brands discusses his book, the man who saved the union -- "the man who saved the union: ulysses grant in war and peace" this originally aired life last weekend. it is about 45in minutes. >> welcome to the session, withe h.w. brands. we are happy to see such a full 10 today.it my name is steve harrigan.g 15 minutes after the session, a phil will be signing books in the book signing campus between the tenth and eleventh down the street. please patronized the book signing tent in the bookstore, and pleas by the the book which won't be a problem. this is the book, "the man who saved the union," ulysses grant and war and peace. if you by this book, proceeds will go to support texas libraries and literacy. it is a great book to read and to find a word because. h. w. brands is the dixon allan anderson centennial prof. of history in austin. his focus has been for many years on american history and politics and his biographies and histories include a number of tremendous books. this is the just the most recent. also traitor to his class about franklin roosevelt, biography of andrew jackson cal

the man who -- "the man who saved the union," ulysses grant, the man who saved the union war and peace is a lot of words and especially with a photograph. i didn't want to push things. one last thing. ulysses grant sort of rolls off the tongue. add an s, ulysses s. grant, it really wasn't an oversight. it was by design. >> a more substantive question about the title. it is called "the man who saved the union". i get that, he was the general who turned the tide of the civil war, saving the union but what i didn't know until i read the book, the work of saving the union went on much beyond the civil war for him as president. he saved the union twice, one could argue. is that correct or am i just making this up? >> you are not supposed to say that with such a quizzical tone. you are supposed to say and i was convinced upon reading it that he did save the union twice. since you said it could be argued it is incumbent upon me to argue that as i do in the book. there are many people who might take issue with grand saving the union during the civil war. didn't lincoln do that? he did. i am no

the union does this on their behalf. that is what we're supposed to believe. unions are feeling their oath. if romney would have won, they would have done it as well. the unions are declining so much with people part of them they trying to do what they can. they risk losing in court of public opinion. earlier today, they sat in sixth avenue to proest he had to come to work today. everyone was yelling at him and saying ridiculous. get up and get to work. >> greg: union of one. >> bob: you make a good point. the union membership declined dramatically. i don't know what you are worried about. you a right for a union and collectively bargain. >> greg: we have a right to travel. >> dana: you talk about prime minister benjamin netanyahu would risk going too far and losing support in the international court of public opinion. do you not agree that the union is doing this and to greg's point now everybody can say i can see what business owners are complaining about now that they talk about the union. >> eric: the other way -- >>

i say to myself, so if the union attempts to go to the union down the road.are as bad off in part, you know, the unions protesting on their busiest day goes after the brands on the airlines themselves. kicking the airlines when they are down. >> what is your reaction, this airline thing, let's see, there is absolutely striking protesting in lax, a threat in jfk, portland airport or the portland port. you are going to lose whatever support you have left. president obama can't bail you out. >> i agree with both of you. there is a risk when labor strikes takes action at a time like this. there is a trade off. you might infeweriate the public. but as far as the number of people, it is not positive attention. you are right. there is a phrase, all news is good news. it is not true. the dwrunions are digging a hol. >> i think the percentage of people that would like to djoina union is far higher. if that was the case, they had allies all overwashington. they don't anymore and they are not all that happy with this president. >> i think it is odd that after president

is the union clash with businesses a bigger threat to jobs? from protesting wal-mart on the busiest shoppings day of the year and targeting one frt busiest u.s. airports on one of the busiest travel days of the year. we'll see big labor's travel play, a blow to a chance fo anyone's recovery. hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, and here we go the bulls and bears, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris along with jim la camp and steve murphy, welcome to everybody. jim, growing union clashes with job creators, growing concerns about jobs? >> absolutely. look, every time you make it harder for an employer to hire somebody they're going to hire less people. we're already seeing it in the jobs numbers. look, obamacare has already cost a tremendous amount of jobs and since the president was reelected and it became apparent that obamacare was coming back in, we've seen the layoffs accelerate and now the unions are trying to kick businesses at a time when businesses are hurting and at a time when they're uncertain about labor

