at the white house. >> right. so what was life at the white house like? >> crowded. and lots and lots of entertaining. the evening was absolutely absorbed with it. remember the office was in the house. at the other end of the hall from the family quarters. so it was -- there were about 15 servants as i recall. most federal employees from the agencies and they are paid from the agencies and all these children and the routine of the private house, plus the public activities, it was a very busy place. >> we mentioned at the outset that the first lady was an artist and we're going to learn a little bit more about the kind of art she particularly loved but first let's do a few calls. we'll talk to horr simbings -- horris from philadelphia. before ask you the question, would you mute the volume on your tv? we're getting feedback. >> sure. thank you for taking my call. i've been watching the series right along. i'm enjoying it very, very much. can you tell bus her background? who were her parents, where was she raised? was she et kated? long before she met her husband, can y

at the white house. >> right. so what was life at the white house like? >> crowded. and lots and lots of entertaining. the evening was absolutely absorbed with it. remember the office was in the house. at the other end of the hall from the family quarters. so it was -- there were about 15 servants as i recall. most federal employees from the agencies and they are paid from the agencies and all these children and the routine of the private house, plus the public activities, it was a very busy place. >> we mentioned at the outset that the first lady was an artist and we're going to learn a little bit more about the kind of art she particularly loved but first let's do a few calls. we'll talk to horr simbings -- horris from philadelphia. before ask you the question, would you mute the volume on your tv? we're getting feedback. >> sure. thank you for taking my call. i've been watching the series right along. i'm enjoying it very, very much. can you tell bus her background? who were her parents, where was she raised? was she et kated? long before she met her husband, can y

number two, the 157 visits to the white house, plouffe was sent out there by the white house. he there on those programs representing the white house is that okay? who are they? when did that happen? >> well, actually it's 161. >> bill: oh it's four more. how do you know that? >> because i'm keeping up on the stats. >> bill: so it's more. >> 161. which is -- look, i would have loved to have the moment to do it. five people and 23 minutes. >> bill: you ignore them. you just do what i tell to you do. two things. tell me what group and 161, what happened? >> after they heard tonight you giving me this guidance i'm supposed to ignore them. do you think abc is ever going to ask me back? no. >> all right. you do touch on something. 161. i wish we had had a chance to get into it. >> bill: you got to ram it through. they are never going to give you a chance. >> it's just interesting. it's shocked. mark emember son used to come to the white house when he was at treasury. when he went to the irs we never saw him again. >> bill: once. he was there one time we had him on last week. >> par

she made the white house into a symbol. this, but innow 1814 the british are going to burn the capital city. all of this work that she put in to help the public identify with the house, the white house under her term, is going to pay off. there is going be assertive nationalism around the world. -- the war. monday night, and a clock eastern. -- 9:00 eastern. next, leaders an associated press ceo talks about the government's seizure of telephone records. after that, and discussion of prayer in public schools. >> on wednesday, congressional leaders along with the vice president joe biden honored for two donuts -- frederick douglass. it included john boehner and nancy pelosi. and mitch mcconnell. washington d.c. delegates eleanor holmes norton and ms. nettie washington douglass

at the white house. >> right. so what was life at the white house like? >> crowded. and lots and lots of entertaining. the evening was absolutely absorbed with it. remember the office was in the house. at the other end of the hall from the family quarters. so it was -- there were about 15 servants as i recall. most federal employees from the agencies and they are paid from the agencies and all these children and the routine of the private house, plus the public activities, it was a very busy place. >> we mentioned at the outset that the first lady was an artist and we're going to learn a little bit more about the kind of art she particularly loved but first let's do a few calls. we'll talk to horr simbings -- horris from philadelphia. before ask you the question, would you mute the volume on your tv? we're getting feedback. >> sure. thank you for taking my call. i've been watching the series right along. i'm enjoying it very, very much. can you tell bus her background? who were her parents, where was she raised? was she et kated? long before she met her husband, can y

she married the president in a white house ceremony, the only white house ceremony for a first lady. e bodice, filled in with a neck piece. this goes around it and creates a softening effect. it was a longsleeved dress. and this wonderful long train on the underside, trimmed in lace. even the underside of his clothes you don't see had this beautiful trimmed. and this sweeping train. the collection contains more than clothing. at their wedding, we have public and personal pieces. one of my favorite things in the entire collection, this cake box. each of the guests at the wedding were given a satin covered box, painted with the bride and groom initials, to hold a piece of wedding cake. before the wedding, grover and frances signed a card for every cake box. inside, wrapped in lace. there would have been a piece of cake. this particular cake box was given to the minister who performed the wedding. byron sunderland. the minister at the first presbyterian church in washington d.c. that testing to the public fascination of frances cleveland. this is a piece of sheet music, the cleveland's w

