beginning as when the universe began now? >> i try to avoid the question because we really have pretty good complement in our theories, good enough confidence to trace the history of the universe backs to a time when the temperature was so high that even atomic nuclei could hold together. then we can work out what happen if the universe cooled. what we find is what we see in the universe today. so we know our theories are working. if we go back earlier, much earlier than our theories are no longer applicable. in particular, you get to a time in the temperature was so high that einstein's theory of general relativity breaks down. it just can't make sense. and then, we just don't know. we don't know if there was a beginning. i have no confidence in talking about a beginning of the universe. but i have a lot of confidence and not just me, the astrophysicist in general have a lot of confidence in talking about a peer that embattled book i called the first three minutes. even if it wasn't really the first three minutes. >> professo

the university board of trustees just announced the president of the university is stepping down. there's a press conference going on right now. let's go live to that press conference. >> about that at that point, there's been no change in his status. >> what was the driving reason of removing coach paterno? >> in consideration of all of the facts and the difficulties that we are encountering during this time, it was the trustees' view that it was in the best interest, long-term interest of our university to make that change. >> when did you tell him? >> i can only answer one at a time. >> when did you learn. [ inaudible. >> the process is a process that requires some time. there was information that we sought, although we don't know any more about the actual details than the grand jury report and whatever you all right. we were working through the not entirely consistent process cease of wanting to act swiftly and desize civil but also to be thorough and fair. and that resulted in these actions. >> sir, given the popularity of coach paterno, on this campus, how difficult of a deci

steven weinberg is a professor of science at the university of texas. he is a nobel prize winner in physics, the national medal of science winner, and he is also the author of this book, "lake views: the world and the universe." first of all, dr. weinberg, what is this picture on the front of your book? >> that's a picture of lake austin as seen from our boat dock. i do most of my work at home in an office overlooking the lake. and so i have a certain feeling of connection with lake austin. >> why would a nobel prize-winning physicist of science put a lake on the front of his book? >> well, it is what i look at while i'm working, but also, you know, being a scientist, especially a few theoretical physicist, it's a little unworldly. and the sounds of the lake, especially in summer, the boats going up and down the lake playing music brings me back a little bit to the real world, the world of human affairs, which is i think healthy. >> well -- >> that's what i was trying to do in this book, in many of the essays, to peek out of the ivory tower of debt, some

seeking new leadership at the university. that was the term that was used by one of the board of trustees tonight. joe paterno out after 46 years as head coach at penn state, alison, gene robinson and jason whitlock, thanks for joining us. >>> coming up, more on the incredible fall of joe paterno and the sexual abuse scandal that has rocked penn state university. steven a. smith is coming up. so is b.j. schechter and mike pap antonio on the ongoing legal issues sur rounding all of this. >>> rick perry makes an unbelievable gaffe at tonight's republican debate. will it end his campaign? >>> more on the late breaking news, penn state has fired joe paterno and president graham spanier effective immediately. more reaction and the legal take from mike papantonio, steven a. smith and b.j. schechter right after this. >>> welcome back to the ed show, breaking news out of person state university tonight at this hour, joe paterno has been fired, along with penn state president graham spanier due to a sexual abuse scandal that's surround

be they simply don't understand that putting people into space has nothing to do with exploring the universe or learning the laws of nature. >> steven weinberg, nobel prize winner, uta professor, author of several books, including this one, "lake views: the world and the universe." this picture on the front of the book is his view of lake austin on his boat dock. he joins us here at the university of texas. >> thank you. >> every weekend booktv offers 48 hours of programming, focus on nonfiction authors and books. watch it here on c-span2. >> next, booktv talk to professor lewis gould about his book, "my dearest nellie." this interview is part of booktv's college of series. this month we visit the university of texas at austin. >> professor lewis gould on the cover of a book you edited this past year is a picture, who is in that picture of? >> the picture shows president william howard taft and his wife helen herron taft in a limousine. the task were one of the first presidential amnesty is the automobile. i was chosen to illustrate how close and loving this couple was and why president tapp

