richard don't you think now the united states if it wants a semblance of a anything that we can even agree with on the word normality should the united states the negotiate with the taliban directly to have an exit where the country is still saw it all together go ahead i think i think that's coming. to karzai has been very irritated and paranoic if you will about reports that the been some efforts to advance a better understanding between washington and the taliban now that's got to come ok peter in washington i'm calling this program legacies here what is the legacy of american occupation in an invasion of these countries you know twelve years on now for both end in context of what's going on in the middle east today. it's a very sad legacy it's very very difficult to point to anything even remotely positive that came out of this from any perspective from a humanitarian perspective it's a disaster the number of people on all sides that have been killed in both places certainly from the perspective of draining the american economy this has been a tremendous mess and has crippled us b

terms of acquiescing to both you know saudis and turkey funding and arming the rebels so whether the united states is actively involved in that war may be all of a secondary importance they have the fact is they would the war is still raging and the united states is playing a lot of. you know has a lot of influence in that war well i think after the deal on chemical weapons which sergey lavrov. basically imposed on. john kerry. the odd thing is that we have rhetorical stats of savoring the overthrow of the regime but in practice we need to preserve the command and control apparatus of that regime and in other words the regime mates needs to stay in power for about a year in order to police up the chemical weapons as as been agreed so there are lots of contradictions we have to take a short break now but i would like to come back to this very point afterward that also it's been five years since barack obama was elected to the american presidency promising a change in how america deals with the rest of the world what happened of doc promise that's coming up in a few moments on well the part. plenty

tonight we talk about china and and the united states with cui tiankai, china's ambassador to the united states. >> i hope the united states will have a better understanding of china's history, culture, china's past, china's present, and maybe china's future. and i do hope that the u.s. will not be so much worried about possible challenge or threat from china. we have no intention to assert everybody. the so-called rise of china is rise from our own past. it's not to prevail over anybody else. certainly not the united states. >> rose: we conclude this evening with kate tempest. he is the a brilliant and eloquent poet and former rap artist. >> i came from a school of rap and of rhyming and telling poems where you just knew it. you put it -- you commit it to memory so that you can go anywhere and be doing it with people and so the idea of reading something from a page, it putsing? between me and you. and if i want to tell you a poem i want it to be almost occurring spontaneously. and if you commit it to memory so well that you don't even have to reach for the words it's just -- you can jus

and for the united states in your book you know you mentioned. you know that the lack of that caution and we really have seen in some of the misadventures that your country has been engaged into over the past. several decades and i think one common thread that we can see in your book is that regardless of how valid the policy objective may be it seems that it often lacks a thought true reality based implementation strategy you know the united united states proclaim some certain goal but it never follows through and never of brings it to any sort of completion and you give the example of the first iraqi war which you believe was a tactical success but a foreign policy failure simply because it was sort of abandoned halfway and i think we can see the examples of that in many other american adventurous so if you don't mind me comparing the united states or finding a matter for four b. years foreign policy with comparative person with a the age the who is eager to start many new things but that sort of abandons them halfway because he lacks i don't kn

foreign policy all those countries essential really seeing themselves as a larger version of the united states well i'm not sure i'd agree with your characterization of what's happening in the region i think it's clear that the order that was once sustained by the united states and our relationships with various countries in the region as essential to be broken down and countries are acting. in an essentially an archaic situation in the region in their own interest as they see it but most often i think they would characterize their own actions as defensive rather than offsets even israel would do that despite the constant expansion it gauges in it but that's a that's a very convenient this isn't it they have to use these difference to a strategy or defense just difficult mission for sanding rap and intervening in their affairs of other countries read them in. the i think there's been a sudden consistent pattern here of using the same. sort of just occasions because the united states also all the time justifies its actions by the need to protect its own security it seems to be the paramount con

they can rely upon the united states that worrying about the us is what they perceive as isolationist tendencies in the united states and this i think is a far greater danger going forward than the united states being overcommitted to small countries ok john if i go back to you in washington i mean israel has been brought up and so it's been iran i mean it's real in saudi arabia that are blocking a potential breakthrough in diplomacy between washington and tehran i mean these alliances are stopping a very i mean you know this is a great debate about iran but this is an opportunity in front of us should alliances be that barrier shouldn't be resolving regional issues. look that's that's exactly right the united states has some golden to it suppose it allies in saudi arabia and israel that you know we have this possibility to have an actual detente with iran and it's clearly within our interests because the other alternative is that isolation and tensions continue down the line and we have supposed allies like israel advocating war just as they did in iraq and you know that that's that