with the cooper union speech that helped to. him to the top of the list of republican candidates. >> to make opposition and the federal government to act of legacy was the during an aftermath of the revolution. focusing on industry group of men who signed the constitution. including the southerners his version of history it had been shattered aside. it was the duty of the republicans. as a legal brief was effective but emphasize eight of what he called fax. after a three decades to go side-by-side. with powerful support with notable founding fathers. that slavery was quiet and organize is from george washington to james monroe. of course, that included john adams and jefferson and madison. of slavery the founding fathers of the complicated legacy and we did never wanted to believe. the crisis he did write private letters to a few southerners and then he was added to talk about slavery and right and wrong a. this is not new language four lincoln. he told a former law partner the slavery question cannot be compromised. that was a l

the problem is the unioned has. a reason from 40 percent in the 50s to single digits right now, because they ever inive and contrary to business and i believe they are crooked as the politicians who gave them too many benefits >> shopping for sturgery in the country. more workers telling them to pack up and taking a trip for medical operations. this out of the line? [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant do you have the coverage you need? open enrollment ends friday, december 7th. so now's the time to get on a path that could be right for you... with unitedhealthcare medicare solutions and plans including aarp medicarecomplete, insured through unitedhealthcare. call today to enroll. these medicare advantage plans can combine parts a and b, your hospital and doctor coverage... with part d prescription drug coverage, and extra benefits... all in one complete plan... for a $0 monthly premium. no

the problem is the unioned has. a reason from 40 percent in the 50s to single digit right now, becau they ever inive and contrary to business and i believe they are crooked as the politicians who gave them too many benefits >> shopping for sturgery in the country. more workers telling them to pack up and taking a trip for medical operations. this out of the line? [ female announcer ] e-trade was founded on the simple belief that bringing you better technology helps make you a better investor. with our revolutionary e-trade 360 dashboard you see exactly where your money is and what it's doing live. our e-trade pro platform offers powerful functionality that's still so usable you'll actually use it. and our mobile apps are the ultimate in wherever whenever investing. no matter what kind of investor you are, you'll find the technology to help you become a better one at e-trade. >> they have the baby. it is delivering babies. and it is hip replacementings. and that is for everybody yeah? >> i think it is it a terrific id

the problem is the unioned has. a reason from 40 percent in the 50s to single digits right now, because they ever inive and contrary to business and i believe they are crooked as the politicians who gavehem too many benefits >> shopping for sturgery in the country. re workers telling them to pack up and taking a trip for medical operations. this out of the line? >> they have the baby. it is delivering babies. and it is hip replacementings. and that is for everybody yeah? >> i think it is it a terrific idea. for example the california state employee's union. they went to shop a hip replacement and they got $15000 to $150,000 they put a limit of $30,000 and all of the helps come back in and said yes, we'll do it for that price. that tells you competition in a free market system works bringing down prices and de do dimunition in service. more we medical care in all kinds of ways, better prices we get and better than obama care. >> but john, i am curious what you think about they go out and search around. and it is it it

what is bad if travelers is good for the union. they are bringing publicity to an issue that local news and the media would otherwise not cover and that is basically a labor dispute with a small company employing 400 workers. they are protesting a vote by a company, by the workers, decertifying the union, throwing them out, so to speak. >> it is frustrating because they are trying to get home to their families. on a holiday. where people want to see their family. that is crazy. no notwithstanding you. that is how i feel. >> they have something to say. the constitution protects our right to protest. doesn't it? let them do it. more power to them. >> so, they are protesting the fact they were thrown out as a union representing the workers and now they are complaining saying to the, saying the company is violating minimum wage standards here in the city. are you going to the airport by any chance? no. >> are you late? >> no, i am just trying to get around the traffic. >> you and everyone else. did you know there was a protest today? >>

