jefferson's first state of the union had just over 3000 words. this would swell to over 10,000 under millard fillmore, who appears from time to time, irregularly in this class. it would average about 19,000 under the progressive theodore roosevelt, and hit a high of 22,614 words under the conservative william howard taft. our most loquacious modern president is bill clinton and his speeches delivered before congress would average about 7400 words, just to give you a comparison of the different. the last time a president submitted a written address was jimmy carter, upon leaving office in 1981. and that written address was, in the modern era, significant, 33,000 words. his final, orally-delivered was about 3400. president trump's was not the greatest, not the smallest. >> what is the difference between the written and the oral addresses? can a president still submit a written address? prof. ubertaccio: the answer between what is the difference is only relieved that they are longer, but that is just by style. there is nothing constitutionally ordain

of the union is delivered in january 1969, the final. a short time before richard nixon would take the oath of office. ofs was delivered at the end the term, a custom they no longer subscribe to. president carter delivered it in writing. ronald reagan chose a farewell address. none since carter formally had a state of the union with january as the final couple of weeks in office. note the wilsonian conception. not only is he moving it into prime time so millions of americans can watch. while he'd knowledge is -- acknowledges it can never get together perfectly, total respect is importantly. that means respect for the presidency and policy issues. of1969, we are coming off significant legislative enactments by johnson. height of an activist federal government. the union was designed, in part, to harness the power of the executive. the opposition party was not going to allow an increase in viewership to happen without a response. in 1966, republican congressional leaders gave the first official response to a state of the union address. it

>> on the state of the union, i don't know what the view is of whether the state of the union should one or not. but i do know that this is something that every president since woodrow wilson has done. the first two presidents gave their state of the union speech in person. jefferson didn't particularly like to speak in person, so he started sending it up. but every president since wilson has come to the capitol, given that speech at, frankly, some pretty tense times. they were never so tense that the congress couldn't join together to welcome the president to the legislative branch to get that speech done. that ought to happen and it ought to happen next week. >> dana: senator roy blunt, we hope you come back. >> good to talk to you. >> dana: teachers in another major u.s. city preparing to go on strike. what they're demanding. and protests erupting in venezuela as the opposition leader declares victory. how the president is now responding. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an

does the state of the union matter. does it play a useful role in the relationship between congress and the president? what is the state of the union? >> thank you all for coming. molly knows more about congress and the people who wrote article i. it is great to have her here. i want to quote my colleagues who said "the union has a state even if there is no speech." which i felt was a wonderful idea, which is why we are here. i want to answer the first part briefly, answer the second part and then go back to the first part. state of the union speech i think is still useful, but it is less useful than it used to be because of polarization and your a, on yourpends attitude towards presidential power and b, on your attitude towards the president who happens to be in power at a given moment. the state of the union is fair and balanced. i don't mean that in quite the sense that our friends at fox news mean it. important fact about today versus a year ago is that the democrats took over the house of representatives. i think we

which means it doesn't mean we leave without agreements the european union's already. made preparations for a w.t. or breaks it for the united kingdom and some some yes and there are other issues to be resolved but in the end i still believe that miss eight is b.m.w. will want to send a cost to the united kingdom tariff free but if we need to charge tariffs on their on their vehicles so be it well they've been very quiet about that haven't they you've expected the titans of german industry to come forward and support your line but they haven't done them have they well it's quite clear that in germany the european union is seen by the hierarchy as more important than anything else more important than german jobs more important than german trade with the united kingdom i have to confess i'm a little bit surprised by that but that's a matter for germany but you know all you need to do is listen to what they've said i mean this was from the industry group the german industry group the p.d.i. . some seven and a half percent of german exports go to the u.k. big number but nin