a zone the university could not afford to be in. tonight the board of trustees voted unanimously to fire long-time football coach joe paterno. you didn't have to be a college football fan to know this man. his respect was legendary, no coach had won more games, fewer coaches will ever garnish his reputation. and in a few moments, by a unanimous vote tonight, all of that changed. legendary head football coach joe paterno has been fired by penn state university. as a broadcaster, it's almost hard to say. joe paterno will not coach another football game at penn state amid allegations he did not do enough to stop the alearned sexual abuse of boys by a former assistant football coach. here is part of the news conference held by the penn state board of trustees just an hour ago. >> our view was -- a larger view of what was necessary to move the university in the right direction. the specific aspects of these terrible activities that occurred and the terrible damage that was done really remains to be established by whatever law enforcement

the success of the university. that is accepted, and that has been directed in the proper way, channeled in the proper way, its own benefit. however, while there is growth at indication relative to what is needed, i do not see a counterstatement with the many students, how and where they would lift. that is basically at the core of the question here in the room for many. the institutional attitude towards future growth and housing, where would students live, in what buildings? and in what fashion? i think that needs to be addressed somewhere. perhaps part of the eir, i do not know. i believe this institutional master plan falls flat on its face because housing, if you just take the sound bites, is one of the biggest concerns. with the increase in housing, there is a major concern about transportation. the transportation has to go hand in hand with roads and housing, including the mission and rapidly changing the attitudes of our transportation, how the current university operates, relative to what they will be doing

the? we must make a university degree a truly count. there are far too many people studying degrees that can't provide little and we wonder why graduate unemployment is rising. we must reduce the number of university places and increase opportunities at the vocational colleges. if we do this it would truly return to being market excellence. this change would make the tuition fees and the graduate tax year relevant. all nyp should oppose this motion. i'd ask you to vote against the campaign. a graduate tax is not the way forward. that is why i am opposing it. we should be campaigning to take responsibility for their action. they never paid for their degree but they expect us to pay for hours. my generation, our generation. it isn't called an economic mess we are in. i suggest that each puts their money where their mouth is and pays for the degree they've already got. [applause] [cheering] if they want to vote for a graduate tax they can pay it back. [laughter] so, ed miller band, you may win tonight, but your party betrayed generations of

she teaches anthropology here at the university of texas. professor, when were the first large-scale immigration of mexicans into the united states when did those ocher? >> since 1848 when the board was formed there was always an ongoing movement of mexican people, but it's not until 1910 that we have the large scale immigration basically due to the mexican revolution. but even then it had already started in the late 1890's due to a lot of economic agreements the u.s. had with mexico that really impoverished the mexican people and when the econ money begins to migrate. >> what was the reaction -- and you focus on texas. what was the reaction in texas to the large scale immigration? >> in 1910 was very negative because of the large number of people that came in. before it hit a trickle so as long as they stay in the san antonio and the south texas. they welcomed it. but by 1910 with the mexican revolution they started coming in very large numbers and therefore it was very negative. there was the women's suffrage for the suffrage in particular

i traveled here knowing that the university of phoenix is wary of the media. but they had agreed to some interviews. then, at the last minute, they backed out and gave no explanation. instead, i spoke to former phoenix executives. >> it was not by accident that this university developed in the southwest and the west. that's where people go to reinvent themselves. and that's where john reinvented the university. >> smith: why did the university need to be reinvented? what's wrong with the way that universities were running up until the time that john sperling came along with phoenix? >> john saw the constraints of most... most college professors. you know, anybody who's got any new ideas in college are quickly beaten down. the academy hasn't had a real change in how it worked for almost 500 years. >> smith: mark defusco arrived at the university of phoenix in the mid-'90s with a phd in education from usc, but he quickly embraced the phoenix model. >> phoenix, people go to school all year round. we started classes every five weeks. and instead of starting classe