that's what the union movement wants. >> rick, sometimes the unions maybe they say they have the be interesof the workers at heart, but sometimes it leads to closing a company. look what happened at hostess. look what happened in american airlines where the union protests led to the companies either shutting down or going into bankruptcy. >> let's talk about hostess. this is a misconnection. no sales associates at wal-mart are going out on strike, period, end of story. >> you're talking about cashiers -- >> they're not going on strike. >> yes, they are, rick. there are a dozen protests -- the fact -- >> hang on. there are a dozen protests across the country and strikes breaking out. hang on. there have been strikes breaking out -- >> they're warehouse workers. >> the fact remains that wal-mart has said to fox business and to "forbes" magazine, there have been unionized attempts since 1997 going on across the country and they have been -- we're talking about -- >> we want to bring it out and go to john. >> if you want to make it worse for workers, make it more difficult for businesses to do wh

the story? to me it seems a black eye for all kinds of unions, a variety of flavors and unions, the bakers union, they were the only group who could come to agreemenwith hostess and at the end of the day the company went out of business because of that. >> going out of business and if you look at the auto companies that need bailout, the union once, chrysler and gm, it wasn't the ones in the south that were nonunion so the problem is unionmaking and union bosses are making these non-competitive and it is hurting the workers they purport trepresent. gerr have a great weekend. thank you. still ahead of fiscal cliff mess just got messier. how president obama respondedo john boehner's latest comments and holiday season rushes on. wod you spend your money? where's the best place to invest it? buying retail stocks for losers next. gerri: it was black friday madness all across the country. this was macy's at midnight in new york city. other stores open really liked was r us and best buy, great deals like lc tvs which were 50% of. overall sales on black friday are expected to be 4% to $11.5 billion. mid

on the part of the management of the union. of course he. could be. but he jumped. and has request for extradition of. the u.s. government has denied his request says they were. send warren anderson to face drive. the proposal for the method that so cited black good one anderson i need was one anderson who was informed about. condition of safety in the plant all this was his boast the knowledge. resistance is not of politics but a culture. is couldn't get. on its own. cultures of resistance on our team.

that is a different story than what the unions would have you believe. tom: so it's going on friday. are we going to have people in the parking lot covered front of the doors harassing customers, what is your plan to provide security for the customer? >> our plan plan is we will sera lot of customers that day. we have some hot items, even guarantee three of the top items and that is unlike other retailers you might go and get up to the front of the line and then be sold out of that item. we are guaranteeing through the hottest items and we really believe that if the majority of the customers experiencing, great shopping experience and a great thanksgiving event wal-mart. tom: willet rule before black friday? >> that'll be up to them. we were glad when they said this was the top priority, but black friday will go on and it will be a great event at wal-mart. tom: even so, there are rules about what you can and cannot do around a company. you can't interfere with the employees, can interfere with the customers. and yet they will not stop, so it is a long-ter

when the leakage of am i see gas from this union carbide factory made people sleep forever but. those who are no more today the people they used. those mothers and sisters who were sleeping bad night in their homes. the gas leakage from union carbide made them sleep forever. anderson go to hell union carbide go to hell. for so many years who's been drinking poisonous water even today the water is still poisonous and all of our children are sick. of them and the entire community split up with a problem that is why we will keep fighting until you are granted all demands the fine to continue. inoculated for a gas leak from a union carbide corp factory in bhopal killed up to twenty five thousand people it was one of the world's worst industrial accidents more than thirty thousand people are believed to have died from the effects of toxic chemicals released into the air from this factory the union carbide plant in the central indian city of book. on up on the contaminated water is making our lives how they're going to get even that. oh these are the kinds of stuff that we just live be

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on the part of the management of the union. of course he got a big. jump . and has request for extradition of. the us government has denied that request. warren anderson to face trial. the proposal for the method that society had a good one anderson in the building was warren anderson who was informed about the . condition of safety in the plant all this while his bozo knowledge. of the. sundance technology innovation all the rest of the women's from around russia we've gone to the future covered.