i will accept none of us knows what the risks if we leave the european union. the most momentous decision that the british are being required to take in forty years. and you know what the risks are so sort of fly with me and we'll see what happens yes yes but that's it isn't it is the whole point is that if we don't think the country is worth more than then the whole point is if we put the x in the box in the right box on the ballot paper we then have two years of hopefully a responsible government hopefully a responsible chain that when they go ship eight eight at exit package which is hundred one is a thirty hundred word it's like surely isn't it may be you know with luck yes as is this is a huge gamble you want the british people and it's a huge it's a huge gamble for both sides a nervous time for you coming up to the referendum so nervous that you've even started talk about what it would be like to lose haven't you. well what i was actually trying to do was say that the leave campaign has made no attempt at all to describe what a post that u.k. would look li

in his first to six of the union address, 46 million people tuned in, the state of the union gives theresident and unfiltered channel directly to the american people to make his case and he would stand up there and say i offered compromise, whether it is a wall or a barrier, the number of miles, the amount of money, i'm even giving sweeteners on immigration democrats have been asking for and they won't negotiate with me. madam speaker, will you sit down with me and negotiate, she doesn't want that to happen. this is a move out of weakness because she knows how powerful this is and wants to take the platform away from the president so they can continue to obfuscate and obstruct and not participate and compromise. daymac they don't want to have the debate about what the solution is. >> the coequal branch -- the history of the republic -- >> he didn't say -- >> i want to be sure to get a couple other polls, the president's job approval, job performance rating, 43% approve, 54 disapprove but if you think that is bad, let's look at congress's. 18% approval rating, 67% disapproval rating. >>

leave the european union the transition like the march with or without a withdrawal agreement but that could question is that by act of parliament this could be altered by act of parliament this would be very unusual you claimed last week that the prime minister despite the political defeat of laertes huge political defeat she suffered is now in a very strong position to go back to the e.u. and tell them to change the agreements so that it's acceptable to the house of commons very strong position really having suffered the worst defeat of any persisted house of commons history but look what's transpired over the weekend the prime minister seems to be going back to the european union invited by angela merkel no less who has said that fifty years from now it would look very strange if we didn't look back and say well why couldn't they find a compromise and i think some kind of compromise is what she needs to find a compromise that could. bring the deal you pay back on board a compromise that would bring a large number of conservative m.p.'s back on board. is still a possibility and i wou

but it would have to apply european union law and the european union would have to treat the u.k. as if it was a member of the european union so there is almost two years to negotiate a trade and only if that fails only if there is not a trade deal we will have to apply the backstop so the backstop as you just said is the insurance policy we signed to avoid hot water on the irish island so why are we not talking about plan any well let's stick with plain deed then why not say the backstop has to stay as it is but agree that it has a time limit. because there has to be a trade agreement within the next two years that's in the interest of the british side and interest of the european union why are we not optimistic enough to negotiate i mean that's been one of the most important arguments of those of the exits years of those at the catering breck's it was that they are able to negotiate a trade deal with the european union let's do it and let's be let's begin on first of april to negotiate the trade deal and let's even do the following let's begin now to clarify what the terms of s

it's really fdr who calls it the state of the union. and then it goes from being an afternoon event to being a tv extravaganza. the big thing that donald trump's losing ostensibly is his 50-plus million viewers mandatory tv watching. but it can be postponed. i mean, ronald reagan postponed the state of the union address because of the challenger disaster, and waited a week later to do it. and of course you could go and there have been weird moments like gerald ford in 1975 actually went and said the state of the union is not good. that's what we're dealing with right now, not a good situation. >> david, this afternoon you tweeted after two years of bullying at real donald trump has found himself nose to nose with an opponent willing and able to push back, but the government remains partially shuttered, and to what end. >> yes. >> what about that? to what end does the government remain shut down? >> well, you know, here's where the democrats have a bit of a high ground, because they've offered to reopen the government and continue to nego

the union was in the midst of a terrible losing streak. these european powers concluded one more union loss, and they were going to step in and divide these warring nations in half. the two powers in question were england and france. england just loved the idea of stepping in. i mean, england had fought a war, less than 100 years, the revolutionary war. they loved the idea that these colonies were so out of control, that they descended into civil war and only england could step in and they could divide one nation into two and they would of course be a weak two nations whereas a strong one nation before. france also loved the idea of dividing the two countries in half, or dividing the country in half, permanently. france was actually at the time of the civil war, they were actually fighting a war in mexico. in fact, cinco de mayo is actually commemorating a battle on may the 5th, 1862 in which the mexicans defeated the french. the french very much liked the idea of having a confederate buffer above mexico which they hoped would be theirs and

