say this. conservative republicans and southern especially in the south governors have really led the way over the last five or six years on both on the inside -- you know, on the front end on sentencing reform and then on trying, you know, to be more compassionate inside of prisons in a way that will reduce recidivism. and it's a credit and nathan diehl's made this a focus of his governorship. john kasich in ohio. not only did he focus on this, but then he ran for re-election on specifically, you know, this issue which is pretty encouraging to me. so -- >> audience questions. yes. we've got a microphone. it will come to you. please -- yes. >> my name's dave price, retired journalist and

rate is, like, just a little more than one-third the national average. texas recidivismrate is, like, 23%, right? they're doing great. the best prison i had ever been in, that's in texas. they, you know, and the liberals and cynics might say, well, the reason the recidivism rate is so low is because at the execute so many people. there's 236 people who couldn't possibly recidivate. i will say this. conservative republicans and southern especially in the south governors have really led the way over the last five or six years on both on the inside -- you know, on the front end on sentencing reform and then on trying, you know, to be more compassionate inside of prisons in a way that will reduce recidivism. and it's a credit and nathan diehl's made this a focus of his governorship. john kasich in ohio. not only did he focus on this, but then he ran for re-election on specifically, you know, this issue which is pretty encouraging to me. so -- >> audience questions. yes. we've got a microphone. it will come to you. please -- yes. >> my name's dave price, retired journalist an

nathan deal of georgia, rick perry in texas the recidivism rate is like 23%. they are doing great. the best present i have ever been in that house in texas. at the liberals and cynics might say the reason the rate is so low is because they execute so many people. governors have led the way over last five or six years both on the front end on sentencing reform. not only did he focus on this but then he ran for the reelection. once again with an accolade and then to go to my question first, gentlemen, thank you there's times you regret what happened to you but i think that it's been my impression working in irvine schools and areas to one population is probably least represented as prisoners. so that's good and by question kind of comes along with that. you talked about old about this has been the reaction of so much to you personally that your message i think is an important message. are they beginning to act, obviously it's going to be multiple things but. only in only a political only in the political lines as is being received differently it's just as you imagined, some people --