. >>> we need to start tonight with breaking news coming out of the white house. within the last couple of hours, high ranking white house officials have announced it is now the official position of our government, of the u.s. government, that syria's president bashar al assad has used chemical weapons against the opposition forces in his country. president obama has long said that chemical weapons would be a red line. that the syrian regime should not cross. since the government has now concluded that they apparently have crossed that line, the obama administration says they intend, now, to arm the rebels in syria. this news was first reported late this evening by "the new york times." the "times" quoting an internal memo that they said was circulating inside the government but once the "times" published the news was confirmed by the white house, a short time later. during a conference call with reporters late tonight the president's deputy national security adviser ben rhodes said, "our intelligence community assesses that the assad regime has used chemical weapo

2nd, you just saw that he released extremely limited pieces of a set of interviews and calls the white house paid liars. we saw that with candy crowley. he says the full transcripts which he vows to release will prove that washington is the cause without saying irs washington or the white house. he keeps that foggy. june 6th, for politico newspaper reports house leadership had delivered a message to issa, cool it. last sunday in response to issa's selected disclosures, democrat elijah cummings, as you said, josh shall releases other parts of the transcripts that directly contradict issa's assertions. and cummings vows to release the full transcripts if issa won't. that same day issa changes his tune saying he won't release any transcripts. attacks cummings as reckless. yesterday cummings called issa's actions hypocritical giving him a monday deadline, this coming monday to review the transcripts before the release. on the heels of the cummings letter, reu techlt rreuters rep issa is widening his probe in addition to the interviews he has done, his committee identifies 20 more officials for f

the same time, the white house and whether it's the tax reform or the budget standoff, it's a timid white house and a timid presidency. few attempts to put out an agenda since the state of the union. he is managing the second term rather than attempting a bold approach. it's as if they are accepting the fate of having a minimalist approach. congress stinks so we are done trying and him immigration doesn't blow up and maybe that's all that's needed for the history books to not have a failed second term. but it's only six months into the second term. the month of june is not going to solve anything. partly by coincidence and promises to be a reactive month for the white house. the u.s. and china summit and the g 8 summit two weeks from now as well as the president's trip to berlin and africa at the end of the month. june will be dominated by the supreme court decisions. that adds to the complication that the white house faces of a second term agenda that seems lost with a year all right half over. there tough things no the to lose sight of. the white house's message has been all over the pl

and the white house promised more direct military support is on the way, but aides would not disclose the specifics of the arms the u.s. is sending. the white house says hezbollah's increased role in helping assad added to the president's sense of urgency to do more. republican senator john mccain, who has been a vocal critic of mr. obama's syrian policy, raced to the senate floor just before the white house made its announcement. >> the president of the united states better understand that just supplying weapons is not going to change the equation on the ground and the balance of power. >> that was nbc's chuck todd reporting. >>> a packed outdoor deck at a miami sports dar partially collapsed last night sending dozens of people into the shallow waters of biscayne bay. bar customers and rescuers pulled people from the waters. divers searched the waters underneath the deck overnight to make sure no one was trapped. 24 people were hospitalized, 2 in serious condition. about a hundred people were on the deck at the time watching the miami heat playing game four of the nba finals. >>> a s

wjz is live with them at the white house. kai jackson is watching things about to get started at this point. good afternoon, kai. >> reporter: good afternoon, don. how are you? you're looking at a live picture of the south lawn of the white house. we're out here today as the president obama gets ready to congratulate the baltimore ravens on their bowl xlvii victory. it was quite an exciting time. this is a live picture of the south lawn. now, the ceremony takes place out here today on a glorious day in washington dc. very pretty. they beat the 49ers on february 3rd. it's a game that will be remembered for the lights going out as it will for the final score. san francisco got energized after that happen but the ravens hung onto win. it's being noted for the people that aren't here as much as the people that are. the ravens are concerned with the team having the chance to meet the president and being congratulated by him. we know that ray lewis will be here today. also ed reid is here. today the president will be meeting and sha

