they're spread across the entire va. the troubling part about these reports is i watched some of the reports and they implied systematic issue with the va. that is just patently false. the va is not just a good system of care it's a great system of care. but the issue that comes into play is either the veterans don't know about the va or just hear these reports and don't come in to earn the benefits that they're entitled to because of their service. >> yeah. congresswoman, i know you're demanding to brief the whole arizona delegation. what do you want to hear from the va when you go back to washington this week? >> patrick, i quite simply want the truth. these allegations have been continuing for several months. although we haven't learned about them until recently. it appears there may be some physical evidence that there was a pattern and a procedure to lie. and hide the amount of time that veterans are waiting to get appointments. i co-sponsored legislation to require the va to set a standard of 30 days that every vet

communicates and looks to the va for leadership in research. we fund ptsd research around the world in netherlands, london, south africa, and we pay for the ptsd research because we have the money. >> anyone else care to comment? >> i'd like to say the of thing, which is there is no va for the contractors, although many of the contractors are like my son, recent p vet rans who go into war zones for the reasons they went into the war to begin with. the idea was that in the privatization, they pay them well and cut them lose. there's no briefing. there's no debriefing. there is no contact with the wives for the symptoms they might look for, nothing. they are very well paid, and being very well paid when they are working among the soldiers, there is a natural tension that grows up, belter paid than soldiers by far, but they are cut lose. that's all. >> if i could widen it. to some extent, at least there's some attempt in putting a system in place to offer mental health assistance to people who need it, flawed as it is. that's the other part. the th

>> i would be camped outside the va from 6 a.m. until at 6:00 p.m. if you are a illegal immigrant in arizona and you get to sick, you can go to the er, get cleaned up in 24 hours and the taxpayer pick up the bill, but if you are a soldier who sacrificed and served his country, you have to wait for months and die possibly because you can't get an appointment. . you are right about embarrassment. the big scandal around walter reed, do you remember that? the stories were outrageous. the press has a responsibility, it seems to me, to bring this story forward. >> the washington free beacon has been pushing on this issue of the press stalling and they still can't get answers but now maybe that will change. i do want to mention one thing about just the culture of the military and ask you to comment on this. the first veteran that we talked about that died, one of things that his daughter-in-law said is that he would no -- not go anywhere but a veterans hospital because he thought that was the loyal thing to do. i'm wondering, you write about in "not cool" ab

he says i would never go the va by the grace of god i retired.s husband doesn't have that option. they don't that have money to go elsewhere. he's at the mercy of the va hospital in phoenix. >> we now learned a week ago which is why you went over there is that 40 people were on this other list, this hidden list, a couch. >> a doctor retired and claimed there's 40 people that died on that list. >> died waiting for the care that they were promise when they went to serve their country. >> they are trying to get the numbers. federally numbers look better. you call to make an appointment and seen in two weeks. so instead of putting you in the computer they put you on tlits. when they see they can see you in two weeks that's when they put you in the computer. >> somebody needs go to jail for this and these families need to be taken care of. somebody in washington needs to step up now ninth month. this guy needs this operation >> he has six beautiful grandchildren. he might not be around to see them. he's only 65. he's in pain with a broken back since d

he refused an interview, though, saying only quote, that's on the va to answer those questions. mcfarland, news4 i-team. >>> not a bad way to start the week? >> 67 today. some areas even close to 70. i think we'll be close to those numbers tomorrow, though possibly a little cooler. maybe right back up there on wednesday. take a look outside there right now. notice i didn't say but. i've had tod+÷ do that just abo every forecast. not really this forecast. we've got a little butt in there. but not bad at all. right now very nice conditions as we look out towards the cathedral. current temperature out at the airport. still sitting at 55 degrees. a very nice afternoon. and a very nice evening. winds out of the northwest at about 8 miles per hour. we are starting to see some clouds filter on in. but those temperatures are staying up. 46 in winchester. towards culpeper. 45 in gaithersburg and 46 right down towards the river down towards patuxent river. storm team 4 radar is clear. it's going to stay that way through the next 24, maybe 36 hours. and then we'll start to see things get a