because of all the spin the bad spin that has been put. unions over the years what in your mind is the relationship between the occupy movement and that kind of social transformation that happened in the thirty's between. yeah i tend to bring that up a lot we've been screened the film around the country and during the q. and a sessions i mention occupy all the time i feel that first of all i feel that even though it times what we read about what we read about them what we see seems somewhat disorganized and disjointed and without the sort of leadership structure but i think labor would be missing out without incorporating the enthusiasm and the bodies literally the marching bodies in the street that occupy is all about so i think that there is a relationship there and i sort of feel like that's what occupy really would need is that you know creating themselves as somewhat of an organization they're not a union but representing all those important things you know fighting for community you know spreading the wealth protecting workers' rights all t

i say it is the union. somebody will disagree. coming up. ♪ lissa:y, w some newsbr melissa: we have breaking news moody's isan downgrading the prance government bond rating grumman aaa. is tive ontain a negative outlook that the long-term economic growth outlook ishings negative prefect did by gradual sustained loss of competitiveness and longstanding rigidity of the market for about their talking about brands. the outlook is uncertain with the deteriorating prospects. moody's on france downgrading their bonds. the stock market climbs across the board withng a 200 points even with the fiscalg ovr cliff so what gives? a fox news contributor so movie. with this news breaking as a e t th result of the two-tier rating economic prospect? thejackie in the quote says on the roadbed is plunging ne to on the news, france andade from europe been general follows down a dangerous path. now we see the ramifications of the high a taxes to more well-established countries like france. it is nice to see agreed on the screen but it could hurt early

the postal employees union is extraordinary. federal and postal employees are struggling during these hard times. no other group has been asked to financially contribute in the way that they have. we know that they are making twice as much of a comparable job and the private workforce. >> there is no gravy train left. america it is not in the 50s anymore. companies along the lines of this, they can't handle the higher pay rate. there is no future for private and public jobs growing in the sector. charles: in the private sector it is all about this. if they had a really from the white house and national labor relations board. it seems like a favorable media right now. they are on the attack. i don't know if this will backfire or not. holding up traffic at lax and those kinds of places, it might backfire, but we think? >> you hit the nail on the head that this is a favorable white house. one in five americans in the union household, i get it, they don't want their benefits package flash or whatever. isn't obama the one that is talk

the union has asked the judge overseeing the bankruptcy to appoint a member of the union to a group ofs managing the winding down of the company. as it stands how to, no union members sit on the company's board and in fact, take a look at this. look at that! kind of looks like the new chairman of the gop house committee, doesn't it? the hostess board is entirely white male business executives, no women no minorities. management has been called on to updating the product line and modernizing the plants and trucks. should unions be allowed even required to have a seat at the table? join meg now is larry cohen president of the communication workers of america. he is joining us from washington, d.c. tonight. larry, thanks for joining me inside the war room again. >> my pleasure. >> the hostess board is our point of entry for this conversation. it is made up entirely of business executives. if you look at companies for example in european countries like france and norway, you see many more females and more workers on company boards. larry, you otherwise all over the world. what do they do d

on the part of the management of the union. of course. the indian government has request for extradition of. the us government has denied that request. send warren anderson to face drive. the proposal for the method that so save it black good one anderson it will be i need was one anderson who was informed about deity being a condition of safety in the plant all this was his but it's the knowledge. culture is that so much as i can which of course he's right on it will be a day of fiscal reckoning is almost upon us by the end of this year the president of the united states and congress must come to some kind of tax and. resistance is not the politics but our culture. is couldn't stand. on its own. cultures of resistance on marching. through the. science technology innovation all the least of elements from around russia we've got those huge earth covered. listen. i've. i've. lived. live live. live . please be cool language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on. reporting from the world's hot spots of a theocracy interview's

