give her back the money and thelma can have back the plastic tea set. thelma is caught. she admits that she can't give back the money because she bought the new tea set, the one that frances wanted all along. they strike a new bargain. thelma gives frances the china tea set, and even the extra dime. you can imagine when thelma opens the sugar bowl and realizes there's only a penny, she tells frances that she is tricked, and now she's going to have to be careful around her. at which point frances reminds thelma of the trick that was played on her in the first place and says it's not so much fun to be careful. it would be better to be friends. all right. it was a little indulgent to tell you that story, but here's the deal, the point is that you, dear voter, are frances. she's basically an ordinary american. she knows she wants the real thing. real opportunity, real recovery, real fairness, real security, the real china set with blue flowers, but when she's looking for a short-term bargain, sometimes this voter will get the short end of the stick, and the bill of goods tha

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thelma and lowis may go over the cliff. >> that was a horrible movie.ou say that it is more real and possible than we think. >> i think so. let's take the hypothis that barack obama. tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires will go up to a million dollars. i don't think they will raise it to -- >> joe biden may have been tipped it. he tipped it. it is the shummerplan . tax cuts will be gone and barack obama if someone passed the extension they will be gone. if mitt romney is reelected and you get a republican senate you will have an extension of one year of all of the bush tax cuts while governor romney works on the tax reform. i think we will get hit with is a pay roll tax cut that we got several years ago. they cut it from 6-4 that is a $1,000 on a family. >> we have gotten used to that. and no one is mentioning that. and a $2000 on a family making a thousand. this is tremendous hit and my understanding that both parties agreed that has to lapse. but at our economy of 1.4 that a tremendous growth. >> it is slower now than when the president just

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that the day after the election, i don't think we should let happen is what could be described aid thelma and luis economic, right out of cliff. all people that i know, everyone who is knowledgeable believes that allow taxes to go up on everyone. producers. neil: there are still division there, maybe -- >> that is why we have negotiations. neil: would a lame duck likely push everything back. >> a lame duck would likely soft will prob -- solve the problem, what the solution is i don't know. neil: i think you know. >> i don't. neil: i think you do. mitch mcconnell thank you very much in his beautiful state. we'll talk with javier becerra about 50 minutes away. it could reinforce an impression that mitt romney made for republicans last week or change the ball game, usually vice presidential debates do that, but they pun punctuate, more frm danville, kentucky, right after this. hahahaha! hooohooo, hahaha! this is awesome! folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. i'd say happier than a slinky on an escalator. get happy. get geico. melons!!! oh ah!! well that was un

. >> on august 16th, 2012, thelma wagner of palm coast is found guilty of careless driving. her license is suspended for three months, and she's required to take the exam to get it back. >> i had to get 32 stitches all together. i have lumps on my body. >> i'm still pulling glass out of my leg. >> the florida highway patrol doesn't find any mechanical problems with her car. a 2004 toyota camry. as for lashaunda and her children, their recovering from this ordeal the best way they can. >> i thank the lord that i'm still alive right now. >> a lot of people said that they're surprised that nobody actually passed away in the accident. so i really feel lucky that i didn't. >>> for far less impactful yet oddly curious entrance, you wouldn't expect to see america's most beloved green latex character in a 7-eleven late at night. this time gumby is caught on the store security camera, and he's up to no good. it's monday morning of labor day weekend, 2011, when detective gary hassen of the san diego police department is briefed on a strange incident that occurred the night before. >>

what happens if we actually do get to that point where we are, you know, jumping over it like thelma and loue? >> there are two sides to the fiscal cliff. tax hikes and spending cuts. my judgment is the spending cuts are mainly a good thing. the u.s. is spending too much money and a lot of the we are spending it on his whistle. so most of the spending cuts i would be perfectly happy with an adult think that they will do much to slow dn the economy. tax hikes are a different story. clearly terrible idea. to some extent we may already be seen asa tax. the current slow-growth is partially anticipation, so we are not necessarily going to be falling off a cliff on january january 1. we are already sort of going down that the slowly because of the anticipatn of those tax hikes. tracy: and you know what, nine times out o ten they make things retroactive anyway, so if we fall off the cliff will bounce right back over to the other side come january. thank you for your insights. >> my pleasure. thank you. tracy: it is not just economic poli. newly released -mails showing the white house and th

they are calling in the thelma and louise strategy. a scene from the movie. went over the cliff. they end up in a freeze frame hanging in mid-air. the credits rolled. the real economy might not do that. let's talk about the possibilities. dana bash, and ali velshi and gloria borger. you say when it comes to the fiscal cliff, there is virtually nothing going on behind the scenes, not from the president or the speaker of the house or either of their staffs. >> i am told from a leadership that the house speaker hasn't talked to the president since july, three months ago. you would think, they are not communicating at the highest levels. they are both kind of busy, especially the president. maybe they are talking at a staff level. nope. that's not happening either. there have been some white house internal meetings, contingency plans. sources have been saying there is no point. no one thinks it is worth it before the election. the dynamic of the discussions will be determined by who wins, who has the most leverage. so that's the big reason why nobody is talking a

