going to give you the last word in the program what should the united states do the region in light of its official withdrawal from iraq. united states needs to stop igniting sectarian conflict throughout the region and stop hitting two different axes against one another right now the united states has developed an axis a washington riyadh tell of the ramallah axis against attack prime baghdad. beirut potentially damascus even maybe. because of my in the middle east we have to be we know together and instead of dividing the sectarian divide or break it together ok mind you we had twenty seconds go ahead in tel aviv. i think what we see in iraq was caused by the united states of course it opened up a pandora's box but the hatred between unfortunately has existed for many centuries it existed even before. you saw me on this program i want to thank my guests today in tel aviv london and in washington thanks to our viewers for watching if you are to see you next time remember. if you. want. rio's. touched by. paintings on display for. you. killed in syria's capital in the first suicide bom

position of saudi arabia which is now supporting the united states against iran and also to rein in mistakes we saw the attack against the british embassy in tehran that was a gift to anybody who wants to isolate the iranian government so president obama. you know i think you know one of. the excuse me of this program is about the end of america fishel american occupation of iraq when you say that the iranians are the net winner of america's failure in iraq. as for the run is the net winner ok here we go back to london let me put this on the radio and the radio i had to say that the majority the majority of sunni sunni arabs sunni arabs polled think that iran is trying to get a nuclear weapon and even greater majority of sunni arabs sunni arabs polled think that would be a good thing for the middle east that is a dramatic indication of how and where are you sure. you're going to come when you think you. know i don't think i think this is totally wrong i mean most sunni arabs would like iran to have a do you think i don't think so. i mean. i was under a lot of islamic move

very peculiar situation because they want to run the united states and. they're going to do very well this will. turkey and iran and other countries in the region you see the problem in iraq now as as i said is the biggest blunder because there was a kind of. equilibrium in the region which has been done by the. for about four hundred years the united states really broken the political equilibrium so now iraq has been this integrated into three parts and i think it will be very difficult very difficult to persuade for example the shia part of the iraqi society who have got strong links to iran to relinquish part of the wealth and power in the southern and middle part of iraq so i think. after the american left iraq withdrawal from iraq we could see straight away in two days not in maliki has started a kind of like dictatorship he kicked out his partners from government and i think we are descending down a kind of at least a noose for the ration between the three parts of iraq ok if i go back to you i mean it's very it's very interesting to me is that as as

the united states and britain have got to start. i mean and so the problem is our european position is really peculiar we don't know whether it's for example in public it's been very much you are. policy but in private it's been collaborating with the united states in iraq collaborating and i'm going to stand so i think. they have only to blame themselves for a. mistake in politics and the region i think iran is being heavily involved in iraq has been heavily involved and i think this is counterproductive productive i think iran should really take lessons from what's happened to iraq and i think the iraqi people has really if you go to the streets of baghdad goes through so if you like the. idea of the you know into version of the american intervention i think i mean diversion and internal affairs of countries is wrong. is gated by the united nations the whole community what's happened in iraq was a you know out through by america and britain and the us was that was completely wrong on false pretenses and information hillary how opti

how about the united states? i'm interested in a number comparison with 50. >> the u.s., having a longer history in space and a much larger budget, has probably put up something i think on the order of 500 satellites. >> who are -- are those satellites that china has in space, are they civilian or military or dual use? >> they're very much dual use. china's space program at this point is mostly oriented spacect recently, very recently. >> uh-huh. >> will you describe the spacecraft? accelerated from >> the manned capsule is probably capable to our gemini series. it's the second manned launch. it's longer, wider and heavier than the soyuz and it's in fact quite a bit more capable than the soyuz. >> is it as big as a standard public bus? >> it is about 25 feet long. so i have to admit, i'm not sure how long a bus is. >> what about the interior of the vessel? >> it's quite cramped. and some of the video we've seen so far put out by the chinese suggest that much accelerated from w module is crd indeed. last night they