the white house i mean and we have to look at what's going on in iraq now what obligation does the united states have to reintroduce itself in a greater military way not with troops not boots on the ground but what obligation does the united states have to save the molecule government well the answer is none and not that anything could actually help the united states state spent nine years applying hellfire missiles and drones and automation and attacks of all sorts of kinds and none of that worked it is the definition of of mental illness to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results introducing weapons into iraq at this time from the united states will likely have as much success this time as it did the last time ok richard if i can go to you in new york i mean this is kind of deja vu all over again do you do the same thing again we try these united states and its western allies try to stabilize a regime that it actually installed in the first place. it was elected. it has behaved incompetently in terms of reaching out as a majority shia government to these sudanes

end of the deadline set by the united states has lost. the visiting officials gave no indication of how much longer the government might tweak. i'm still sort of seeing releasing the business would try to find his name. the talks and talks. gates said he was optimistic that it would soon be reached on the long delayed by lax security agreement. off to the meetup site i'm convinced. its result of our long meeting with karzai we have narrowed those differences. and i believe that we can look forward to designing the city and in the implementation of that sooner rather than later the state's only recently songs. isn't it the wrong done that so often did to become citizens of dancing with the government and non stop which is fighting. i didn't want to sit and see the united states dollar has this to handing over the facility. the goals of the individual to consider that they do this. he is. it says that this is said to be the response of the full moon day of getting fifty seven dollars and sixty us pull its troops. billions of dollars it will

invaded iraq through lowish the iraq you took advantage of the presence of the united states now the war shifted more than against for an occupier but but then secondly that purpose for i agree with you that history but if we look at syria right now again the united states to one degree or another is supporting groups that a take the mantle of al-qaeda and because the united states wants assad to go i mean i just don't get this here ok there's some good al qaeda in there some bad al qaeda. well but what's funny peter. and i think we got it like you are i'm spinning and so this money will go quickly go back to daniel go ahead sir go ahead first of all the united states you know the u.s. is being criticized all over the united states and the president is reluctant to be involved in syria in order to avoid inflating the support for al qaeda because of its invasion and he's being criticized i think the united states is very cautious not to interfere personally in the. conflict in syria and be it there are elements of al qaeda i mentioned two of the groups have been mostly when i s

what's provocative about what the united states has done? >> well, in trying to put pressure on the government. basically inciting violent acts -- >> rose: demonstrations in the streets in kiev are because of the united states government? >> no, not because of the united states government, but when the government tries to take measures in order to prevent people from destroying downtown kiev and the united states says riot police should be withdrawn from downtown kiev, knew could be viewed. like threatening sanctions -- like to place sanctions on government officials or like completely disregarding the acts of those people who are trying to destabilize the situation in ukraine this is a very disconcerting policy. first of all, it's a policy which seems to be regarding very lately the interest of the ukrainian people. >> rose: what is your government's position about gays in russia? >> no discrimination. we do not discriminate anybody. we do not differentiate -- >> rose: but do you have laws that are not enforced? >> we have a law about which

by virtue of being immigrants and having been [inaudible] and the united states has a modern history as a hispanic country. the statistics you mentioned for restoring the united states, but the situation of the country and historically it is what was now the trenches of the united states first occupied and it was a kind of a blip in the story. >> host: that's exactly what your book seems to cover is the myth that we have about the founding of the united states and if this methodology and you mengin the motors of history and your dhaka. i'm curious how did the book, about now with the and hell is this the time to undo the myths that we have and we will go through what some of those are. >> host: i'm sure there's an objective answer to that question for the reasons that are more powerful than the autobiographical i do see myself as a person trying to understand and situate myself but the book came to me when i was giving some lectures at the u.s. air force academy in colorado springs and the broad minded liberal air force officer who was to look after me had lots of chats with m

