and so what we're trying to do at the u.s.t.a. is constantly remind people without the wired network you're not going to have the wireless network. so the policy makers i think understand it better than ever that you need fiber facilities into these cell towers in order to enable them to carry broad band at faster and faster speeds which and you need better access to broad band capables in the home. >> jeff gardner is president and c.e.o. of the wind stream corporation and he is chairman of us telecom. >> we talked about universal service fund reform and one issue facing the f.c.c. right now is how to pay for this fund going forward. they took a historic step to broad band service rather than telephone service. and for years while the fund supported telephone service it was paid for by telephone customers. how should the f.c.c. approach this issue and who should pay into this fund? >> it's a real difficult issue. it's ironic it's being funded by the part of the industry that is declining which doesn't seem like it's going to be abl