he obviously was hurt by the thedown, which affected northern virginia constituency. he got slammed on that. i think it played out as predicted and i think it put a real scare -- one of the reasons the democratic senators are so afraid of obamacare and went to see obama about it is because of the virginia results. ? >> i do not know anyone who seriously believed that mcauliffe had a double-digit lead. pole on had an outside it. points always a 5, 6, 7- margin. i think the perception is obamacare and the rollout in the disappointment and all that dissatisfaction did in fact perception does become reality, no question about it. for republicans it is a very serious warning that they cannot run somebody who is so far out of the mainstream in a mainstream state. >> nina? >> i agree with both charles and mark. i think cuccinelli lucked out in one way. he was terribly hurt i the shutdown, but that was over. the last week or 10 days, there was nothing but this crescendo, bad story about obamacare. so, i think he definitely benefited by that and i think it is a warning to repu