our unions, the u.f.t., i work and teach in new york city. a lot of times it's problems with the older buildings, asbestos, pcb, things of that nature. the u.f.c. has come to the defense of the kids. stopping work, making sure the school is a safe environment to learn in. so, they do some good as well. i agree with you, they have become a large political, powerful machine in my school, there are a lot of people that don't agree with their political agenda. they are out there. people are afraid to speak up. >> glenn: your money speaks louter than your words. josephine? a very long microphone. >> i believe we need competition. when you are in business, you want a good product, you have competition. >> glenn: unions are squashing the competition. you don't want competition, joe. >> that's not true. >> glenn: okay. >> that's a distortion. i'm saying i come from business, a former chief financial officer, i understand economics. i'm a capitalist, believe me. >> glenn: just not in education. >> here is the deal. here is where the business model fund