program the united states went ahead and signed that accord even though it was very apparent that saudi arabia and israel were not happy about that so i think the fact that the united states has conducted under the obama administration diplomacy with iran in fact has done so secretly for the last. for over a year and has now signed an interim nuclear agreement and. intent or hopeful to sign a comprehensive agreement despite the concerns of saudi arabia and israel i think indicates that in fact the united states has pursued its own interests in the middle east and continues to do so i would point to another example where the united states pursued certain interests in the region with regard to egypt the united states you know albeit somewhat reluctantly but did ultimately support the overthrow of hosni mubarak in egypt despite the fact that again israel and saudi arabia were opposed to that so i don't think so i think it's wrong to imagine that somehow u.s. foreign policy in the middle east at least is entirely beholden to israel and saudi arabia certainly those are countries whose intere

disappointment for the united states. but at the end of the day, the united states-saudi relationship is not broken. this is our oldest alliance in the middle east that dates back to 1945 and continues to function in many ways despite the public irritation and the reason it does and the reason we don't have that much leverage is we need each other. saudi arabia is not only important to global energy supplies and may not provide americans with their oil anymore but it is critical to the functioning of the global economy and without saudi oil being distributed, there would be severe energy disruptions. secondly, their soft power in the islamic world remains very important. they are the home of the two holiest mosques in islam. they are very important to us in attempts to fight al qaeda. the last two attempts were thwarted by saudi intelligence. they need us, too. saudi arabia's defense against external aggression is from the united states of america. no one else can provide them with that kind of shield and that applies to t

states fundamentally destabilize the country the united states just completely disassembled the iraqi state as it existed and not only didn't really put anything in place but actually set up a structure which made it sort of bit official for forces to become more the cereal to divide along sectarian and other sorts of lines of what we're seeing now is the real fruits of all of these time bombs land mines that were set by the u.s. occupation all coming to fruition all at the same time we saw two thousand and thirteen one of the most deadliest years over eight thousand people died in iraq and i think this situation of body is very related to that horrific and i think it seems like you know a lot of people that comes to their head when they hear the word flu shot because of course travesty after a travesty during the height of the occupation we heard that as one of the main pillars of the war why are cities like fallujah ramadi so bloody specifically in those cities yes and i think that's something that really resonates the americans actually

i think the united states should always be a clarion voice for freedom. and a voice against the oppression of the innocent. given what is happening in syria, the united states is rightfully participating in the relief efforts there. and i think it is critical that we need to -- that our aid be dispensed in a way that is consistent with the vital national security interest of the united states. and in particular with our allies in the region in maintaining stability in the region. the next few months we are going to mark the third anniversary of the beginnings of the civil war in syria, which tragically grinds on with no foreseeable prospect of resolution in the near future. and the humanitarian crisis continues to get worse by the day. amnesty international estimates that some 2.3 million people have been displaced. -- 52% of them are children. 1/3 of syria's population has been forced out of their homes. jordan's population has increased by 9%, and lebanon's population has increased by 19%. this disaster demands the attention of the united states not only

i personally do not see that from the united states ishink the united states unfortunately acting in ovocative manner toward ukraine. >> how was that? ?hat is provocative >> trying to put pressure on the government. basically inciting violent acts. demonstrations are motivated by the united states government? >> not because of the u.s. government, but when the government has to take measures to prevent thoughts from destroying downtown -- thugs from destroying downtown kiev, and the united states says the right police were destroying downtown kiev, how that is viewed. placing sanctions on government officials, completely of thoseing the acts people trying to destabilize the situation in ukraine. this is a very disconcerting policy. first of all, it is a policy which seems to be regarding very light -- lightly the interests of the ukrainian people. >> what is your government's position about gays in russia? >> no discrimination. we do not discriminate. we do not differentiate. >> you have laws that are not enforced? >> we have a law. about which there has been a lot of talk. banning ga