in the customs union of the european union is that is that how we are to understand that tonight. the distinction brand is that it's well known the brick city is in the in the can her party will never allow a bricks that keeps britain in the customs union because it will prevents any chance of britain form in its own trade deals with other countries around the world because it will be tied to the e.u. trade policy so what must happen is some sort of middle way perhaps where britain stays in a customs arrangement a customs union if you like for goods which is a very well as long as stablished part of the single market with the e.u. but perhaps it retains the freedom to make its own trade deals in services and we know that this is one of the big growth areas the british government wants to explore with the u.s. for example in trying to make deals to get contracts in government procurement that could be a way forward but isn't that something david that the european union at least up until now has categorically rejected that it wasn't going to separate services for example from. goods

elections to the european parliament when we're planning to leave the european union just nine months later tell your sympathies are suddenly with them see well i'm i'm i'm. devarim to be understanding of the difficulties that we're facing but the keep repeating the pall of our parliament has spoken and legislated both main parties were elected on the basis of the. triggering of article fifty which set the date for the twenty ninth of march and that is now implemented in law. you've been saying that no deal is increasingly attractive but that's not what you and your vote leave colleagues promised the country was it time and again they promise great deals with the e.u. and everyone else instead they just fall into britain slap to them they turned out to be no student well. i have to confess that i think it's in the european union's interests to strike a sensible free trade deal with the united kingdom and whether we make that agreement before we leave which looks rather unlikely now or after we leave i believe that that's what will happen but in the end my point is that really b

shannon: what is going to happen with the state of the union? panel, former economic advisor austin goolsby and the publisher of the federalist and best-selling author, conservative commentator, welcome to you all. there is this talk tonight of whether the state of the union can go as planned when the president goes over to the hill, quite an undertaking. our senior capitol hill producer said from a pelosi spokesperson the office of the speaker has been contacted by a furloughed dhs employee who expressed serious concerns the state -- the department has insufficient staffing levels to manage the security needs of the state of the union do to furloughs of critical staff. >> this is kind of a ludicrous conjecture given we are going to see a couple events that take place in the next couple days in washington dc, the march for life friday, the women's march saturday, both of which have significant security concerns particularly given the locations they are going to be. the idea this is a security-based decision is laughable and i think the media if

, let's look at what the state of the union usually is. it's a set piece, right, and there have -- you and i can remember many truly memorable presidential speeches over the time we've been covering presidents, not that many of them are state of the union addresses. i mean, they're not generally great speeches. they're usually laundry lists more than speeches. sometimes, you know, because of the moment or the man, the speech rises above but that's unusual, but there is something comforting ability the ritual. it's, you know, every year at this time we have it, and it's mr. speaker, and they all come down the aisle, and they all stand and one side gets up and the other side sits down, and the supreme court can't do anything. i remember when nancy pelosi, the first time she became speaker, and that image of, you know, a woman sitting there behind the president, that changed america. i mean, that changed us in an increment. >> then we had the first african-american president, and then we had the first african-american president to be heckled f

gives to the european union because it's a donor to the european union rather than the receiver of money and they wanted to take back laws from the european union and they didn't necessarily vote. it's to stop any sort of trading arrangement with the european union and so she contracts a deal with the european union the did all those things that allows the u.k. to stop free movements that guarantees the rights of u.k. citizens inside the european union and that takes back the money and takes back the laws at least for the toilet for a while keep the trading arrangement open while the u.k. can figure out what to do instead and she went to them and said how about it you know what you think that's that's what people more or less voted for isn't it. and they all said no it isn't you know and as a said before it's like a child being being promised are going to be given a racing car for christmas and then that given being given a rusty bicycle instead of being told you you've got to get on that you know no thanks i don't i don't want to get on that at all and i think to a large extent she must