they are not doing their job. >> what's your message for the va? >> shape up. rican heroes. they deserve better. and i'm here today with dan's blessing. he said yes do this because maybe i go to the back of the list but maybe somebody else gets the treatment they need that would be life-saving. >> very powerful. and back with us is ainsley earhardt. joe's husband wouldn't go on camera. why? >> because they're scared to death that they're not going to treat him now. they will treat him differently if he goes to va because he has one more month to get this life-saving procedure to fix his broken back. have you ever broken a bone? it's extremely excruciating. >> how do they justify no mri, no immediate treatment -- >> no phone calls. they turned off their emails. she has to drive down there to see somebody. she's a strong personality. she walks in the door and demands answers. >> i would assume they can't afford to go elsewhere. >> they can't. so the other guy in the interview you saw his friend marvin that was crying. marvin retired military. joe's husband doesn't

he worked at the va. e said there is a secret list and 40 people died because they didn't get the treatment they needed. did you ever think that you would be, your family would be one of those 40? >> no, and you know something? i'm going to cry now. because i have family that served. i'm sorry. >> reporter: that's okay. i understand. >> that has proven that there are so many beautiful people dying for lack of care. va is responsible for the tears and lives they cause with secret lists. >> he said i don't want to die as a the tears come out of his eyes and he's like why aren't they helping me. >> don't do this to another person. give everybody a chance to live. nobody is god. only god can tell who is going to die. >> ainsley is here with us tonight. i want to start more broadly. the report comes out, as many as 40 people died, two accept pretty lists. >> the doctor came out and retired and said there is a secret list. the va wanted to get patients in in a two-week period. you call your doctor, people seen w

>> the va has it's own rules that are different than any other hospital system in this country because part of the federal government. so if you feel like you've been wronged by your local hospital, you can walk into court and sue them. and we're all familiar with ambulance chasing lawyers, but with the va, there's a lengthy process that you have to go through, and even after that is exhausted, and some lawyers aring to take these cases and it takes years to get justice. an iraq veteran that i mentioned before in massachusetts who hung himself after he was turned away from the va there, it took five years for his family to get compensation. and another veteran that we featured in our story, scott from tennessee, he shot himself in interstate. and he killed himself after the va said that he did not have post-traumatic stress, and his widow is still fighting for compensation what, seven years later. >> does it appear that this is a problem that can be fixed with money. >> money is an important component because there has to be some cost to the agency for making these mistakes, or they wo

save they would print it there was no record you had been there in the computer. >> the director of the vaacility says the matter will be investigated and it is being referred to an inspector general. >> we are going to do everything we can to address these allegations and concerns. if the inspector general does find anything we will take appropriate and swift action. >> some are calling for heads to role including at the very top the secretary of veteran's affairs eric shantseke. >> his soldiers who served nobly a are not getting the kart they deserve and need. >> a senate investigation will almost surely follow and there are questions whether this is an isolated instance or whether this is a larger systemic problem. back to you guys. >> doug luzader live for us in washington. have a great weekend. thank you for that were ro. >>> an incredible act of forgiveness from the wife of a doctor gunned down in afghanistan. >> we don't hold any ill will towards afghanistan in general or even the gunman who did this. we don't know what her history is. >> her family says it doesn't matter who pulled

he was a big part of that whole group and get the va is becoming orthodox that may become the mastersof ptsd so they basically dictate the research agenda and the public agenda and in my mind is become fixed in their ways about how it is going to be treated and is dominated by the va. international organizations communicate and look to the va in large measure for the leadership. we fund research around the world and the netherland in then london and south africa and australia we pay for it because we have the money. >> i would like to say there is no va contractor although they grow into the war of the same reasons they went into the war to begin with. for the symptoms that they might look for a. they are working among the soldiers and there is a natural tension that grows up. [inaudible] to offer the mental health assistance. the thing that my report brought me to forward this book is just good intentions are one thing and the other side is a haphazard system. three quick examples from the book, one guy, three soldiers all that reached the point. the first guy goes into a va when pts