this is an example of the false hoods of the expediency that expediency that the united states maintains in the middle east there's a line in the sand out there drawn by the british that separates syria from western iraq on one side of the line the united states supports sunni fighters because they're fighting shias. in syria but you step over the line into western iraq and anbar province and suddenly the united states is supporting shias who are fighting sunni's the fact that tehran is a longtime patron of maleki with apologies to the ambassador in two thousand and ten the election results favored another candidate it was the united states that sat aside with no credibility whatsoever while toran stepped in and brokered a deal for moloch to take over the reins of power the expedient processes that the united states continues to try to use in the middle east always always come back to hurt us and while i to support stronger relations with tehran supporting she is versus sunni's on one side of the line and the opposite on the other side of the line certainly will not work out in the long

the united states has great strategic and security common interests with egypt. and that's what the money protects. egypt is not pakistan. egyptian security cooperation with the united states has been terrific over many, many years. and that was true for the most part, whether it was hosni mubarak, mohamed morsi or abdul fatah al-sisi in charge of egypt. i think we are getting our money's worth and then some. >> david, does supporting a military regime bring stability in your perspective. >> i don't think it does. people in the region are in tune with what the u.s. is saying. we talk about supporting democracy, but we are supporting egyptian military. there's a crackdown killing many in egypt as the iranian's crushing of iran. we are saying to islamists we support democracy except for when you win elections. >> i think there's two underlying issues here. it's important to recognise that despite all the money that we give the egyptian government and military. in particular it's not the money, all that much money, it's $1.3 million. the same that we have been giving

st st eighty eight prisoners whom the united states considers a threat to security. also the straining relations between the two countries. woe to the breaking point. kristin because ace refusing to sign a bilateral security deed with all it's about the united states devoted most of its troops out of the top fourteen. when most foreign troops are due to a sids. the site has called the so called pseudo option and in good stead. suggested d can't wait until after the presidential elections in april. end of the deadline set by the united states hotspots the visiting officials gave no indication of how much longer the government might tweak and still sort of seeing releasing the business would try to find his name the talks and talks. gates said he was optimistic that it would soon be reached on the long delayed by lax security agreement. off to the meetup site i am convinced. its result of our long meeting with karzai we have narrowed those differences. and i believe that we can look forward to designing the city and in the implementation of that sooner rather than later

has been criticized all over the united states and the president is reluctant to be involved in syria in order to avoid inflating the support for al qaeda because of its invasion and he's being criticized i think the united states is very cautious not to interfere personally in the. conflict in syria and be it there are elements of al qaeda i mentioned two of the groups drop in mosul and i say this both groups when they're regarded as the united states presence so i think we have to also look at the strategy of al qaeda of elites affiliates regardless whether the western powers are involved in this conflict all right gentlemen we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on al qaeda stay with r.t. . i think that the fact that these weapons can fly semi autonomous leap for seven thousand miles to you know the locations where unfortunately my military and the cia are attacking people in countries with which we are not at war to me is simply horrifying and as many you know already argue it's a violation of international law for its assassination i

has been criticized all over the united states and the president is reluctant to be involved in syria in order to avoid inflating the support for al qaeda because of its invasion and he's being criticized i think the united states is very cautious not to interfere personally in the. conflict in syria and be it there are elements of al qaeda i mentioned two of the groups that have been most when i say this both groups when they're regarded as the united states presence so i think we have to also look at the strategy of al qaeda for it's really it's regardless whether the western powers are involved in this conflict all right gentlemen we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on al qaeda stay with r.t. . millions around the globe struggle with hunger each good. what if someone offers a lifetime food supply no charge. they can the very strong position against g.m.o. and we think that's. the genetic anymore the right products are pretty cool tools there is no. evidence to this any problem with genetic engineering when you make a deal. or is fre

struggling and achievement and tragedy, which really the story was a history of -- everybody in the united states and had never been an easy place to live. the climate, the topography of the land, the way the economy in cases long journeys and such. everybody's story in the united states compounds triumphs and tragedies and the hispanic immigrants also had to endure discrimination and the impoverishment and deportation. it's even more moving and has many other people. >> host: going back to the sort of mythology that you are working through in this book, you mentioned in the second chapter -- where we are going from mississippi to the rockies and we hear the story about munez -- and you mentioned that the spaniards legitimized the conquest through their writing. can you tell about how was that a part of creating this pathology? >> guest: the culture of the spanish and hires people sometimes call it in their early modern period was on a strong element of conscience which connects the catholic religion. and unlike the british, french and dutch and hires in the americas -- and we should find people