>>lis: the non-union employees have a right to keep their jobs. . >>neil: who do they sue? police if i were a non-union employee who lost my job --. >>neil: you with have to line up like any creditor? >>guest: right. i will sue both. >> they negotiated poorly. >>lis: that is not what the law says. they have to bargain in good faith. >> who is in bad faith? the unions bargain in bad faith. >>lis: that is what i am say ing. >>neil: lawyers just looking to sue. you are finding jobs for lawyers. this is not the first company when negotiations turn south with the unions that it want out of business, there have been a host of other companies, the non-union workers get mad at the union workers but it is a moot point because the company is toast. >>lis: if the company did not budget an in good faith and if the non-union members --. >>neil: how can you prove that. they had an idea of a deal and the union had another. >>lis: bring in the laws. can they sue? and i said, yes, they can, find a good lawyer. >>guest: i don't think hostess wanted to shut down and

michl reagan on the gop selling that no tax pledge. unions, they are on the attack, not just at walmart. ceos on the key to dealing with unions. ♪ fare thee well ♪ farewell ♪ mr. gloom be on your way ♪ ♪ though you haven't any money yocan still be bright and sunny ♪ ♪ sing polly wolly doodle all the y ♪ ♪ hah ♪ tom: a whole new world in washington with all this talk of compromise. talk republicans could caved on tax hikes. high-ranking leaders expressing flexibility when it come to taxe some newly elected house republicans, guess what, refusing says signing grover norquist note tax pledge. michaelreagan on help breaking that plege. are they going to cave? >> well, i hope they don't. this is not about republicans trying to figure out, if we cave, the electorate will love us. no, they won't. if the cave, the democrats will laugh all the way to the bank. the election coming upon a couple of years. you might remember, my father made this deal with the democrats back in 1980. $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. guess what? taxes and

stuart: the unions. dine in our last hour on who pushed hostess over the edge and into bankruptcy. the company is in court today asking a judge by the way to approve its liquidation plan. time for market check, this is a rally. the dow industrials up 153 points. nicole, shares of the home improvement store lowe's, straight up i think, why is that? nicole: great day for lowe's. they are the number two best performer on the s&p 500. the stock is at the highest point since early 2007. they came out with quarterly sales and profit that beat the street, raised the outlook. they have been cutting costs. couple of things that are home -- better home and market overall. plus hurricane sandy. what's interesting is they had selection of kitchen bathroom products and small tools which helped them along. however, they still have lost some market share to home depot. their sales still lag home depot. stuart: that's interesting. nicole thank you very much indeed. california simply doesn't get it. it can't get its prior

it is called "the man who saved the union." i get that.he like you grant general whounionu turned aside the civil war, bus saving the union.vil the work of saving the union went on much beyond the civil war for him as president. f so he said that one could argue -- and is this correct? >> you're you're not supposed to say that with such a quizzical sound in your voice. you were supposed to say that i was convinced upon reading it but he did say the unit twice.nu i guess it is incumbent upon the argue that. upon as i do in the book. first of all, there are many people who might even take issuw with grant saving the union during the civil war. didn't we can do that? well, yeah, he did. i'm not going tooi say that gra was the only person who saved te the union, union, but he was the commanding general of the army t that put lincoln's policies into effect. and he was the general whoand accepted the surrender of thee army of northern virginia andac robert lee lee that ended the s. war.the so if anybody won the war on the battlefield,

to favor the teacher's unions so good for them. >> colin? >> this is a hit to bruce springsteen who gave new jersey governor a republican a hug in the aftermath of hurricane sandy. as you probably know, more christy has been after his favorite musician. after this happened soe he felt so strongly about it he wept for joy. he was even better than talking to president obama if you can imagine that. so i'm glad he got a little bit of love from the boss here since he may be a little bit short on hugs going forward. >> paul: she like a teenager with justin beiber. >> pathetic. i want to do a rebuttal to collins. bruce springsteen and barack obama they are congratulating each other and people in new jersey, close to two weeks without power. i'm wondering why they are congratulating. >> paul: including your household. >> i don't think it's the government's job to provide power but to make a public show of take the credit i think he ought to be politically accountable. i don't see the great results. i see a lot of private people doing the relief effo