>> well, i think you have to take religion seriously in the united states and i think that's the huge difference in united states and the netherlands. you've got the one most religious and secular countries in europe in the e netherlands. if you look at some basic and rntion kes do you believe the bible is the word of god or do you believe in heaven or do you believe in hell, do you believe in miracles? i think that matters when it comes to all these issues. >> the expansion of secular rights not only in the netherlands else why in europe that you speak of, and you see that expansion taking place in the united states. again going back to this core issue, what's cash dash is there any additional evidence of that? we have a church state wall between the two. doesn't that function pretty effectively to keep out influences which may diminish yew bumper sticker watty and force of our religious moraliub religious morality. but generally i think to look at a little bit of a paradox or a contribution what people believe and actual behavior. professing in religious values we also look what the

ok robert i'd like to go back to you and the war on terror that the united states has called over the last decade has had a really huge toll in pakistan and i think western audiences particularly the united states are not really aware of that or that how many people have died as this conflict goes on and the another issue is the radicalization of politics and in pakistan i mean it is it has to be one of the most anti-american countries in the world i mean this is the cost of fighting a war a war that is not that is certainly not winnable in afghanistan in the united states is going to leave i mean my goodness what a net loss all the way around for the united states in the region. it's hard to paint a pretty picture coming out of this there have been many unintended consequences of the large scale u.s. presence in afghanistan and as you point out one of those is the increasing islamic radicalization of pakistan and to the extent that the pakistan government is identified or is it is considered by many pakistani militants to be a part of the problem in fact to be allying itself in aidin

do you concur that the bmr units were not in place? >> there was some compliance but not full compliance. what might breed has alluded to with the -- what my brief has alluded to was the california state law. we were prevented from being allowed to use the unlawful detainer statute, not prevented, but there was an interference, and the penalty has alleged that my client wrongfully evicted a tenant, when, in fact, we went to superior court, got a stipulated judgment. the tenant was represented by counsel at the time, and that judgment was stipulated, approved by a judge pro tem, and, yes, in the penalty decision, my client is charged with wrongfully the action. we contend that that is a violation of the judicial powers act. it goes into law that is pre- empted by the state of california, said that is part of the improper and over -- enforcement of which we complain. vice president garcia: it would seem, and i do not want to make an argument that the planning department could make, and probably because i do not understand to begin with, b

which is all throughout the united states and additionally has several oil refineries in the united states mainly in texas and louisiana it would have huge implications if the u.s. put venezuela on the list of state sponsors of terror which is an initiative that many right wing republicans in congress have been pushing for for several years now and what it would do is basically break relations between the two countries right now relations are frozen but commercial relations continue diplomatic relations are frozen but if if commercial relations were to be broken well imagine i mean if today the price of gasoline is over three dollars a gallon it would shoot up at probably over ten dollars a gallon if relations were broken with venezuela because you know it's one of the principal suppliers of of oil and gas to the country and again it would also cause a lot of regional discontent and rest when it will is not perceived by any other country in this region or around the world as any kind of threat it's only washington that's that's really been trying to portray venezuela in that kind of

there is no need for russia or for the united russia at this point in the next duma to. compromise with other factions and opposition parties to pass regular federal laws. that may be required to pass a constitutional or which needs two thirds of the votes and then the united russia will have to cooperate with the so what you're saying that even after losing a significant number of seats the united part russia still is still considers itself and still should be considered by everybody else as the ruling party in the . countries that are true well absolutely status is at least till the next presidential election since president invidious was leading the list of the united russia party in the parliamentary election and now it's get it got more than fifty percent of the seats which makes it not just the strongest political force but the force with a law making capability now let's hear what the meat the middle of who lead lead united russia through this election said last night. the party has i thought fairly well the party represents almost fifty percent of the population

states is going to leave i mean my goodness what a net loss all the way around for the united states in the region. it's hard to paint a pretty picture coming out of this there have been many unintended consequences of the large scale u.s. presence in afghanistan and as you point out one of those is the increasing islamic radicalization of pakistan and to the extent that the pakistan government is identified or. is considered by many pakistani militants to be a part of the problem in fact to be allying itself and aiding the united states that has brought many of these domestic militants within pakistan in open warfare with their own government so that's the main preoccupation of the pakistanis right now and i think that they fear that a continued large scale u.s. presence in afghanistan will continue the political deterioration within pakistan part of the problem here is that as has been pointed out the americans are not going to entirely go away the americans are going to maintain a presence in afghanistan they're not going to allow the taliban to overthrow the regime in kabul what

people flood the center of moscow again but this time it's the supporters of the victorious united russia party mass opposition rallies staged to make claims the results of the parliamentary vote were. greece's second rescue package amid skepticism over the efficiency of the emergency measure and against the backdrop of widening cracks within the e.u. . and occupy protesters take their rallies to a new level as they hold operations and some of america's west coast ports that's is the first to rest take place in new york where corporate demonstrations also gather pace this monday. international news and comment live from moscow with the twenty four hours a day this is. candidates have been throwing their hats into the ring ahead of russia's upcoming presidential runoff one of the world's richest men russian business men make up work out of as formally announced he's running in the election next march. has more on the mend. we help is number three on russia's rich list kind of a jack of all trades not only does he have a fortune of estimated eighteen billion dollars he's also have a does go

