if it were organised by the u.a.w., if you bring in temp workers sitting side by side on the line doinghe job, that seems absurd to say while these are union workers doing the same job under the same direction with the same supervisors, but they are not union, that will create a huge loophole in what we mean by organization. it's important to remember what has really happened here, why the fracturing of the labour force. we have really destroyed and turned over labour and job ladders for workers. just an an example, if you went back in the late 1990s, when many manufacturers had janitors and private security guards, they were steps up. you might work on the mission as a jan tore. today in automotive - they are in janitorial services. they are not in the auto industry, they are in private security guards. huge. >> is it necessarily going to change the cost profile of the things people buy every day to change the power relationship between the workers and bosses. >> if we talk about mcdonald's, yes, joerts, no -- general motors, no. suppose they are using contract employees, they'll form