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the last part of his statement where he says we've given more money tots va, that's true. ink it is the second largest budget in the federal government after the dod. but is money -- is money really the answer to these outrageous claims that we're hearing about that veterans are dying? >> that's a typical answer from the president. i've slapped more money on the problem. that's not the solution. they have over $160 billion budget and they have 300,000 employees. where is the president for the past year? we've had had five related deaths -- unrelated deaths to mismanagement down at dorn medical facility. legionnaires' disease making 700 veterans sick in ohio's medical facilities. los angeles they deleted records in their backlogs for appointments. this is a systemic problem for the va and for the president to come back and say i'm addressing this had by slapping more money on it and this is important, what about a criminal investigation by department of justice. >> especially when we are talking about as many as 40 veterans who have died just in phoenix. it makes you wonder

they said the va. said well, i'm sally, his daughter-in-law, i'm his caretaker, and you can talk to me. she said well, we have him ready for a primary care doctor and that's when i screamed at the lady. i did scream. i said you got to be kidding me. you're way too late. he died thanks to you guys. >> when you heard these allegations break how they have a secret list. they don't put the vets on the real list because they want to show the wait times are lower, that these administrators are reportedly in on it because they want to look better with corporate in washington, what was your reaction? >> me and my husband watched it. i thought for some reason, i don't know why i thought, but i thought that it was only pop because i felt like he was -- they mentioned he was old-looking for his age at the emergency room. so when we saw it air, i cried my eyes out, and it only confirmed what they did to pop, horrible care. they didn't give him any respect as a veteran. they didn't help him, and they neglected him.

the va didn't help me. and i cried and i said please, pop, you have to fight. we can do this. we'll do it together. >> documents indicate high level employees may have known about the list. the phoenix va medical direct tomorrow sharon held man knows about it. >> i have never directed staff to do a secret waiting list. >> yet, helman responded to a chain where an employee complained about a later that bragged about timely patient care. the employee says i think it's unfair to call this success. when the appointment is created, it can be 14 days out but they are waiting six to 20 weeks to create the appointment. the inspector general is investigating and the attorney general. the heat on this matter is rising further, megyn. >> unbelievable, trace, thank you. >>> the next guest is the whistle blower behind the allegations. dr. sam foot is a retired va doctor who recently retired after spending 24 years in the phoenix federal affairs veterans system. i want to tell the viewers your allegations are backed up reportedly but other top officials at the veteran's hospital. you're not

the va will issue a report in two months. eel the veterans should feel comfort. >> you feel i need a screen i will get it now. >> is that always the case. that is the case. we'll be in testimony next week answering questions. >> a spokesman said after the deaths they initiated a nationwide review and changed certain proceeds -- procedures. >> breaking news of the mass shooting at fort hood. we have new information on the accused shooter and the victims. >> tax dollars being used to settle lawsuits. why oakland is paying out millions. >> a million heading to higher ground. now bay area officials are taking note. >> multiple waves for 24 hours or longer. the new system to get bay area residents to safety. . >>> that breaking news comes from texas where several news agencies are reporting four deaths at fort hood where a gunman opened fire be the kamm is among those killed -- gunman is among those kills. in the past hour we have heard from the president and the secretary of defense involving the shooting. eric is here live from t

>> well, chuck, in the va we probably own over 50% of the psychiatric professionals in the country. ey are aligned with va. in most cases as employees. but we don't do a very good job at treating mental health and identifying mental health tendencies. we don't screen real well when people come back from conflict when they are deployed. we're doing better, but we've got a long way to go. we've got to learn from some of the non-profit private entities that have greater success than we do within the va itself. >> is the va -- is this a situation -- and i understand the politics of what happened in the '70s and the decision to split off veterans -- split this off from the pentagon. but in hindsight was that a mistake? >> i'm not sure that it was a mistake but i'm not sure that va in its current configuration is capable of handling world war ii veterans who have a real defined set of needs and handling today's wares that come out. but significantly they are exposed to different things than we've seen for decades. we have to work on training of our medical professionals to make sure that t

it has been a construction site for the past several months as a result limited space for parking. so vand patients have turned to street parking across from the clinic here right in front of democratic congressman mike thompson's field office. however ambrose says one of the congressman's female staffers told her the street parking is reserved >>"the female employee will walk over to our site manager and complain that va employees or disabled veterans are parked in this spot" >> reporter:the woman she is referring to is samantha emerick, a field representative for congressman thompson. in fact when i stopped by the office emerick told me that she is the one informing va employees not to park there >>"she did tell me that i could have it towed if i park there and i told her there isn't a sign that says that. then she says this is for constituents, and i said what do you think i am? because i am. i vote" >> reporter:a voter who has served her country in fact >>"i am a veteran. i've served my country" >>"so in the case of the parking issues on mare island" >> reporter:vallejo civil enginee