the territory of the united states. got on a ship with his wife, went to the canal zone to tour everything, sat in the steam shovel, one of the most famous p presidential photographs ever taken. he trooped all about the canal zone, marched through the mud and rain with an army of journalists following him. and that really was the beginning of the sort of boosterrist notion that we across the 20th century and still today associate with the canal project. theodore roosevelt was a master, a brilliant master at creating favorable public opinion. >> what kind of role did congress have during the construction phase? were they overseeing it? were they watching it pretty carefully? >> yes, congress did play an important role. even though, as i said, the government in the canal zone was quite autonomous and had a great deal of power, congress was watching it. there was a lot of money at stake, and congress would carry out regular investigations into conditions, had power to oversee and pass pay raises for the skilled workers, tha

it does not cover the united states and china, and therefore it cannot work. it is now clear that this is not the path forward for a global solution to climate change. if anything, this is an impediment. we believe a new agreement with legally binding commitments, will allow us to generate jobs and economic growth, represents the path forward. >> speaking to us from canada is david sawyer, the director of climate change and energy at the international institute of sustainable development. this is a non-partisan research organization. earlier, we spoke to the leader of the green party, and she said she was devastated by the decision of the government. what do you think of the announcement, that 24 hours after these talks -- >> this was not a surprise as the government has been signaling for some time that they were going to be pulling out of kyoto. but the timing is a surprise. they basically released this news on the day -- the opening day of the climate conference. and within hours, of the settlement -- the minister stepped off the plane, at 3:00, and within t

not the united states senate. i believe that the constitution does not authorize indefinite detention in the united states. some of my colleagues see it differently. they've claimed the hamdi decision upheld indefinite detention. it didn't. hamdi was captured in afghanistan, not in the united states. and justice o'connor, the author of the opinion, carefully stated in this hamdi decision -- and i quote -- "individuals who fought against the united states in afghanistan as part of the taliban" end of quote. some of my colleagues also cited the padilla case claiming its tkprepbts for indefinite -- precedent for decisions. padilla, a u.s. citizen, placed in military custody, the fourth circuit court of appeals, one of the most conservative in the land, upheld his military detention. but then before the supreme court had the chance to review the fourth circuit, george w. bush's administration transferred him out of military custody, prosecuting him in an article 3 criminal court. to this day the supreme court has never

two boys in the united states navy. m honored that they are willing to wear the uniform of the united states. two little adopted girls, one from china and one from india. every day, i look into their eyes and deal sort reminded of the world they are about to step into -- eyes and i am reminded of what they are about to step into. i will not contort myself into a pretzel. i will not going to sign those silly pledges. if we the only candidate on the debate stage who will not do that. [applause] i will not go to a donald trump debate either, by the way. [applause] but i do not want anyone leaving this great room without understanding why i am running for president of the united states. i am running for president of united states of america because i think it is absolutely unacceptable and we are passing down the greatest nation that ever was to the next generation for the first time in our nation's history in a condition that is less good, less productive, less competitive, more divided, and more saddled with debt than anyt

invasion of iraq in two thousand and three the united states was in a very very significant powerful position in the middle east it had a constellation of states in the middle east call american clearly pro-american states aligned with it the states that were not aligned with the united states were contained constrained relatively weak saddam hussein's iraq was in a box the islamic republic of iran was relatively weak hamas and hezbollah had not been legitimate aleck torelli in their respective arenas the consolation for the power in the middle east for the united states was very much in america's favor back in two thousand and three on the eve of the invasion today clearly that is not the case unfortunately the united states is actually on the run we have actually been kicked out of iraq it's not just that we draw on our troops we have been kicked out of the country which is really a very profound development for the united states i mean if i go to you in tel aviv it's quite interesting here is that we what kind of legitimacy does the iraqi government have because we're on the one ha

well my big ground is larger than life but to be i have started my career as a diplomats in the united nations in geneva i was part of the russian delegation. soviet legation of. the committee on does armaments basically i never left the field of foreign policy studies so i would not say that i'm new to the area. it's a person like me can bring i think during my. work on t.v. i got a pretty accurate. feeling of. what the russian population and the russian citizens. think of russian foreign policy what kind of foreign policy they would like to. and. what image they have of their own country of themselves and how they place russia and themselves on the global scene i think it's very important that. foreign policy matches the. image that the population would like to have of the foreign policy the russian parliament and you as well you begin your work in the wake of much foreign criticism with regards to the parliamentary elections claiming that they weren't fair what kind of a challenge does that criticism present to the parliament and do you first see a response well i think the response