either you stay in the european union, or you have a deal. i believe that it is right for us to leave the european union, because that is what people voted for in the referendum in 2016. if you want no deal, they have to be willing to agree to a deal. the point of us sitting down and talking with people across this house is identify those issues on which it will be possible for us to secure support to make changes, such that we can secure support around this house. i think him for his comments in terms of their fees and applications for citizens rights. friends. my honorable but also, this was an issue that was raised by other members across this house. say to the, i will right honorable gentleman, as i've said before and will continue to say, the scottish national party, to stand up and say the best economic future for scotland is to be outside the -- i have tom is a say to every one of those members who is chairing that thought, that is to fly in the face of economic reality. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i wonder whether the prime minister and

either you stay in the european union or you have a deal. elieve that it is right for us to leave the european union because that was what people voted for in the referendum in 2016. if you don't want no deal, they have to be willing to agree a deal. the point about sitting down and talking with people across this house is to identify those issues on which it will be possible for us to make changes such that we can secure support around this house. i thank you for the comments about the announcement we made today about the fees for applications for citizens. i commend my honorable friends the members for south leicestershire and bexhill and battle, and it was also raised by other members across this house. finally, i will say to the right honorable gentleman as i have said before and will continue to say, that for the scottish national party to stand up and say that the best economic future for scotland is to be outside the united kingdom is to fly -- i have to say to everyone of those members cheering that thought, it is to fly in the face o

>> where the state of the union is delicious! >> it's "the late show with stephen colbert." tonight, the state of confusion. plus, stephen welcomes matthew mcconaughey and musical guest better oblivion community center. featuring jon batiste and stay huma ivapom suln th new y ci, colrt! ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: wooo! there here we go! here we go! wooo! ladies and gentlemen, what a lovely crowd. welcome, welcome, one and all to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. and i come before you tonight to declare that the state of our union is "i-unno." because nobody, nobody knows if we're going to have a state of the union address. the situation is chaotic and bitter and confusing-- which is actually the state of our union. see, here's how we got here. last week, speaker pelosi sent a very polite letter to the president telling him to stay away because he smells bad and his mother dresses him funny. ( laughter ) subtext. ( laughter ) she also cited security concerns. well, today, the president lettered back, saying

i dislike the state of the union. trump can do it from the oval office. president of the 20th century. it was not his greatest crime. i think nancy pelosi and your explanation for why she does want to do the security thing buys into the idea that it is a ceremony for a king and it is lame and dumb. she should say we don't want you and own it. >> bret: doesn't happen or not? >> it might not happen because she is taking this position where she can truly back down by saying it is fine. >> the constitution requires that, so what will happen one way or the other. >> bret: panel, thank you very much. when we come back a very special homecoming. ♪ i'm ken jacobus and i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. he

this is the state of the union address. lou: i feel like i should withdraw the question, congressman, but i just -- i'm frankly -- i cannot believe the ma la detroit politics of the left and their in indifference o what was once their base, working men and women, middle class america, small business. they've sold out to, i guess, illegal immigrants, various special interests. >> how about the union workers in youngstown, ohio, the union workers in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. the hardworking families. lou: trump democrats. >> i gave a speech before the election in youngstown and there were 500 people that showed up at this republican i vent in youngstown, ohio. they want a wall built. i know it's good for this nation. they know they want this president to keep fighting hard to make sure that happens. >> i want to take up if we may, very quickly here, the letter that you and congressman mark meadows have sent seeking more information about the criminal case against james baker, the former general council of the fbi. >> yeah. lou

to submit her plan b to exit the european union. f 1%, the other markets lower as well. cheryl: asia right now is mostly lower. the south korean kotsbe a slight gain there. lauren: what apple is doing right now that could anger some people. "fbn: a.m." continues right now. lauren: we're coming up on 5:30 in the morning in new york. it is thursday, january 17th. i'm lauren simonetti. cheryl: good morning, i'm cheryl casone. lauren: earnings season pretty good so far. it continues with morgan stanley and netflix due today. let's dig into the numbers with gary smith, fox news contributor and come an dominic divello. dominic, i want to begin with you. we've seen a small number of companies report so far but more than 85% have beaten expectations. so the question is, do you expect to see earnings rise more than the expected 14%? >> well, look, we clearly had priced in a worst case scenario in the fourth quarter, world, global, synchronized recession and under those circumstances earnings were going to be disappointing. we're finding the w