>> first cause of the universe? >> of the laws. of anything. >> stephen hawking and i explicitly said physics can't explain revel laws come from. if you want to call that job -- god we have no judgment of that. universe. physics. [talking over each other] >> thomas aquinas and aristotle, first, the leaders will first mover. >> what we are saying is the universe cannot move the weedy board. >> not quite the same as saying the universe -- physics can -- the creation of the universe. the universe and the laws of physics are two separate things. i don't think thomas aquinas was talking about the laws of physics. but what do we get -- what do we gain by saying that is fine? what do i get -- >> it gets us into humility and reverence. it gets us into -- >> you quote -- physicists have a lot of ideas. .. >> experimentation and observation. it's conceived in consciousness, where is experiment designed in consciousness? where is observation made in consciousness? we have no scientific explanation for consciousness. right there you're ignoring

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spannier is no longer president of the university. in addition, joe paterno is no longer the head football coach effective immediately. >> penn state students spill flood the streets to proceed test the decision chanting "went want joe back." things got ugly. students tipped over a news van. and police used tear gas to disperse the crowd. we have two reports from state college, pennsylvania, this morning. jason carroll and sarah hoyer. let's start with jason first. good morning, jason. >> reporter: good morning to you. unbelievable to see what happened out here last night. the board basically saying that they had come to a point where the university need change. and hoped students would understand. christine, obviously hundreds of students did not understand. they took to the streets last night right out here in front of old main, downtown. taking their anger out on the media and flipping a news van and throwing rocks at one of our live trucks last night. vandalizing another news van. police had to issue dispersal order to try to make

mean time the university is forming a task force to look into the incident and the university is asking the district attorney's office to look into this to see if any criminal charges should apply. >> kristen dahlgren on the campus of uc-davis. kristen, thanks. >>> up next here this evening, a less than rousing welcome for first lady michelle obama. >>> on the presidential campaign tonight, an apparent surge for newt gingrich. if you have been following then you know. now leading in a new "usa today" gallup poll, putting him aed hae of mitt romney. gingrich is the sixth different republican to lead in the polls. over this past weekend, gingrich had a few choice words for the occupy wall street protesters. >> they take over a public park they didn't pay for to go nearby to use bathrooms they didn't pay for to beg for food they don't want to pay for to obstruct those who go to work to pay taxes to sustain bathrooms and the parks so they can explain that they are the paragons of virtue to which we owe everything. >> the most explosive quote from that gathering he said the protesters need t

a day later, he told joe paterno what he saw, but no action was taken by the university. in 2008, moraleigations were reported to the authorities, then on november 5th of this year, he was arrested on 40 criminal accounts. joe paterno was fired on wednesday of this week. ray has more on the scandal at penn state. >> now that joe paterno's last home game has come and gone without him, a good deal of sentiment for him has dissipated as well. for many of those who weighed his body of work against the one incredible failure, saturday's was the day they thought he deserved to coach, but that, too, is part of penn state's past, and an uncertain future awaits. dependent not upon who is next head coach is, but how effect e effectively he can merge the program into the rest of the university instead of the other way around. it's instructive that saturday's post game press conference began with the new university president rather than the new coach because it was an acknowledgment that penn state's failure was its backward relationship to the football program. and the next coaching

he and the university president were let go last night. coming in the wake of a sex abuse scandal that's rocked the campus and shocked the nation. overnight thousands of students sund stunned by the news gathered on the campus. the board of director said the decision to fire paterno was made in the best interest of the schooling. paterno says he doesn't agree with the board's decision but he has to accept this. susan mcginnis with more on this. >> reporter: the board of trustees at penn state promised fast action and they delivered. paterno is out. university president is out. now a federal investigation begins. police in riot gear moved in after thousands of outraged penn state students took to the streets. they packed downtown state college wednesday night to show their support for ousted coaching legend joe paterno. students shook lamp posts and toppled over this news van after the university trustee board made its shocking announcement. >> dr. spanier is no longer president of the university. in addition, joe paterno is no longer the he