in common cause now the ukrainian diaspora in the united states is joining in remembrance in a rather peculiar fashion is the application for the whole of the credit card. will be able to allow the south asian. and one of our branches the catastrophic nine hundred thirty two nine hundred thirty three famine claimed at least three million lives in ukraine alone with several more million british across what is now central russia and kazakstan some one key of insist it was an act of genocide directed against ukrainians most school says it was caused by criminal agricultural policies of stalin's government but those behind the credit card project claim they're driven by remembrance motives only putting all the story debates aside you know what it's another good mechanism to have knowledge and more remember thanks to the political elite and civil organizations it is well known in ukraine. besides there are only a few living witnesses left and they're already old. however it's not only about the intangible one percent of each purchase made with a whole

the west is already involved the united states has been involved from the beginning when when the whole situation started in the middle east with the arab spring the u.s. began pushing immediately for similar protests and uprisings to happen in the countries precisely where it wants to provoke regime change which are syria and iran and the case of libya and i mean i think we can't ignore what happened in libya because there's a lot of similarities that we're seeing playing out now in the case of libya they were not in large part protesters that were engaged in a conflict with with the government of gadhafi those were armed insurgents that were being art that had been armed in large part from abroad there were similar reports coming out of the case out of libya about al qaida being involved in prising against the government of gadhafi and they were being supported in a covert way by the united states i mean you have to remember that the u.s. has been involved in a lot of dirty operations around the world and particularly in the middle east where it has armed and funded on previous occasi

game you know as the elections near well it's not a victory for the united states the the goal was to impose in baghdad. a pliable quiet regime in a country that had been pacified so the united states could not only dominate its oil but have a main client in this oil rich region that's clearly not the case most importantly though it's been a great national tragedy for the people of iraq not only have maybe more than a million died hundreds of thousands certainly but five million people were made into refugees almost every family has somebody they lost there's tons of widows and orphans in iraq and the country's been shredded along ethno sectarian lines previously unified country is now fighting itself as a consequence of the u.s. strategy was which was to divide and conquer joseph biden the vice president appointed by bush to be the point man for a record he himself was the advocate of the partition of iraq the breaking up of the country. and that appears to be what we are seeing today amid the bombings we're going to talk a little bit more about that in a little bit first i want to p

also the united states. secondly in some of the emerging economies, the impact of the policy that was necessary because several of those countries were close to overheating. tightening and slow the economy's like brazil, india, the church to some extent, and perhaps in the coming months also china, much more than we earlier anticipated. with all these developments it was very difficult to interpret the short term dynamics. you mentioned good news, but i would not be too optimistic. you see, sometimes the rebound from a disappointment earlier, so you had the sharp decline in production in japan and then the yeah the states and the spring after the tsunami and earthquake . then use of a rebound. then in august the rebound stops because of the downgrade of the u.s. now it's coming back again little bit. as you look at the grass going toward those of really given what is happening in europe with the moment. >> to you what to say something? the effects of particular of the european and american uncertainties? >> t

ok this is almost all the votes counted in russia's parliamentary election but the united russia party would still suffering a loss of the support meanwhile people are unhappy with the outcome of prozac to the capital center with police intervening when the march moved beyond your fries venue would bore downtown moscow to a standstill. the year a faces its biggest threat yet is the entire eurozone faces a ratings downgrade an announcement that said global markets reeling passes e.u. leaders prepared. ditches had to save the troubled currency had a meeting in brussels thursday. and already strained u.s. papa stone relations afresh as american senators push for a review of toys and a reduction in aid to its kenyan middle east ally because the natives recent deadly airstrike on the pakistan border to do is to shut down a vital supply route. next a look at what's over the economic horizon russia's representative to the i.m.f. . hello and welcome to spotlight the interview show on arts aren't elderly already today we'll be discussing the results of the parliamentary election and rush. by su