sam foot just retired after spending 24 years with the va health system here in arizona. ave a list that showed the va was providing timely appointments within 14 days but that was a sham. >> the only record that you have ever been there requesting care was on that secret list and they wouldn't take you off that secret list until you had an appointment time that was less than 14 days, so it would give the appearance that they were improving greatly the waiting times when, in reality, it had been six, nine, in some cases 21 months. >> reporter: in the case of a 71-year-old u.s. navy veteran named thomas breen, the wait ended much sooner. >> he started bleeding in his urine. it was like, listen, we've got to get you to the drchlt we've got to get you to the doctor. >> reporter: brooklyn-raised father, thomas, so proud of his military service, would go nowhere but the va for treatment. on september 28th with blood in his urine and a history of cancer, teddy and his wife rushed him to the va emergency room where he was examined and sent home to wait. >> all they wrote on his c

hospital because the brooklyn va hospital treated him well. breen found blood in his urine he went to the closest va hospital in phoenix. phoenix died in november. va hospital followed him with him about an appointment a month to lat. >> horrible care. they didn't give him any respect as a veteran. they didn't help him. >> officials in the va hospital kept two sets of books so that long wait times were not reflected in the records and the calls are growing louder for the feds to step up and take better care of the vets. >> this is it a tip of the iceberg. these types of shell games happen in the country and vets have been aware of it. >> the va said the inspector general is on it. and veterans deserve to have full faith in the health care. they are committed to transparency and undergo external reviews every year to insure their safety and quality. the chairman of the senate veterans affairs committee said we should expect hearings on this horrifying story, soon. >> harris? >> peter, thank you very much. and we'll go on the hunt for missing ma

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as someone that ran the va, how? >> you know, it's incomprehensible to me that if these files were muni na nimani, if they didn't know about it, they need to be held accountable for that. the secretary cannot know on a day to day basis everything that's going on in the largest health care system in the world, but he has to entrust his leadership to do that and report to him when either resources are not available or people are not following regulations. that's where the failure comes in and people have to be held accountable or the system will be undermined and the quoality f care will suffer. >> there is not just one doctor coming out and alleging this. he's come out publicly but there are top executives saying so and produced e-mails between this administrator ms. heldmman and others and they say what you're doing is not right and you know we have another system that we keep them off the books to get them in within two weeks. there are family accounts of men dying, dying because they could not get in. now we are tal

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the va hospital. medicaid. problems with medical care in america were because of government intervention and their solution, the democrats solution, is let's have more government intervention. it's like trying to sober up by having another drink. >> always great to see you. thanks so much for sharing your insights with us. >> thank you. >> well, it's a first for the catholic churnl, but it doesn't come without controversy. coming up, a look at the two popes that are going to be elevated to saint hood this weekend and the reasons some believe the current pope is bending the rules just a little bit. . . . . >>> welcome back, everybody. more now on the historic moment for the catholic church prepares to make two popular popes saints. lauren green tells us why these men have such an impact and why their legacy continues. >> he is making history this weekend sainting popes john paul ii and john paul xxiii. two pillars of the modern church. >> we have two new saints who exercised a ministry of holiness that was truly

the world coming to? really? who was that kid? and dramatic claims about a va hospital. a woman reportedly conspired to hide the truth of duz kwens of veterans. a powerful response for her next. >> we don't know what the people on the list died of because we never got a chance to see them or examine them. ryday. olive garden's signature favorites, just $10 including creamy fettuccine alfredo, and our classic lasagna. plus unlimited soup or salad and warm breadsticks. signature favorites, just $10 all week long, at olive garden. salesgets up to 795 highwayal is the passamiles per tank.sel salesperson #2: actually, we're throwing in a $1,000 fuel reward card. we've never done that. that's why there's never been a better time to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. husband: so it's like two deals in one? salesperson #2: exactly. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event, get a great deal on a passat tdi, that gets up to 795 highway miles per tank. and get a $1,000 fuel reward card. it's like two deals in one. hurry in and get a $1,000 fuel reward card and 0.9% a

the iceberg. anyone who follows va knows these types of paper shuffling happen across the country. vets have been aware of it. >> the va says their inspector general is on it and quote veterans deserve to have full faith in their va health care. va facilities are committed to transparency and undergo multiple reviews every year to ensure it's safety and quality. the chairman of the affairs committee says we should expect hearings on this horrifying story soon. >> peter, thank you very much. >>> well, tomorrow promises to be a very special sunday morning at the vatican. and the world will witness the historic canaization of two popes in one ceremony. pope john paul iii who lead the church million his death in 1963. lauren green has a look at the unexpected reform he brought to the church an vatican too. >> he is called the good pope and after this weekend pope john xxiii will be called a saint in the catholic church. normally two miracles are needed for saint hood but prone francis waved the requirement for a second miracle for pope john because of his life of piety and holiness. >>