by leaping and putting it into the white house without any evidence that it's there, they're sort of t over their skis and they're basically biasing the investigation. they're allowing the white house, and they're allowing democrats in congress to say, see, it's all politically motivated. so they're basically defeating the investigation, itself, before it gets under way. >> okay. professor, i would be wrong to suggest that it's just mr. issa engaging in this conduct. here's kentucky's hal rogers addressing the interim irs commissioner on the scandal. take a listen to him. >> you say you will follow the facts wherever they go. well, we want you to push the facts to find out where the orders came from. >> professor, don't follow the facts, push them. isn't that why we have a scandal? because someone pushed something they weren't supposed to? >> they are factless pushers. like the dope pushers on the corner, pedalling mythologies that have no substantive base in reality. it's tragic here, martin. they're wasting the taxpayers money when they could be getting after serious criminals, when

there's an independent agency from the white house that shouldn't be part of the white house should beistant from the white house. >> we are going to do our job on the irs and doing over site. >> how high does the irs scandal go? should the white house really be oblivious? president reagan -- >> he didn't learn about this until sometime early may. the white house council learns sometime late april. do you believe them? >> yes, i do. they are in real troubling trouble if they lied to the american people. this is astonishing. the irs operation against the tea party started three years ago. it took a year to reach the top of the irs, a year to reach the top of the treasury and a year to reach the top of the government. i do not believe that that is true. i think all up and down the line if they are going after the tea party folks people are saying they are really hammering the tea party guys that's what congress has to investigate. i don't believe white house people council or the chief of staff or the president of the united states would deliberately lie because they would have a horrend

>> very limited meetings, geraldo, at the white house and the complex. over and beg for money periodically, and that would be at omb. that's not in the white house itself. what clearly happened here was there were a large number of meetings that would appear on the affordable care act, and it just -- it should have been -- that question should have been handled more crisply and in a more forthcoming manner. >> do you worry that its involvement in the enforcement of obama care, given the fact that that is so highly charged and political, will rub off on the irs and make it a more political agency even absent the current scandal? >> well, absolutely. i've expressed that concern, geraldo. i've testified to that. because what you need to guard is the independence of the service. it has a difficult job in any number of areas, but it's got to be seen and believed to be independent by everybody. by all parties. >> would you call on your successor, former commissioner shulman, to frankly and honestly and fully reveal to the american people even absent a congress

renovated and reconstructed and her grand vision for what the white house could become and i think she also is probably the first who correctly understood that the white house was the historic repository of the american people and of the presidency and she -- i think the white house china collection was one of the things she did, the fact that she used antiques that she kind of resurrected from the attic and the basement, so i think she, you know, she was a predecessor for people like mrs. coolidge and mrs. hoover who tried to do inventories of the white house she kid the first -- she did the first inventory i'm aware of. and her vision of the historic nature of the white house and its collections and her campaigns for the betterment of women were very important but not picked up on in her own time. >> here's one from facebook, what modern day first laity would caroline compare most to? >> dare i say rosalind carter who was a quiet first lady but was very busy trying to do worthy things? i guess, you know, -- >> betty ford and her -- >> less public -- betty ford was awfully public

coming up on r t the fighting in syria appears to have reached a new turning point the white house now claims the syrian government has used chemical weapons against rebels what does this mean going forward find out in just a moment. the people of iran head to the ballot box a new successor to president of a dentist god will be picked between six people with three of them considered serious contenders for the election later in the show. in the nation's capital protesters gather in response to the n.s.a. surveillance we'll take you to that rally that's demanding an end to the u.s. government spying on their own citizens. well it's friday june fourteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm margaret how well you're watching r.t. the white house announced yesterday that the obama administration has concluded the syrian president bashir al assad regime has used chemical weapons in the fight against the rebels remember when last summer president obama said the evidence would change the calculus of u.s. involvement take a listen. we cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are