. >> mister speaker, and the government ruled out any form of customs union with the european union as part of a reaching out exercise. prime minister confirmed that is the case? >> the exercise i indicated last night is about listening to the views of the house and understanding the views of parliamentarians to understand what could command the support of the house and deliver on the referendum and what the government wants to do is ensure we deliver on the result of the referendum leaving the european union and we want to do it in a way that ensures we respect the votes of those who voted to stay in the referendum meaning free movement and getting a fair deal for fishermen and opening new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world and neighbors in europe. >> my question was about the customs union. your in denial about that as much as she is in denial about the decision made by the house last night. the business secretary told business leaders on a conference call last night we can't have no deal for all the reasons send out. prime minister reassure the house and confirm this

first, the state of the union address is cancelled. the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, just told the president and all of us that he's not welcome until the government is reopened. this began about 1 1/2 hours ago when president trump wrote a letter to the democratic leader explaining he does plan to deliver the annual speech in front of congress as scheduled. that letter reads in party "it would be so very sad for our country if the state of the union were not delivered on time, on schedule and very importantly on location." moments ago, the speaker answered that letter with one of her own saying she won't consider a resolution that authorizes his address in the house chamber until the government is reopened. so now what? john roberts reporting live from the white house. where they go something. >> i don't know. yet to be seen. clearly i mean, this is all parliamentary language in this letter that nancy pelosi sent the president just a short time ago after the president sent nancy pelosi this one. forgive the highlighter. it's the

also with the state of the union shutdown, now there's a fight over shutting down the state of the unionovernment is back open and running again. four americans are killed in an isis related suicide attack in syria and after that, the vice president says isis has been defeated. and the president that insists he's been tough on russia and the ambassador says that's not true and someone has to account for w

president re-open the government before negotiations with border wall funding, plus the state of the unionuncertain. house democrats say no prime time platform for the president while the government is still shut down. the president will speak tuesday night. location and format, tbd. count pete buttigieg in and count him as number nine, today the mayor of south carolina, an afghanistan veteran, a rhodes scholar and just 37 years old. >> i belong to a generation that is stepping forward right now. we're the generation that lived through school shootings, that served in the wars after 9/11 and we're the generation that stands to be the first to make less than our parents unless we do something different. >> we begin the hour with movement on capitol hill, but no real hope that movement will actually lead to a solution, this on day 33 of the partial government shutdown. pictures here, federal employees protesting in the hart senate office building this hour. those folks dreading, no doubt, the second missed paycheck come friday. the second, the senate will vote on two opposing bill, and one f

trump could give his state of the union address. the president now vow to give that address at an alternative location and to keep fighting to build the wall or steel barrier to secure or southern border and resolve our national crisis. >> she doesn't want to hear the truth and she doesn't want to hear, more importantly, the american people to hear the truth. i think that's a great blotch on the incredible country that we all love. it's a great, great horrible mark. i don't believe it's ever happened before and it's always good to be part of history. but this is a negative part of history. lou: we'll take up the unprecedented developments over the battle of the border wall. congressman matt gaetz joins us, columnist michael goodwin, historian doug wead. tonight the trump administration stands behind the people of venezuela as they take to the streets calling for a return to democracy and end to the socialist regime of nicolas maduro. we bring you the latest on the protesttests in the country. >>> and the latest on the radical dimms o

staying inside the customs union, the trading union from the european union. e has ruled that out. and of course if she were to go for that option, that would involve a major renegotiation with the european union. that is nothing to say that perhaps they may be in favor of a softer brexit that they would not go for it, but it means that time is running out now for a deal to be struck. it is just 10 weeks before the united kingdom leaves the european union. they need to have a deal or they are just simply going to crash out without one. brent: there has been at least one report this evening that the european union is signaling that it is prepared to delay brexit until 2020. we cannot confirm that, there is only one report of that, but that report is out there. is that where we are headed this week, maybe her asking for a delay? mah 29 is around t the corner. charlotte: there has been speculation growing that the u.k.'s exit from the european union will be delayed. let me just give you an idea of how that would work exactly. the united kingdom would have to ask f