this is not the university of chicago. this football team underwrites the whole athletic department and it's the identity of the school. before the football team got good this was a branch campus in the middle of pennsylvania. this university is tied to this football program. >> rose: so joe paterno put penn state on the map. >> he's the mayor, the king. joe paterno is penntate. so this is the football team that defines the school and there's a pater familias with paterno. what that sool has been through in the last ten days is unthinkable. you had me atthe first four points, seemed very reasonable but i tnk consequences... this is a completely different realm than punishing riders. but you realize that? >> i understood was an outliar position but i thought somebody should say it on the table. are you a university or a football team? make up your mind. >> i keep hearing that. this was a football prram with a university appended to it >> is the consensus that paterno had to be fired? is there less protest as they learn more

to come in and do labor in the u.s. >> martha menchaca is a professor of anthropology here at the university of texas. what is the picture on the cover of your book? >> it's a boat of mexican immigrants coming off. what i used is the comparison of two pictures, that there's different types of classes -- individuals of different classes coming in to the united states. one in thener, people just crossing the border, crossing the rio grande on foot and on horses and this one is people that have more money. they come in and ride the train. and in my book, i do examine that the -- how the -- how many individuals that were better off could afford train rides. and i examine the whole infrastructure of the railroad system connecting texas to the u.s. perhaps if there wouldn't have been a train system, less people would have come in 1910. >> martha menchaca, what are you teaching this semester at the university of texas? >> at the graduate level i teach a class on oral traditions and history. which is a methods class of how to do historical research. but also how to do ethnographic research or obtain

new this morning an armed robbery at the university of maryland. police say there are no details on the suspects. >> another university rocked by a child sex abuse scandal. head coach barney fine is on administrative leave after two former basketball boys. >> fwoong. syracuse police spokesperson says this investigation is still in its early stages, and these allegations come two weeks after pen state was rocked by a similar scandal. >> syracuse aassistant basketball coach berny fine has been benched while the university investigates after two former ball boys say they were molested for years. >> one says it began in 1984 and that it continued until he was in his 20's. >> he started to try to touch me. and i don't even remember if i thought that was what was supposed to happen. i know i cringed up and didn't want it to happen. >> davis told espn that it occurred at his home and basketball facilities and on road trips. his step brother also told espn he was molested, too. >> you didn't feel like you were capable of saying anything. he's a god to you.

but what about the university? if penn state won't cancel the game, school officials need to come out and be honest. they need to say it's more important for them to make money than to rectify terrible acts of wrongdoing. the board needs to get back together in another meeting and make the next call. the football seasons should be over at penn state. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, should penn state football cancel the rest of its season and decline any bid to a bowl game? text a for yes. text b for no to 622639. you can go to our blog and make a comment at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. lots of opinions and lots of hard feelings surrounding all of this and a tremendous amount of sadness. joining me on the phone is nfl hall of famer franco harris and former player for joe paterno. he is now the chairman of the pittsburgh promise, an education charity. mr. harris, good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. and i certainly und

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finally, the inp says the university b. hayes in an ethical matter, but they destroyed a theater, with 250 seats and the only major african-american theater company in the state of california. >> this is three minutes. >> i appreciate this. >> and you can submit any thing. is there additional public comment? i would ask that people who are interested in speaking, to line up. >> we just don't have any additional speaker cards. >> i was here to listen and i thought that there were comments -- i will keep this brief. we are concerned about the housing impact. there is no discussion to address the impacts. given the substantial growth of this institution, with a private institution, they are converting them to basically dormitories. this is of great concern. this encircles the whole downtown eastern corridor. anyone who has been to college knows that living in college -- with a permanent residence, although they are converting individual units, there is the impact of the existing residence. it results in a loss of the affordable