a secret list at the va hospital that vets waited on forever to get an appointment. lower talks to us live. >> i was screaming how dare you. do you know my father in law is dead? thank you, va. i am families, please come forward. no body be scared. it is all for good souls. >> a former technician is going to jail for falsifying 1300 mammogram reports. she entered negative results indicating there was no cancer because ten of the mammogram were filled. her continue said she filled them because she didn't want extra paperwork. she got six months in jail. >>> up to 40 veterans may have died while waiting for care at the phoenix va. a doctor claimed that secret waiting lists have been created denying care to the veterans. hospital officials say the charge is completely false. >> i have never directed staff to do a secret waiting list. >> we have not found any cases related to delays in access or care. dr. sam foot is the doctor who is the whistler blower in this case and has been a physician with that va for 24 years. good to have you, dr. foot. >> thank you. this starts

it's nearly impossible to fire bad employees at the department of veterans affairs. there is a va management accountability act that would give the secretary the ability to fire bad managers and get at the root of the problem at the va which is an unresponsive bureaucracy that hit wall after wall after wall and they try to cover it up, the va does. it's a national outrage. the more people know about it the more they will be outraged. >> it could be a growing scandal that's horrific. >> there need to be more and more. thanks so much for joining us. martha: house speaker john boehner mocking members of his own party. the tough talk he dished out to fellow republicans when he went home to ohio over immigration reform. eric: former secretary of state hillary clinton speaking out again about the deadly benghazi terror attacks and the impact her remarks could have on a potential race for the white house. >> it's very painful and it was certainly the biggest regret that it had as secretary of state. >> a big day for college athletes. everybody will be watching the decisions that come out

i do not want to call 8 people in the va or dod to file a form. that amount of time that it takes me to do that is time away from helping somebody with boots on the ground. i want one the phone number of somebody who understands 2 a.m., need, io -- what i want one touchpoint to act as the va. i will consolidate the community. how do you do it? it is difficult. it is not what you know, it is who you know. >> i think the clearinghouse idea is the key point. for veterans who return to school, what should a higher education institutions do to help veterans learn, reintegrate, and succeed? >> i will address that. we want to talk about veterans and military families. thathing i want to add is the g.i. bill is a transferable benefit. they can transfer those benefits to their families. have gaps in their resume. they may be professionals, for example. and go for years without working. they need to return to work. when that servicemember is transitioning from service, having that spouse have an education and a career helps the veteran to transition. that is

but i want one touch point to access the va, all the va. i'll consolidate the community. i need somebody to consolidate the national. so how do you do it? it's really difficult. it's definitely not what you know, it's who you know. thank you. >> thank you. i think the clearinghouse idea is really a key point there. the next question, for veterans who return to school, what should higher education institutions do to help veterans learn, reintegrate and succeed? debbie? >> i'll address that. and first thing i want to say is we want to talk about veterans and military families because -- >> right, yes. >> and one thing i want to add about that is right now the g.i. bill is a transferable benefit. service members can transfer those benefits to to their family. and why that's important is because spouses often have gaps, long gaps in their resumÉ. they may, they may be professionals, for example, and go for years not working, and they need to return to work. when that veteran or that service member is transitioning from service, having that spouse have education and and a care

we should mention late yesterday, the phoenix va sent an additional statement acknowledging the phoenixwith veterans accessing care and have taken numerous actions to meet demand while we continue to serve more veterans and enhance our services. we have continuely asked the director of the hospital for an interview but have so far been refused. >> and the man that is believed to control the company that owns the south korean company. he is also known as the millionaire with no face and now his private alter ego is being exposed. that's later. >>> russia is warning kiev that military action is not out of the question and now president obama has his own warning for moscow. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ my mom works at ge. my guests are "nathan, which dish is better?". now i say you can have it all with our new seafood trios! red lobster's new seafood trios is three times delicious! c