unfortunately it makes some forces of the united states like new york cons more aggressive. unfortunately this economy we can this is dragging out the driving some people in the united states towards very dangerous military adventures like attacking iran for instance because they think of the control of oil completely they would control energy and this with they can control the economy of russia and china many other countries in this world with israel's isolation growing are you concerned that it could take an even more aggressive stance against the palestinians i think they are already aggressive enough. and there are acts of war crimes that took place in gaza beyond this group from their policy in the occupied territories of sort of a system of apartheid that is much worse than the apartheid system that prevailed in south africa at one point of time is shameful. if i was an israeli i would feel very shameful what about internal problems that the israeli government is facing particularly visa vi the social protests is the search for an external enemy whether it be palestine

he represented the united states of america have more time. and my parents, i never want my new would look to him as the leader of our country. it was enormously important for young man. >> and you were so taken the stevenson and what he said that a sin that has some influence over the fact that he ran for congress at the age of 29, very dark horse 1962. most people don't run for congress utterly. at least they did in those days. as he said, is younger than it is nowadays. what moved you to get answers to? >> well, i was the longest of long shots. i had been away from my home district for a decade. i've done for your sick college cometh reenactors in the navy and then worked in washing 10 for two congressmen. one from ohio one from michigan. i've never met a congressman before in my life and then i'd come to chicago, home. and suddenly out of the blue, a woman who was a congresswoman, who had succeeded her husband and they had occupied the congressional district from 1932 until 1960. and she announced she wasn't going to run for reelection. and

hasn't given the green light no one in the region would believe that so for the united states to stop this so that is what they wish to do they will have to intervene forcefully with the israelis but my own feeling is that the israelis really already isolated in that region with the events in egypt and other parts of the arab world will think very hard before before launching an attack on iran's nuclear reactor because that would be a declaration of war and you know we are seeing leaders on both sides kind of cracking down and using harsh rhetoric at almost pushing to go to war or at least to to prevent diplomatic talks from happening between the two countries and i want to ask you to riga who stands to benefit from going to war with iran. well to be perfectly frank my own opinion is that going to war in iraq would be against the interests of the united states in that region i mean the israelis are obsessed with the iranian nuclear reactors because they want to preserve their own nuclear monopoly in that region but that may be an israeli need for us though it's foolish even on their p

but the united states has been begged by its allies in the region.u in singapore, saying, please show your commitment. we're concerned that otherwise the region is going to be china dominated. and that's not just a security issue. frankly, i think the single biggest thing that came out of obama's trip was getting japanese assurances and movement on the tpp, which creates the basis for new trade architecture which is not asean plus three. that provides a lot of cover for the united states to do the things it does best in this part of the world which is to provide economic wealth. >> the united states -- i don't think -- what ian said, the suds wanted by the world for the supply of lots of very important public goods. but nobody liked to acknowledge that, and nobody want the united states to be all assertive and if your face and aggressive. so the best way to generate demand for america's world role is to pull back a little bit and say, you know what, you want us ought of your business, fine, we're out of your business. then no, no, please help us with

documented and undocumented, presence in the united states. their earnings were enhanced by about 2.7%. why? it's complicated and i'll send a link to the commission so you can look at the exciting charts and graphs and do that to your heart's desire. it comes down to a simple idea which is intuitive and you know it. the economy is not a fixed pie. when you expand the labor curve, a simple economist will say the price of labor goes down and we're all hurt. the more people that work here, the more people that are chasing jobs and we're all doomed. wrong. the expansion of the available labor force creates opportunities that did not exist before. you have innovation and entrepreneurialism that increases the actual size of small and medium-sized businesses. they consume and that expands the demand curve. you have a dynamic economy for 90% of u.s. born workers that enhances their wages. the other 9% got whacked up side the head with globalization and immigration and everything you can list and they need help. getting rid of immigrants doesn't really

it depends on stability in the saudi arabia and in the united arab emirates. i'm stands on top of 50% of the oil by iran. no more important story here. terrorism was on the front burner here today. police chiefs around the world gathered in abu dha bi. he said 40 million tourists come here like las vegas. he's worried about terrorist attacks. >> a lone individual, the extremist, you know, that is the one that concerns us the most. i think they've demonstrated in other places in the world, you >> all of these issues depend on the stability in saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. right now i'm standing on 10% of the world's oil, 50 miles from iran. terrorism was also on the front burner here in the united arab emirates today. police chiefs were gathering right here in abu dhabi, at the lapd global symposium. there's 40 million tourists a year that come to las vegas, he's extremely concerned about terrorist attacks, here's what he said. >> the lone individual, the extremist is the one that concerns us the most. i think they've demonstrated in other places in