focus on full range and the united states. -- the united states. there's not much more to say as far as deterrents. you will get no better guarantee that we are prepared to meet the threat posed by north korea and its evolving nuclear met -- nuclear missile capabilities than what is represented by the wording and deterrent strategy. , the united states capabilities. the fourth elements of our efforts against the nuclear program are what we do in the de-nuclearization diplomacy round. under the six party talks werella, all the diplomacy do with the people's republic of china, with russia, japan come republic of korea -- in accordance with the principles and spirit of september 19, 2005, work to negate, reduce and to tour the north korean nuclear threat. our work with china in particular has demonstrated thatit and the other four parties, three parties subtracting north korea, all of us are opposed to a nuclear north korea. all of us are committed to de- nuclearization on the peninsula. consensusilt a strong in the continue to do so going forward. it

it is very funny because in general people think that everything in the united states is perfect and hat everybody here is life is wonderful. and the reality is that united states has a lot of problems right now and they are affecting everybody. so, i see that people are learning more in the united states and people have to struggle here, too. in general, the united states is a health care system which is the most privatized in the entire world. yet, half of these health care spending is finalized by the government through medicaid and medicare. so, what is happening is that by this time the united states is spending more than 17% of its gdp on health care spending right now compared to 5.2 in the 1960's. that says a lot about this. so the health care costs have soared for many decades. and then even though we is spending more in terms of the of money spent, it has the highest income rates and it is the country in which people have the lowest life expectancy and the amount of americans at the age of 55 is lower than other countries. so, one of the characteristics of the united states

it is time for the united states to offer mr. snowden a plea bargain or some form of clemency that would allow him to return home. here's what the president said about snowden today. >> i will say that our nation's defense depends in part on the fidelity of those entrusted with our nation's secrets. if any individual who objects to government policy can take it into their own hands to publicly disclose classified information, then we will not be able to keep our people safe or conduct foreign policy. >> so julian, he is still saying he doesn't think that snowden went about this the right way. what do you think is appropriate for snowden? >> well, look, obviously the internal mechanisms failed. this president failed. this administration failed and our security agency failed to hold itself to account internally. when there is a failure of internal oversight, other people have to step into the role. and that's what edward snowden has done. that's what the press involved in this matter has done. edward snowden next week will be making

there they just want the united states to live up to the ideals that the united states says it is trying to live up to rather than exporting violence across the world yes and i think you just hit the nail on the head unfortunately in a couple of the countries that you mentioned that have the highest anti u.s. opinion there's a lack of a freedom of press which is one of the things when people look at the united states they very much strive for that dichotomy in those two views speaks exactly. one of the one of the troubling things no one who is can who is doing anything bad likes the police around and i shy away from that term police. action because i don't think the united states is trying to be the world's policeman but that's how the perception is changing altering that perception where we where we manifest our good qualities with them without being too heavy handed there is an art to that there's not a science engaging with every country's going to be a little bit different and we have to be exceptionally careful in the way our government and gauges throughout the globe or w

area but with possible spillover effect into the political arena that should be of concern to the united states. >> i think the main issue and it is a huge issue of concern to the united states is that i think europe is increasingly under fiscal pressures and in those fiscal pressures nato linked military issues invariably get short shrift that if you summarize european defense spending you have a big number. if you look at the capabilities that that translates into because of the national orientation of all of the european countries it is a pretty small set of capabilities and the underpinnings frankly of the nato alliance as an active collaboration are becoming harder and harder to sustain. >> that is exactly right. our concern for the european union and nato as partners in helping to deal with these foreign policy challenges, that is where we see the greatest vulnerability. >> the biggest question about europe is its future role, certainly global security manager provider and even in the immediate region around europe and we have seen less appetite among european public for any kind of activ