>> this is a big country and the va has a huge, huge job. there is no way one organization can handle everything. there are so many aspects to the challenges our veterans have. and as an american, as a mother, it's hard for me to let it all go. i couldn't -- i couldn't just let these young men and women who raised their hands to volunteer so my sons can go on with their lives, i couldn't let it go. >> is that how you got started? is that the motivation for it all? >> that was the motivation. i think as parents and as american parents, my family's inta inta intact, my children are able to go to college, they're able to continue with their lives because many young men and women raised their hand. they volunteered, they offered to go. their families are broken and i've met some of those matter mothers. as a mother, i couldn't say it's okay that -- you know, hey, it's okay, thanks and walk away. >> it's a very interesting concept. you take american heros and take them to israel and introduce them to their israeli counter parts. your husband came

someone running the va, how? >> i just, you know, it's incomprehensible to me if files were manipulated, that people up the chain of command didn't know about it they should have known about it. then need to be held accountable for. that the secretary cannot go on a day-to-day basis everything going on in the largest health care system in the world we have to entrust his leadership to do that and report to him when human resources are not available. and that is where failure comes in and people have to be held accountable. for system will be undermined. >> again, so viewers know this is not just one doctor coming out and alleging this. he's now retired but there are other top executives who are saying it's so. they produce e mails between this administrator and others within the administration, you know people lower down the totem poll from you know this is not right keeping them off the books with this other system and there are accounts of men dieing because they could not get in. so now, we're talking about the

and thomas lynch said he wasn't aware of the va having two waiting list. ohn corman put out this saying these reports are heart breaking and congress should conduct immediately hearings and the president should implement someone responsible for rapid changes. arizona senators are calling for the senate to investigate as well. >> any response from the va in phoenix so far? >> officials are saying they are in the dark about this and waiting for more congressional information and va investigator information as they look into their own records as well. >> so far what we have looked at, we have not found any cases directly related to delays or access in care. >> the medical director of the va in phoenix said she has quote never directed staff to do a secret waiting list >> quite a story. more digging to be sure. thank you very much. >>> here is quite a story. yankees and red sox adding a bazaar chapter. second inning. you see the pitcher's neck there? that is pine tar. the red sox manager does doesn't like what he is seeing. that is pine tar and you are not allo

the va's budget is second to the pentagon. over $160 billion and there are massive problems. responded yesterday when ed henry asked him but he responded with saying he increased the budget that is showing his accountability. but if people are dieing because people are keeping secret books they need to comment and the president needs to step in. >> what is your confidence this is accurate. the person in charge of this got a $9,000 bonus. is anyone pushing back? >> mccain is a combat vet and he asked for accountability. the secretary should be out in front responding specifically and tell us who is going to be held accountable. during the entire obama administration there has been a lot of problems with the va and i don't know if anyone has been fired. instead of they are getting raises. >> we hear all across the administration everybody loves the troops and family and we hear people waiting to get money they are owed and cannot s survive. and they go to the hospital they are supposed to count on -- and these va hospital stories have been around for a long time and you think t

we have heard horror stories about some of the va hospitals around the country. r deaths and secret lists we don't know about? >> yes. we know there are have been a thousand preventable deaths since 9/11 at va facilities. these are just more surfacing. no one has been fired for any of this across the government because it's nearly impossible to do so. a group like ours is trying to push legislation forward that would empower these folks to get fired so you can create accountabili accountability. >> anybody within the system should see this. >> if this was the private sector, that doctor would be held liable and he would go to jail with everybody else. >> it's government gone wild. it's an unaccountable government. >> we have the series how bad government is, how destructive it is in people's lives. in this case, it is morally repugnant in how we treat our veterans. >> talk about a glimpse of obamacare. >> it's lack of choic backlogs. it's exactly what you would expect from government. >> i said that question need to be spending more money on the welfare of veteran

it says the va has, quote: >> r eporter: sharon helmand, the medical director of the phoenix va, saysted staff to have a secret waiting list. jon? jon: wow. let's hope they can get to the bottom of that story. that's pretty terrible. molly henneberg, thank you. jenna: well, a disturbing new revelation in the south korea ferry disaster. what a crew member is telling investigates as the grim search for victims drags on. jon: plus, in colorado it's legal to sell pot but only to adults. where the marijuana is showing up and causing a huge fuss. jenna: and, jon, he may have gotten away with it before. not this time though. you see that little thing on his neck right there? a new york pitcher in hot water. for just that, something that he had on his neck. jon: tattoo? jenna: not a tattoo. you're outta here. we'll explain. ♪ ♪ jenna: this just in, the marshall islas taking on the u.s. and the world, the tiny pacific nation filing an unprecedented lawsuit demanding all nine nuclear powers work towards disarmament. that region was used for dozens of u.s. nuclear tests after world war ii. the m