>> what would be some of the reaps you would be at the white house? >> the easter egg roll with my kids. >> the idea that the irs commissioner is coming to the white house every nine days ought to raise warnings right off the bat, because this is an agency that need does have des tans from the white house. it shouldn't be part of the white house. it should be distant from the irs. >> we're going to do our job on the oversight. i see it as the arrogance of big government. >> how high does the irs scandal go? could the white house really be oblivious? former adviser to president reagan joins us. he says he didn't learn about this until sometime in may. do you believe them? >> yes, i do. i don't think -- i mean, they are in real trouble if they lied to the american people, but this is astonishing. the irs operation against the tea party started three years ago. it took a year to reach the top of the irs. a year to reach the top of the treasury and a year to reach the top of the government. now i do not believe that that is true. i think all up and down th

and the white house promised more direct military support is on the way, but aides would not disclose the specifics of the arms the u.s. is sending. the white house says hezbollah's increased role in helping assad added to the president's sense of urgency to do more. republican senator john mccain, who has been a vocal critic of mr. obama's syrian policy raced to the senate floor just before the white house made its announcement. >> the president of the united states better understand that just supplying weapons is not going to change the equation on the ground and the balance of power. >> that was nbc's chuck todd reporting. >>> a packed outdoor deck at a miami sports bar partially collapsed last night sending dozens of people into the shallow waters of biscayne bay. officials say bar customers and rescuers pulled people from the water and divers searched the waters underneath the deck overnight to make sure no one was trapped. 24 people were hospitalized, two in serious condition. authorities say about a hundred people were on the deck at the time watching the miami heat playing gam

commissioner had with the white house. ant to know when the conversation -- we do know it took place at the white house about how to get ahead of the inspector general's report, why the chief of staff knew, why the white house counsel knew but the president was never informed by his lawyer. the lawyer representing lois lerner is the former law partner of the white house counsel? you don't have to be a detective to figure out. there may not be a this is what i want you to do i.r.s. memo. martha: the tone was set for -- from the top, and i think there is compelling reasons to explore that. >> that's how it works. martha: and that's what you're going to do. very interesting development. jay, thank you so much. we'll see you next time. bill: ten minutes before the hour now and watch this too jon scott is coming up "happening now" a couple of minutes away. jon: we are up in ten minutes. new and surprising revelations out about nsa spying on americans, breaking news on the extent of the surveillance programs as we await alleged e

headquarters in washington nor in the white house but rather in the cincinnati field office. >> when nscripts, there has not been one single syllable alleging in any way that the white house was involved in this targeting but yet and still my republican chairman and other chairman in the house have gone about saying that there was some enemies list and that the administration was not being forthright and that they were involved. there's nothing like that. >> "the wall street journal" described the news as more glitz than bombshell while conceding that by all accounts so far the targeting of conservative units started in his i.r.s. unit in cincinnati. don't tell that to the republicans and conservative pun dints who spent weeks in their favorite studios of a vast coverup. >> the tea party groups terrorist, tea baggers, that entire culture has been cultivated by the president and his people. >> this is an agency with an enemies list. this is an exonian. this is a president who since nixon is being revealed. >> one place we ought to be looking is the obama/biden re-elect. not just the wh

any of this came from the white house. 're saying, you know, these guys went off the handle. they were rogue agents. they even scoffed, they said look, if this was political we would never make a mistake this stupid. this is not coming from us. i want to bring in catherine, who has personal experience with this as she and her husband created two organizations, the king street patriots and true the vote. you have your own personal story here about what happened to you. tell us when you filed for this exemption for tax-exempt status for these two groups that you developed, what came after that? what happened? >> well, we filed in july of 2010. and, prior to that we had never, never had any kind of government intervention in our lives other than just filing our yearly tax return. after filing that nonprofit application, we began to experience visits from the fbi. my husband and my business were audited for two years in a row. we were personally audited for two years in a row. we had unplanned audits from at two years in a row.

