circumstances, or more of an incentive to stay married, it costs money to get divorced, some people say in theconomy him or her, you have to look at marriage, a held marriage or even a partnership without the legality as far as being more than just a relationship. it's also a financial partnership and it has more teeth when that paper is involved. that is just the reality. >> part of what i'm hearing that incentive to stay, part of the incentive to stay often keeps people in relationships they shouldn't say. >> if there is unhealthy, we shouldn't be in them. people lack the skillset to negotiate that. that what is we need to talk about. the fact is statistics are not there. there are not enough healthy models of two parents that are not together parenting the children co-parenting, it's not happening in the way it should. >> to be clear i'm not against the institution of marriage. i am about respecting all the different unions in which healthy relationships are formed and where marriage may or may not happen, to advocate for a healthy union and to be as emotional healthy. emotional justice. >> i wan