does thehe posbili already pretty bes -- freeze on businesses?? >> it is sort of groundhog day. we have been through this so ny tes since the recession ended. it creates so much volatility. we were expecting interest rates to gup in september because we excted t the taper to stop. it did not stop. the 10-year treasury fell back about 6.5%. the market is almost expecting the government not to function at this pointnt. >> sad butrue. whwhat do o you think? >> i feel th same. expect certain things w will ll back. we have come to live in thi environment where people are cautious in decision-making. a great examplele of at has happened to the ofoffice market since the crcrash in 2008 when thingsround to a halt, companies have had to look at how theyse office space. we call that workplace strategies. people are trying to figure out how toto do more with less. it is not just less space. itit is anpportunity to thk about how orgazatis function . >> employment is picking up. wiwith new technology, you can t more people into a smaller amount of spe. let's go through the recession to where