after months of internal deliberations, the white house late today announced its first significant effort to try to intervene in the syrian civil war. the decision after the white house confirmed assad has been using chemical weapons and among growing public pressure to do more, from john mccain on the right to bill clinton on the left. pour months president obama has said bashar al assad's use of chemical weapons against his own people would be a red line and would lead to a change of policy. today confirming that the red line has indeed been crossed. a new intelligence assessment shared with congress and key u.s. allies around the world. assad has used chemical weapons, namely, sarin gas, on a small scale, killing as many as 150 syrians. today's assessment, a confirmation of a preliminary intelligence report that the president spoke about last april. >> what we have right now is an intelligence assessment. and as i said, knowing that potentially chemical weapons have been used, inside of syria, doesn't tell us when they were used, how they were used, obtaining confirmation and strong ev

not necessarily the white house. s be very clear with that. >> heather: people polled say they believe the investigation should continue. i guess we're not wrapping it up. thank you both for joining us. tomorrow a can't miss fox news sunday in an exclusive interview, former vice president dick cheney weighs in on the nsa spying controversy, and the other scandals rock the nation's capitol. that is tomorrow on fox news sunday, check local listings for the time and channel in your area. >> gregg: are we really done? >> heather: i think we're done. unless they have something else to say. >> gregg: a possible medical breakthrough against one of the most common and deadliest cancers. doctors unveiling a new drug that they say could help stop the disease in its tracks. >> heather: plus, riot police charging on thousands of protesters with water cannons and overwhelming force, but the demonstrators are vowing to return. the latest in a live report from turkey alec, for this mission i upgraded your smart phone. ♪ right. but t

second term scandal the irs may be partying but no party at the white house. this week and what did the white house need another new scandal, secret surveillance programs exposed. we begin with the irs. >> it's time for the irs to come clean. >> i'm absolutely appalled at the apparent waste of taxpayer dollars on frivolous conferences. >> it's so challenging and my goodness. >> what was the irs thinking? >> it's time to get ready. >> we have a new misstep every day at the irs. >> for the committee anyone to date been held accountable? >> let me answer question this way. >> it's yes or no? >> i would say yes. >> they don't pay me enough to do this. >> someone should reviewing this conference on an ongoing basis and see if theyuhñ are appropriate. ♪ ♪ >> i was concerned by the video that the chairman showed us, i would say it's an insult to the memory of star trek. i could do a better captaint( kirk. >> i swear to god and looked at that video over and over again, i do not see the value. i was up 3:00 this morning watching it trying to get to redeeming value. coul

they submitted them to the state department and the white house. morning, i believe it's the 15th of september, there's a meeting at the white house at 9:45 on that morning. and in that meeting all of the talking points that had to do with terrorism and terrorist attacks are stripped out in a white house meeting. and the cia then gets -- goes back and releases these talking points which were meant for capitol hill. these originally were requested by the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. now, it's true that the cia stripped those pieces out, they did so at the direction of the white house. the cia does not draft talking points that say one thing and on their own hook, go 180 degrees the other way after a white house meeting unless somebody in the white house tells them what to do. and i remind you, sean in those 100 e-mails we saw. there's this extraordinary reference to a secure video conference, it looks like it takes place on friday, in which there are a number of high ranking intelligence and security officials. deputy to the

shulman visited the obama white house at least 157 times. at's more recorded visits than the most trusted members of the president's cabinet. the daily caller, jim, compiled that list of access records to the white house. shulman comes in with way more visits than even people like the secretary of health and human services or the secretary of the treasury. >> who knew about all those easter egg rolls. look, this story continues to grow. the news service, not known as a right wing outfit at all, just david lightman and kevin haul said we still don't know any of the criteria that were used, any of the procedures they used, they haven't answered any questions whatsoever on this and they are kind of riding it out. >> jon: you suggested that folks on the west coast are laughing at us east coasters. the question is, are there too many balls in the air here for journalists to cover them all? stewart stevens in the daily beast noted there is an entire class of journalists so invested in a certain moral and ethical image of the president that its memb