>> a first cause of the universe? >> of the laws are of anything. >> in "the grand design" stephen hawkins and i exclusively said that six can explain where the laws come from and if you want to call that god we have no objection to that. universe. >> we also talked about -- >> the laws of physics. >> thomas aquinas and aristotle, first cause, the first mover, that's got. >> what we are saying is the universe -- the board. >> that's not quite the same thing as saying the universe, the maximum creation of the universe. universe and the laws of physics are two separate things. i don't think thomas aquinas was talking about the laws of physics. but we can also ask ourselves what we gain by saying okay, that's got. that's fine but where does that get us? >> that answer gets us into humility and reverence. it gets us into -- >> you quote einstein. physicists have a lot of -- >> einstein says in his book -- >> he was a physicist wright? >> he was a physicist and he said he was humbled and to reference in the rationality of t

predator state is the name of the book an economist and professor of government in public affairs of the university of texas is the author. professor galbraith what do you mean by the predator states? who are the predators? >> the predators are attempting to take advantage of the programs that were created for the benefit of the middle class, the programs that, in fact, made the middle class in america, social security, medicare, the housing finance programs and to essentially divert part of the revenue stream from those programs to private benefit. >> so who would be the predators? >> well, in the case of the -- of the housing finance sector, one could talk about the banks that took advantage and mortgage originators that took advantage of the political desupervision of that sector over the last 15 years to write massive amounts of essentially fraudulent mortgages and peddle them to the world investment community. that was a very predatory act which contributed massively to the financial crisis. to the retirement programs the effort to privatize social security, one can talk about the way the drug

what about the university? where's the hurt there? i mean, people get fired all the time in our society. >> right. >> the university i think has to make a big statement here -- >> and i think that would be a positive way to do it. i wish -- a coach suggested to me today that what joe paterno should have said yesterday is he should have resigned on his own. because if he had and not made the board fire him there wouldn't have been any rioting last night. and said i'm giving $1 million to work toward fighting against this kind of abuse and i'm going to ask every penn state alum to give $1. >> john feinstein, great you have to with us tonight. thanks for your take. remember to answer the question there at the bottom of your screen and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. we want to know what you think. legal ramifications for penn state and its officials keep piling up. we'll talk to a former district attorney, matthew mangino. and later, rick perry's epic brain freeze. will it be adios mofo for the texas governor after last night's d

he's accused of killing the university virginia lacrosse player. rors meant to fill out a printed answer sheet with 40 questions. a security plan for dealing with the two-week long trial will be completed on september 19. >>> maryland police are investigating the suspected police inside the world trade center. authorities have not said what floor he was found on. the 27-story building and the top of the world observatory for tourists. treating patients with acupuncture is no different than treating adults and generally safe. they found very few harmful elias abuelazamfects. what they did find were related to malpractice by the providers. the problems include bleeding, symptoms getting worse after treatment. and it is important to go to someone that is well trained. >> all right, thank you. the study looked at data from several different countries over 60 years. that will be the target of the new maryland law. >> this is mistaken off our future. >> reporter: the state senator teamed up with the delegate here to pass the law that opens up free family

the u.k. from as far as fields of scotland even as as universities throughout the u.k. descend on the universe on london now while they're protesting against is the hike in tuition fees that will be begin next this time next year the next academic year which will see university fees increase by three fold to nine thousand pounds a year they're also campaigning against government white paper which is a proposal on higher education that will for the first time allowed private providers to offer degrees now for the students they see that as the privatization of their vacation they don't like to see big businesses profiting from that so a lot of the classic gods. good to be back being brandished today with the slogans reading our education notes there business and also last year now you mentioned there. that this this protest last year did actually end in a lot of violence and destruction to a number of properties in central london students attacked for example the headquarters of the conservative party and sort of heard a lot in the recent days leading up to this protest a

