so it's a, um, thedivide in the country, i think, does get bigger as king abdullah has tried to do a few things; giving scholarships to nearly 140,000 saudis to study abroad including women, putting 30 women in this 150-person -- [inaudible] which has no power other than the power of debate, but that is, again, for the really conservative a totally inappropriate thing, of to have women -- and even though they're separated and covered, it's not proper. so, in their minds. so as he does these things, their opposition grows. and as their opposition grows, you know, the modern is tried. so it is a tug-of-war, and there is a, the fifth cay live after the death of muhammad, leader of the faithful, set up the califf in damascus, and he lasted for 20 years when the first four or, all but one, had been killed by somebody rather quickly. so he was asked how did you last so long, and he said concern b and this is what's perhapsed by the royal family now -- i hold a hair between me and my people. when they pull, i yield. when they yield, i pull. and that is exactly what happens in saudi arabia.