>> what would be some of the reaps you would be at the white house? >> the easter egg roll with my kids. >> the idea that the irs commissioner is coming to the white house every nine days ought to raise warnings right off the bat, because this is an agency that need does have des tans from the white house. it shouldn't be part of the white house. it should be distant from the irs. >> we're going to do our job on the oversight. i see it as the arrogance of big government. >> how high does the irs scandal go? could the white house really be oblivious? former adviser to president reagan joins us. he says he didn't learn about this until sometime in may. do you believe them? >> yes, i do. i don't think -- i mean, they are in real trouble if they lied to the american people, but this is astonishing. the irs operation against the tea party started three years ago. it took a year to reach the top of the irs. a year to reach the top of the treasury and a year to reach the top of the government. now i do not believe that that is true. i think all up and down th

twenty percent of americans even support this sam i mean where is this huge disconnect coming from the white house the military establishment military national complex or the people who are saying we don't want to get in britain another conflict right will do what the white house has tried to stay away from it for two years there's been a mess mains pressure coming from senators like john mccain lindsey graham these people who think that the world is a battlefield where this empire mentality and it seems to have worked on the white house this point the white house is afraid of what might happen if the opposition loses under their watch but it's really is empire mentality of the america. people are starting to reject they want to take a more isolationist approach to especially to issues going on in the middle east and it's a matter whether or not congress is going to get the message from them on believable stand thank you so much for coming on breaking that down very complicated situation exams x. . yesterday the small field of real journalism lost a hero michael hastings tragically he died in a ca

consulted with the white house and pledged to pack the d.c. court with appointees, quote, one way or another. they want to use the nuclear option to pack the d.c. circuit so it can rubber stamp the president's big government agenda. >> if this was a woody allen movie right now, somebody would say the keyword here is packing the court. >> packing the court. >> again, it's a ridiculous comparison. i want to point out, packing the court refers to what was attempted by fdr back in the late '30s. he put six justices or tried to on top of the nine. he wanted 15 so he could get some liberal opinions out of the court. obama is filling 3 of the 11 seats of the judicial branch at the appellate level. which is what he was supposed to do as president. if he wasn't filling them, they would say how come you haven't fimed up the court. let's watch him go at them here. >> some republicans recently have suggested that by nominating these three individuals, i'm somehow engaging in, and i'm quoting here, court packing. i didn't just wake up one day and say, let'

so you have this chorus of republicans out there for weeks saying the white house is behind this, the white house has committed crimes, the white house new, darrell issa said this for weeks it reinforces biases people are inclined to believe. but you're right. the white house is slow to realize that this can happen. they are slow footed and can't intervene. >> a.b., the minute they heard about the ig report and should have seen it was trouble, should have had the president jump on it and say whatever screwups are going on in cincinnati, i'm going to fix them right now. heads are going to roll. there's only two reasons why they didn't do that. they were lawyered up and afraid to say anything or did worry somebody in the campaign had some contact with those people in the irs so they'd better be careful what they say. the only reason for screwing up was they screwed up. they didn't act. >> it might have been out of abundance of caution. >> what were they afraid of? >> it was a political error. they underestimated the potency of this story. while they were answering questions on benghazi

why has nobody from the white house been put under h and asked any questions about it? ell, know trry department knew about it over a year ago. the treasury is obviously directly cnected to the white house. we are going to get th we have to go about this in the most painstaking and authenticwe can. we'going to do that. we're going to take it where it leads. by the time we get done with this, we're going to get to the truth. we don't know it now. it's not easy to find out the things we do know we'll keep going until we do. >> sean: i'm following this like everybody else the bush years, the head of the irs went to the white house one time versus 157 trips since president obama was president. can youcile that for me >> it doesn't make sense for me either. we don't know what those visits were. i think we had an inadequate explanation that the former commissioner attended. there are a lot more questions there. what was the substance of the meetingsnd bet if we back over time, that is unusual number. >> sean in light that we have learned, we're at 16,000 employees from the irs

the white house is making a big mistake. s if its strategy was stone wall and have the argument that it was a bunch of rogues. in the end they're going to have to change their story again. every time you change your story, you loss the trust of people hearing you. the ohm question is how high did it go? i think the way to do it is give immunity to people like louis learner and well learn as you go up the chain. >> the media theme was over reach by relationship cans. some of that came directly from an interview that darrell ice did with cnn. >> he's still making up things about what happens and calling this local rogue. there's no indication, the reason that louis learner tried to take the 5th is not because there's a rogue in cincinnati, it's because this was a problem coordinated in all likelihood right hout of washington headquarters. >> and about overreach, you have a tweet from david pluck who you heard from earlier, strong words from mr. grand theft auto and suspected arsonist insurance swindleer. they were chargesed wit