the limit. this is where they are located. we will treat this as a real university. this is not functioning as anything i have been too. this is the governance. the bottom line is the pocketbook. we don't have something that functions as a real university. you do not have anything before you. there is nothing with the academy of art. they reserve the right to do whatever they please, as a real- estate offering. since the last hearing, there have been a couple of the enormous building. a cannery, which was not on the radar. this has massive traffic problems. this is one issue that you deal with -- you will have this in one month. you have the institution that basically barges through all of us. they have the buses that come through on their own schedule. and they're mostly in the end everyone knows about this. i follow them all the time and they are very empty. california hall, two blocks north. at polk and turk. this was an educational building and then the educational academy. we do not have any stability that represent -- if you let this go forward without the defin

first of all, the university is on the hook here. look, it is a lock case. u can bring a case against this university with -- their involvement has been endless. the security at the university was involved, the -- you had supervisors involved. where they didn't just ignore it, ed, they intentionally went out and tried to make it disappear. so from 1998 to this day, 2011, you had children victimized by a predator. by a sick predator. and joe paterno knew about it. and you know what? he shouldn't be given the possibility of resigning. the man should be fired. you're only as good as your last game, ed, and his last game is disgusting. look, we all want heros in our lives. we all want to say, we want to imagine the heroes and we want to create myths behind the heroes, but we have to be honest when we find out that the myth isn't true. ? t and the truth is, we know in 2011 that he was told by someone who saw it with their own eyes, a 10-year-old being raped in the shower by paterno's best friend and paterno does nothing about it. let me just tell you something. th

is they're competing against universities around the world, and want students to come to their university, and want them to be in its environment. they compare housing with the meal plan and actually help support the overall costs. that is the advantage of why a university would not want to own housing because there's a cost nexus. and there is an advantage of housing close to the university because stevens could be more engaged in activities on the university but there is research surrounding what you want students to live on campus or as close as possible and that is lost there. another interesting thought, if something happened, and in the case of parkmerced, they decided to use less of their land or not use all those buildings or management and no longer move forward with the project, under this ordinance, none of those buildings could be sold to the university to use for housing. i do not know if anyone thought about that. i know that is a problem at the state. my only point is i do not know -- i am not saying i want a blanket cu, but i think there might be cases -- i do not know wha

the professor retired in 2002 but remained affiliated with the university. penn state officials declined to comment, but it could be a legal nightmare for the school. >> if a plaintiff's lawyer can argue that there was a pattern, that sexual abuse or assault complaints were made to the university and they just sort of disappeared, well, that's a classic civil lawsuit. >> reporter: legend fall and a community reels as police say more victims are coming forward with claims of sexual abuse and cries for help, allegedly ignored. for "nightline," i'm jim avila in state college, pennsylvania. >> what a disturbing and sad story. we'll keep up posted on it. thanks to jim avila. >>> just ahead, we're going to shift gears altogether, take you inside the house that shaq built. he lets us in on his secret plans for life after basketball. i heard they found energy here. it's good. we need the jobs. [customer:] we need to protect the environment. [worker:] we could do both. is that possible? [announcer:] at conocophillips, we're helping power america's economy with cleaner

the spotlight tonight. new york's syracuse university. associate head coach bernie fine is on administrative leave as authorities investigate claims of child molestation dating back to the 1980s. two former ball boys claim that fine touched them inappropriately. both are speaking out on espn. >> honestly, i don't even remember if i thought that that was what was supposed to happen, you know? i know i cringed up and didn't want it to happen, and i was very, like, what's going on? it was just -- i just remember being disgusted in a sense, you know. but that's when everything -- you know, when he started trying to touch me. my private. >> i can't -- probably 15, 20 times. when you tell him that -- you know, first he just -- when he first did it, you would move away and you wouldn't say anything, because, you know, you didn't feel like you were capable of saying anything, you know? he's a god to you. you know? >> a 2005 investigation by the university found no evidence of wrongdoing. fine denies the allegations. for the very latest let's brin