the state of the union, he should go. know it will be a mess because they will probably turn their backs on him. let's see them be disrespectful to the president. syria is a complex issue. caller: i am going -- host: i am going to stick to the topic this morning instead of going on to syria. having all of you respond today 27 of the post found state of -- union certainly is postponed state of the union. robert in virginia, independent. , robert. -- hi, robert. caller: i have a problem with president trump. he said during his campaign he would not accept money during his tenure in for the global office. -- oval office. if he is getting paid, they need to stop it like any other federal worker, put his money not into escrow, but the employees of the federal government. host: he has quarterly can tribbett it his check to different agencies. it is something the white house has done publicly. caller: yes, and he is still rich. i know he receives money back from his businesses. host: okay, you are talking about the income from bu

that is the state of the union. president trump wants money for his border wall and he's not backing down. democrats have offered money for border security but not a wall and they're not backing down. the president as you know said he was proud to take the mantel for this. and yet more polling tonight suggests people agree he owns the shutdown. 60% say the president bears a great deal of responsibility for it. that's far more than either republicans or democrats in congress. >> again he said he'd gladly take the blame. later he said the buck stops with everyone, not with him. and now he says it stops with nancy pelosi. the buck has indeed stopped, and the bucks truly have stopped for people who badly need them. before this began the president said that many for told him they're happy to make sacrifices for his wall. he hasn't been saying that lately. however, his campaign advisor and daughter-in-law still are. >> so in terms of the workers coming to work and not getting paid, what would you say to them. >> listen, it

now the state of the union is back on. on, pretty much since the early turn of the century, woodrow wilson onward, there has always been a state of the union every year. you look at the one year there wasn't, and that was ronald reagan had to delay his state of the union because of the challenger tragedy. and it's such an important exercise for any administration to assess their priorities, because, shockingly, sometimes policy doesn't really start to come together until a big public moment and a bunch of separate government entities are forced to work together and hammer out the facts that undergird all of the policies. so i do think this is an important exercise for any administration, as boring as the state of the union can be, it actually serves an important purpose in the functioning of government. and of course there's nothing in the constitution that requires it, it can be by letter, the venue doesn't matter, but the tradition has been the house of representatives, which is controlled by the speaker. margaret carlson

>>> the state of union speech has been canceled. ruth. >> now is not the time for the president to act like everything is normal when americans are suffering. >> this idea of not letting the president speak is really overplaying your hands. >> right now what we're most concerned with is figuring out how to open up the government and get people paid. >> we have people worried about paying the mortgage had the how can you be well rested when you don't know the next time you're going to get paid. >> at first he wanted to come and tell his story to the american people and now he's afraid. >> he should give information on his father-in-law because that's the one that people want to look at. >> these kinds of tactics smack of what the mob does. >> his story needs to be told. the public needs to hear the whole story. >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, welcome to your new day and a new president trump this morning. >> that's -- i think that's fair. >> breaking overnight, the president blinked

. >>> president trump is postponing his state of the union address. he's yielding to demands made by house speaker nancy pelosi. >> the president made the announcement in a tweet late last night. near the bottom. he said, i will do the address when the shutdown is over. i'm not looking for an alternative venue for the state of the union address, because there is no venue that can compete with the history, tradition, and importance of the house chamber. now, the president's tweet is a sign the white house is facing a new reality, with democratic- controlled house. ktvu's jana katsuyama spoke with a university professor who studies evolution of the state of the union address. >> reporter: the fight over the state of the union speech, escalated wednesday, with a letter from president trump to house speaker nancy pelosi. he said he planned to give the address on january 29th, despite her objections, saying, quote, it would be so very sad for our country if the state of the union were not delivered on time, on schedule and very importantly, on location. spe