this man, former irs commissioner douglas schulman visited the white house, ready? 157 times. incredible. >> incredible. the irs commissioner visiting the white house 157 times. are you ready, america? is there now a smoking gun? there is not. now a smoking gun. turns out that if former irs commissioner was cleared to visit the white house 157 times in case he wanted to attend various meetings about health reform and stuff. they put his name on the list his name was at the gate. ultimately the only available data on this that actually show him going to the white house complex, the only available data on this show him going to the whole white house complex, which includes the white house and the executive office buildings there, 11 times. the publicly available arrival and departure information only shows he attended 11 meetings over four years. is it obscene that the commissioner of the irs who was, by the way, appointed by george w. bush apparently had an average of two or three meetings a year inside the whole white house complex over the course of four years? is that a smoki

now the white house says -- not the president -- but the assad regime, the white house says, did crosshe line. intelligence indicates chemical weapons have killed more than 100 syrians and the united nation estimates 93,000 men, women and children have died in that civil war. some g.o.p. critics say it's too little, too late. marco rubio said today, and i quote, the longer we continue to outsource this problem to other actors, the more the country will fragment. spreading instability, violence and chaos to its neighbors, and analysts point out there's trouble on all sides of syria. to east robb. -- iran to he west, lebanon, home of hezbollah, an ally and embroiled in its own standoff with israel. and then turkey, where violent protests turned deadly this week. firstç let's get to ed henry at the white house. ed, i mean, a relative unknown came out and told us that the line had been crossed, still noç heard from the president, and this is -- the puck doesn't have any idea what is happening. >> been rose, the deputy national security adviser, very prominent around the white house around

what is your response to darrell issa shamelessly accusing the white house while knowing the truth? i mean how do you respond to this? >> there is absolutely no evidence to support his irrational statements on the white house having any knowledge about the irs using words to focus in on tea party organizations. what has come forward, and i want to applaud the ranking member of the committee for making available to all americans now the seminole interview that has taken place by the bipartisan membership of the committee staff where the screening manager at the cincinnati office actually speaks to the genesis of the actual targeting that went on. it did not emanate anywhere, except from cincinnati. negative, congresswoman, you are hitting a point that really is outrageous to me. joy, when you look -- let's look at another exchange from the transcript that congressman cummings, who the congresswoman refers to as the ranking member. it says the irs official was asked, quote, was it your impression that an agent flagged the case, the tea party case for you on february 25th, 2010 because

breaking news now on the tense situation unfolding at this moment in turkey the white house has just d that it is following the events there, quote: with concern. that's according to the reporting of the reuters news agency. the white house is calling on turkey's leaders to uphold the citizen's rights of expression and assembly. this as cops fired new rounds of tear gas on protesters in what is one of the most important allies in the entire region. the breaking developments coming up. plus, the man behind one of the largest leaks in our nation's history. the pentagon papers. weighing in on this new nsa spying scandal. and wait until you hear what he has to say about this latest leak. and we all know driving a car can be stressful. but just as stressful asar this? that's coming up as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top caused all this? art te i of the news. for an agent, call the number that appears on your screen. we chip away. at redefining capability. f whatever days may come. like beach days... rainy days... even vacation days. made with pride. crafted with passion. this

>> he's not distracting the white house. >> what? embolden the critics of the white house, like s.e. cupp. discussion of eric holder being out makes her so flushed her face is red. it makes the discussion grow bigger and bigger and bigger. and the answer is ari would say no, you cannot. there is a wall between the white house and justice. >> appointed for life? i wasn't aware. >> president clinton had a lot of problems with janet reno, tried to push her out several times. couldn't do it. it's not that easy. this is highly politicized. americans are not sitting around saying we want eric holder out. he cannot accomplish this without more evidence. >> let me say, jonathan capehart, welcome to "the cycle." >> thank you very much. >> what do you think? >> name an attorney general who has not been a lightning rod for his or her president? >> michael mukasy. >> okay, that's one. >> you asked me to name one. >> okay, that's one. john ashcroft was a huge lightning rod for president bush. >> aren't we making the point that holder is uniquely,