not against the united states it's the united states and the saudis had the same goal in syria which was to overthrow the assad government now you see because of a possible shift in that way the united states is approaching the middle east but saudi arabia fears isolation they really cannot carry out in independent foreign policy because of their regimes that limited strength endure ability it fears an islamic revolution or a secular revolution it fears isolation and now it's now it looks as if it's primarily the ally of israel i mean you can't look for a worst outcome for a regime in the arab world mark replied to that because it does look like you tell of the axis now developing and there's been lots of sound and fury that they could collectively could attack iran if the united states and western powers continue their dialogue with iran go ahead. well first of all i want to say i agree with the first part of what brian had to say with regard to the fact that yes the third is migrant workers yes they're paying off people with oil wealth but the idea that saudi arabia is someho

first before engaging in local battles because it felt that the united states were propping up these local states. so the things that are being called al qaeda in iraq and syria are not like that at all. they are not multinational. they have a national focus and they are not interested very much in hitting the united states. they're just radical sunni islam political slawrm. islam so i don't think it is the same. >>> when david renniik made a statement, president obama countered by, just because there's a kobe brighten doesn't mean they're nba. david i want to go to you. a significant part of al qaeda's leadership has been taken out. how does that affect their ability to coordinate or carry on any kind of an attack? >> i question that a significant portion has been taken out and is down for the count. whether we look at al qaeda and its senior leadership, it is a clandestine leadership, cellular in nature. studies that have been done on this show it's very difficult to beat such an organization through a strategy that's just based on attrition of leadership. which is basically

does the united states stay the course? do we remain engaged in a leadership role as we fight for democracy? and as the ongoing negotiations are moving the forward, there is a serious fire immediately. i hope there will be a broader focus. including corruption chrks is one of the main challenges. what role might the united states be asked to play monitoring the cease fire. what additional resources might we bring to the table or be called upon to bring to the table to make sure they're successful. and what additional resources, if i might ask, in both the administrative networks do we need to be deploying in order to be effective in our humanitarian relief efforts. >> again, thank you for that question. i'll turn to my colleague. we've been viewed by both sides as an honest broker. we been accused of supporting each of the other sides. and so i think we probably got it right. and we're looking at how we can support the efforts to ensure that there is peace, and each side honors commitments to a cease fire. we're looking at

they are note -- the number to state power eclipsing russia and the united states has a much bigger space program in terms of military by far they are a dominant player. of much more global and serious player this is the subject united states is watching closely. >>host: professor you say a change of military weaponry? why is that? >> because that is the way things have been that inventions cover along with unpredictable speed in to incorporate these new technologies does not happen often unfortunately it turns out the biggest for her to innovation is diversity a country that loses the of war but suffers from another confrontation to innovate. if successful baby come complacent and history is littered with illustrations that failed to take advantage in suffer as a result spec the french forces for the time the commanders of europe and the british forces developing this technology enabled them to attack from standoff distances that decimate the french that led to a dramatic change in the balance of power to europe. >>host: the drone program is that an abrupt change, a revolutionary change,

disappointment to the united states. ut at the end of the day the united states saudi relationship is not broken. this is our oldest alliance in the middle east that dates back to 1945. they continue to function in many ways despite public irritation. the reason it does and the reef we don't have that much leverage is we need each other. saudi arabia not only is important global energy supply, it may not provide very many americans with oil anymore that it's critical to the functioning of the global economy. and without saudi oil being distributed at a reasonable price, there would be severe financial energy disruptions. secondly, there soft power in the islamic world remains very important. they are the home of the two holiest mosques in islam. third, they're very important to us in the fight against al qaeda. the last two against al qaeda to attack the united states homeland were thwarted by saudi intelligence. they need us, too. the end of the day, saudi arabia defense against external aggression is with the united sta

hispanic resurgence in the united states. the program is about an hour. >> of >> host: the felipe, thank you for being with us. >> guest: thank you for taking an interest in my book. >> host: we can start by talking about the population of hispanics in the united states. in 1980 there were about 15 million hispanics in the united states and by 2012, nearly 53 million, and by 2020 we expect 128 million hispanics in the united states. your book helps to give the foundation and explain how this population arrived in the country and how it potentially -- we will talk about where it's going by the time we reach that 128 million. >> guest: you think of the recent period and which profile has been revolutionized by the resonance of the global phenomenon which is migration and that is a very long one and which hispanics have to be long and in the united states but by virtue of the first one that has a long history in this kind of reverting to that now. the statistics you mentioned are restoring the united states but more and more a si