that is why liberals like newsday columnist say when it comes to helping theeed, that is mostly government's>> well, listen, it would be great if people of reach into their hearts and solved all these will problems. that does not happen. in almost every single case where they're is a government program that exists because the private efforts. when y have 04 enough. john: that is because politicia said they were not enough and we could do better. i would argue that a government did not takes a much of our money the private sector would take carof these problems. >> hold on a second. let's get older aricans. the poorest sector of our society. something called social security camelot. medicare came along. all the people rlly do comparatively fairly well. we had hdred kids spread all across america. those numbers were cut dramatically in spite of the generous churches and nice people. >> programs are trillions in debt. unsustainable. >> maybe we have to tweak. t you can't throw away the idea. the realitys we need government then there. john: food stamps, a couple billionaires' could find that al

theeed to get back to where big cities are an engine for improvement. >> the next question, how do you lan on getting african-americans to embrace the gop in plan and the general. you sign my ld pocket constitution. 33.t's table [ applause ] 5% of the got african-american vote. it used to be better. in 1920, we got 99% of the african-american vote. in 1928, we were up above 2/3 of the vote. from s a dramatic switch 28 to 32. after that, it slips us.ressively away from not necessarily the issues. we have to change the opinions and attitudes on issues. i think it is true that if you don't have money or you don't have a business, you aren't that concerned about regulation and taxings. if i talk to people who are trying to get ahead in life and aren't yet successful, it could be young people. ethnic groups on occasion. about re not excited taxes. they're excited about personal liberty. the criminal justice system incarcerate airly certain peoples in certain races. ne of the things as a libertarian republican that we don't think any individual should be incarcerated without a trial. that so