the international court of justice when president obama came to power they were high hopes that the united states would play a positive role in the israeli palestinian conflict do you see his opposition to the statehood bid as a stab in the back totally we see it as a stab in the back but also we see it as a great feel you big failure of an american president who failed to respect his own words he himself promised the palestine should become a member of the e.u. and by november two thousand and eleven and how now he's leading not only not voting for us but he's leading a war against our membership what the american administration is doing and what the american congress is doing is in total contradiction with everything that they speak about in terms of the principles of respecting human rights and of the nation and the principles of freedom you see the palestinian issue has become in a way. some kind of and raiment or some kind of a method to explore the variables or friends of each comes to the cost of what mr obama did and his administration has done has been that the united states has l

speaker, you have been -- of the united nations. the topic of palestinian efforts for statehood at the u.n. you said "we don't need to fund a corrupt institution to beat up on our allies. in a gingrich administration would the united states leave the u.n.? >> no, but we would dramatically reduce our reliance on it and confront certain realities. people talk about a peace process. 11 missiles were fire inside israel last month. last month. over 200 missiles have been fired into israel this year. do you think if we had 11 missiles fire inside the united states we he -- this president he might say gentlemen gee mayd communicate and you would like us more. most americans would say if you are firing missiles at me that might not be a very good gesture, okay. the united nations camps we have helped fund have been training grounds for terrorism. as congress woman bachmann pointed out the last time we he debated she was over there with textbooks that are clearly teaching terrorism that are indirectly funded by the united states through the

states drop below china what do you see as the solution to the united states is jobs crisis. yes i think that you waiting a long time because all the economists know labor wages are very sticky and to date i don't know any american that's willing to work for three dollars a day let alone. what china is doing so for them to wait for labor wages to equalize is not the. right solution in my mind in fact if it came to that we would probably just have robots and other technology do all those of all the work that currently chinese people do right now so the more realistic way to address this is to retrain unemployed workers for a new knowledge economy to get them to. learn the sciences and learn math and all that and invest more talent in those areas because wrote an article recently that yes we could have solved the unemployment problem in so and have it anyway because we have three million jobs in the united states that we're going unfilled for six months or longer and that's because the c.e.o.'s are saying they couldn't find the talent to hire for these positions and these positi

in a gingrich administration, would the united states lead the u.n.?no, but we would dramatically reduce our reliance on it and we would confront certain realities. people talk about a peace process. 11 missiles were fired into israel last month, last month. over 200 missiles have been fired into israel this year. you think if we had 11 missiles fired into the united states -- this president might say, gee, maybe we could communicate and you would like us more. but i don't think -- you know, i think most americans would say, you know, if you are firing missiles at me, that may not be a very good gesture. okay? the united nations' camps that we have helped funds have been training grounds for terrorism. as congresswoman bachmann pointed out, she was over there with textbooks that are clearly teaching terrorism, indirectly funded by the united states through the u.n. we have no obligation to lie and every obligation too tell the truth about how bad the u.n. bureaucracy is and why it ought to be fixed or we ought to radically cut what we are paying [appla

increase its leverage over pakistan at the same time as their leverage of the united states over time decreases yes there is the matter of aid i think that we over. i think we overestimate the degree of leverage that that gives us as much as the pakistanis would like to see continuation of u.s. aid i don't think that that's going to be a critical factor for them in making decisions about their national security going forward and and i fear a situation where the u.s. and pakistan essentially are not talking to one another they are not they're not cooperating with one another and that pakistan is essentially are going off on their own with it it's interesting i mean if i go back to you say you know the u.s. will leave eventually afghanistan in one form or another and pakistan will still be bordering on afghanistan and this is what the pakistanis are angling on aren't they i mean they're not going anywhere it's their neighborhood and they will determine the regional dynamics because the capital of the united states has is just a minute over time and maybe very quickly. as events unfold w

i think there's a period of uncertainty for the united states. they have seen some progress over the last six months or so in the engagement. i think they're going to put on the brakes a little bit, trying to decide what they're going to try to do. the message over the next 24 to 48 hour, are they going to offer condolences? are they going to anoint so to speak the so-called new leader that the -- that we are -- it hasn't been announced obviously yet. i think the u.s. is going to really tread very carefully. there won't be a wholesale engagement, overnight the u.s. isn't going to embrace this young, untested leader. but i don't think they want to close the door to what was -- what we have been talking about all evening, that this could be an opportunity. could be a more benevolent leader than his father? but he could be a much more unpredictable leader. he's untested. the north koreans want to portray him as in command. could that mean an overture towards the west or some provocative behavior towards the south? they really don't know. i think they