but again, going back to the total asset allocation and the general plan that thecio, discussed their expectations what they're trying to do, focusing on the key issues of a very good total return, a very good risk adjusted rate of return, as well as focusing on trying to minimize significant drawdowns, which means very large losses that do effect the contribution rate as well as the total funded status, funded ratio of the pension fund. i think we had very good audio on it, we did not videotape that meeting, so you missed it and want to catch up with the documents, is there are basically five working documents, plans, in the next four or five to cpete the package. includes the whole risk management plan that will tie everything back together. it took staff many, many weeks to prepare that to again show us basic plans like we've been hearing for real estate and private equity for all the other asset classes, how they see their ability to plan the work flow to achieve the asset allocation mix, if the board adopted, which is our first major risk management tool that we use. so that meet