room or service logic would of monetary union would force the political union to arrive and that's what they wanted the reason why it was an irresponsible companies because as we see if in fact the peoples of europe don't want the going to get a political then you have an economic disaster and that is what we have now but they of course one of the defects of the europeans the european movement not all but the european people european movement the people mostly but over the years there's been a fundamental contempt for democracy. they believe they know better than. republican they were the main culprits well there were a number of the architect reluctant although i knew very well he was by. opposite numbers finance french finance minister when i was johnson extract here for a number of years. very. dedicated man. who believed passionately he was. responsible for it the there were also other imperatives i don't want to single out individuals particularly there are other imperatives which drove both different bonds different crew france and drove germany. and every

on the part of the management of the union. the . request for extradition of. the us government has denied that request. then warren anderson to face trial. the proposal for the method that was cited black with one anderson i need was one anderson was informed about it being a condition of safety in the plant all this while there is both the knowledge. we speak your language or not to do. with news programs and documentaries and spanish what matters to you. a little too much of angles to the stories. that. find out more visit i. miss it in. my daddy. a lot of. does a famous reuse benson play was oh my saved and my money ransom business. eh . eh eh. eh eh. eh eh. eh good laboratory was able to build a most sophisticated robot which fortunately dorna found anything tim's mission to teach creation why it should care about humans and. this is why you should care only on the. mission free accreditation free transport charges free. range month free risk free studio.

the unions and the backers said you're right. this applies equally to corporations and unions. >> and there are a lot exempt like super packs. that is the crux of the problem for a lot of people. >> that is not called the exemption in the initiative, but the first amendment. as i indicated before, as can you have super packs giving to independent expenditures, can you also have the unions giving pursuant independent signatures. there is nothing that limits that in this initiative and that is what is being lost in this discussion by the distortions that the people are trying to put out there. >> what we say, if you look at our, it's our discussion of it, we say go read the initiative. if you look at the no on 32, you won't see references at all to the initiative. they trying to distort what is going. >> when you read it, it was confusing. >> right. >> exactly. >> who would bay billions to get this past? >> and that, again, incredible distortion. the special interest, the public unions are spending up to $70 million to get this defe

i think it is the unions fault, but somebody is here to disagree with me. more "money" and no twinkies coming up. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. melissa: okay, we have some news breaking for you, moody's is downgrading france government bond rating. what they're saying is pain and negative outlook, saying the long-term economic growth outlook is negatively affected by a bunch of things including gradual sustained competitiveness and long-standing service market. they're talking about france, but we will see. the fiscal outlook is uncertain as result of the deteriorating economic prospects. that is moody's on france downgrading their government bond. it was a good day on wall street, the stock market climbing across the board, dow closed up more than 200 points. even with the fiscal cliff looming over our head. so what gives? let's ask jonathan

that particular night i'm not particular night on the second and third december some gases from the union carbide leaks and some of the people died to being an autopsy surgeon it was my moral duty to find out what the cause of death was. after analysis it was established that cyanide was present to get along with nearly twenty million components are to which it team were deadly. like in hiroshima and nagasaki it had an adverse effect on their genes so similarly this adverse effect of the gases causing genetic mutation in india. would like that we don't speak about bhopal because it's not a good image of all india in america they don't want to talk about because in spite of the fact that there is a warm and for all the rest against mr one hundred and i mr anderson has retired in a beautiful house in long island north of new york and of course never. end it was a bone of glacier we're looking at we're going to be effective and one of the implications is for a nation which you know then more than thirty thousand people are affected and the people who are drinking the polluted water have know

leaving the european union. following the chancellor's remarks, she took questions from the european parliament party leaders. >> ladies and gentlemen. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: colleagues i declare the conference meeting open to all members of the parliament, and i thank the group that allowed us to use the meeting room has a sore left chamber, and mrs. merkel also i hope. i welcome the chancellor at the federal republic of germany, angela merkel in our midst. [applause] [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: she has been willing to come here and address the meeting, and in a moment i am going to give her the floor but i am going to make a few introductory remarks and then we will hear from the group leaders and those that have been put forward i think as the group. i would urge you to speak to the time agreed. the chancellor has other appointments and has to go to london after this for the further important meetings. chancellor merkel, you have seen that we are not sitting in reporter, we a