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every one of my team members put the number one community partner as the va. the other group didn't even put the va on their list. and if you think that the va doesn't bring something to the table, you're mistaken. i just want to point out one other thing. we talk about nonprofits. nonprofits are businesses. we're businesses. and you have to speak when you're talking to a community, this is how you get with 'em to work, you have to speak in terms of business. and that's where, what you're doing at the chamber of commerce, ross, is huge. because it resonates. emotions will only go so far. you know, the emotions and the commitment, emotional commitment to veterans is going to wane here in the next few years. but what we point out to community leaders, what we point out to colleges and universities, what we point out to businesses is the economic impact a veteran has on their community. you know, we look at a hundred veterans going to school in our local community brings $2.8 million in federal funds that are unsolicited into the community. why wouldn't you have a

it has been a construction site for the past several months as a parking. so valoyees and patients have turned to street parking across from front of democratic congressman mike thompson's field office. however ambrose says one of the staffers told her the street parking is reserved >>"the female employee will manager and complain that va employees or disabled veterans are parked in this spot" >> reporter: to is samantha emerick, a pathogens congressman thompson. in fact when i stopped by the office emerick told me that employees not to park there >> spa"she did tell me that i could have it towed if i park there and i told her there isn't a sign that says for constituents, and i said because i am. i vote" >> reporter: spa country in fact >>"i am a veteran. i've served my country" >>"so in the case of the parking issues on mare island" >> reporter: vallejo civil engineer jill mercurio says although lennar property developers puchased and lease land throughout mare islandcity streets were not a part of the deal >>"on walnut avenue the street, while it is still on l

a concealed wait time, record, at the va, somebody has to be held account an for this. >> we're out ofime, but, very quickly, if you would. >> you know, one thing if they scared we have a problem we're not getting to all. the patients we need, di but thy did not do that. lou: congressman thank you we appreciate it ubrad win strep thank you so stkpwhr-fp yo so m. >> you bit, thank you. lou: more than uproar in house of representatives after house speaker john boehner mocked his republican colleagues last week, he seemed to delight in taking his colleagues to task over their reluctance to take up immigration legislation at his order, here is his turn just last week. >> here is the attitude -- oh, don't make me do this. oh, this is too hard. >> sometimes it is the leader who gets taken to the wood shed, here is the newly chastened speaker of the house today. >> no mocking. youal know me. -- you all know me, you tease the ones i love, but some people misunderstood. what i had to say, i'll make sure that members understood, biggest impediment we have in moving the immigration reform is that

we are currently working in partnership with the va and among these efforts are the joint legacy viewer and improved data federation which combine access to an integrated view today of dod and va health records. we also work to establish a medical community of interest network that is designed to improve how we exchange information. this will continue continue to work to expand a level of interoperability and among the dod over the next year. this includes 1.2 million correlator health records between the two departments. they have also achieved greater levels of operability in north chicago. we completed this that will improve operability. one of them is creating an efficient va health care system to share laboratory radiology and they continue to be a pioneer in interoperability and operability between the departments. second, in may of 2013 secretary hagel announced her decision papers you a full and open modernization of the health care system. this was based upon a comprehensive analysis of services and this also is part of the technology and logistics to a consumer's possibility f

for the folks that follow the va, this is something veteran haves been talking about for years. articularly bad. a secret list they knew about. get the fail and wait until it was 14 days out and log into a system to look like they are making progress. all the while, veterans are waiting and dying on the watch of the va because they can't get the basic care. >> your reaction? >> in the private sector, if the hospital does this or a doctor does something like this, they are looking at jail time. they are looking at malpractice lawsuits and pay shmay shut a hl down because of this. the problem that we discussed earlier, is this executive management program in the government is filled with burro cats at the top and just down below it, several steps below it, they really don't give any of these things any particular thought because there is no ramifications for anything they do. >> is it more wide-spread than these 40 deaths? in other words, we heard horror stories about va hospitals around the country. are there more depths, are there other secret lists, how deep does this go and how

a new report says that feds waited -- vets waited months even years and the va created secret waitingmissed him like an animal.