cupp and natasha alford vice president of digital content and senior correspondent for thegrio. good to have you both on. we won't shout at each other, i promise that. i wonder, s.e. cupp, you are conservative, you and i and us together have watched a lot of state of the union speeches, good moments and bad. that was a bad moment. it was -- it was just ugly, right? and, again, as jessica said, some of this is just the nature of the way our political discourse is today, but a lot of shouting going at a sitting president that even the republican speaker was uncomfortable with. was it a good political look for republicans? >> i think it was inside their base, right? i mean, i think this republican party, especially under trump, really conditioned voters to want a politics of revenge where they are yelling out and breaking with the traditional rules. so don't be surprised, kevin mccarthy, when you invite disrupters into congress that you get disruption. i thought his shushing of his own conference to be remarkable, both because i didn't expect it from him, he hasn't done much to dis