she won an award for oscar for "thelma and louise." husband is t bone burnett. >> we'll check that out. "world news now" music and media consultant bruno del granado. >> it sounds much more sexy when you say it. >> del granado. of course. >> bruno. >> thank you. >> the candidates' wives, head-to-head? >> we are going to tell what you have to hear, voters who say, michelle obama and ann romney's showdown was a treat. they never had it though. we'll explain. you're watching "world news now." >> announcer: "world news now" continues after this from our abc stations. watching "world news now." >>> well, as the political campaign starts to come down the stretch, maybe you can't blame some voters for getting a little confused. >> so many commercials, so much rhetoric, and then there are the debates. presidential, vice presidential, and then, of course, the candidates' wives. >> wait. what was that last one? >> the candidates' wives. >> abc's david muir is on the case. >> reporter: jimmy kimmel conducted a simple experiment, and it caught our

er in rioting in athens, china is in a slow down and the fiscal cliff is on the way, folks, "thelma & louise" style. we will tie that all together for what it means for your money. welcome and happy anniversary, america, because five years ago today, the s & p 500 peaked at 1565. our big run the last few years, we are only about 120 points, 8% away from the highs. one thing about us americans, mandy, we don't like to finish in second place. so, how do we bust through that last mile and climb to new all-time highs? or should we be worried that hit willing those unsustainable highs will bring us down again? how do we hit new highs on the s & p 500? >> we have a 1600 target on the s & p the end of the year, propel us easily through the new highs, a couple of factors out in the market a lot relate around uncertainty. you keyed on at the top of your show, the fiscal cliff. more reports coming out a deal might be had, might not necessarily be a long-term deal, the financial times reporting today that some republicans are starting to shift a little bit as far as their taxation demands. might

because it was written by callie cory, the writer of -- of, gosh, she won an award for oscar for "thelmaouise." >> we will check that out. "world news now" music and media consultant, bruno del grenado. >> sound much more sexy than when you say it. >> bruno. >> thank you. >> the candidates' wives, head-to-head? >> we are going to tell what you have to hear, voters who say, michelle obama and ann romney's showdown was a treat. they never had it though. we'll tell you. >> well, as the political campaign starts to come down the stretch, maybe you can't blame some voters for getting a little confused. >> so many commercials, so much rhetoric, debates. presidential, vice presidential and the candidates' wives. >> the last one? >> candidates wives. >> abc's david muir is on the case. >> reporter: jimmy kimmel conducting an experiment and it caught our eye. >> we asked people what they thought about the first lady debate, between michelle obama and ann romney. >> reporter: kimmel's crew learned didn't stop people from answeri answering. >> who do you think won the debate between ann romney and

republican leaders are already complaining about president obama's, quote, thelma and louise strategyhe movie of course the lead characters chose to drive off a cliff instead of surrender to go police. a fair analogy? >> a little harsh, i think, but the results of the election will drive to an extent the possibility or the protects of this fiscal cliff occurring. because the new president or president elect will have to work with congress and are they going to budget restatement and increase the limit or take steps to reduce it. but it does to an extend who the new president is what the working relationship would be. >> which is the more market friendly outcome? >> i actually think a re-election of president obama would be market friendly globally not only because the current policies that his party is espousing, but also on the degree owe political scene worldwide. it's much more stable for the global economy if president obama is reelecting because all these other issues whether the middle east or iran, et cetera, the world will look and see that president obama is the one who is mo

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. >> stephanie: thelma in los angeles, you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, i justh?" ] >> stephanie: totally, right. >> caller: so this is what i'm saying, women stay focused because mitt romney is a republican. and don't forget this is the republican party. todd akin is mitt romney, don't forget -- >> stephanie: i forget why you called again. oh, stay focused. >> caller: stay focused. >> stephanie: i have got it. oh, look shiny keys, what? [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: i have got it. welcome dave from texas. >> caller: hi first time caller. glad to get through. >> stephanie: thank you. go ahead. >> caller: the gop has been targeting education, and for most of my lifetime they have been doing that. and they cut funding to education, and now romney is wanting to target pbs -- >> stephanie: and in particular sesame street. >> caller: exactly. but pbs is educational. and it seems to me it is obvious that he wants everybody to keep believe lying, and you want a populous that doesn't know how to think for itself, doesn't know how to question anything or know the

thelma on our line for republicans. caller: you see them in a different light. thought it was wonderful. both of them did a good job. but i am for romney. host: have you seen him in that way before? caller: not really. i just laughed so hard last night. it was really funny. -- : on twiter -ter on our line for republicans, tamera, good morning. can you hear us? you are on. caller: i am sorry. i am a canadian citizen. it is a great country. i am here and new york. obama did a great job. a sense of humor is a great thing. it is written by other people, but he made fun of himself and a lot of things. the other thing with romney is that -- was critical about obama. he was criticizing, more critical. you can tell it was written by someone who did not have a sense of humor. but obama did a great job. i think he is a great guy. host: there definitely were some barbs and the joke last night. jacksonville, fla., on our line for democrats. caller: good morning. i am down here in jacksonville. i am an aggressive political cartoonist. it progressive. even the republicans lik

michael and thelma king were stabbed to death in their vacation home last month.ing out further suspects. >>> a google search by a bored u.s. marshal has turned up one of the fbi's most wanted criminals after 30 years on the run. john donald cody was already under arrest in ohio under the name bobby thompson but a search matched an old photo of cody to his alter ego. the feds want him in connection with a multimillion dollar charity scam. >>> all right something missing from the ikea catalog in one country, moms! the giant furniture retailer ikea apologizing for the saudi arabian version of its catalog. it deleted all traces of women from the magazine. and from its companion website. apparently in accordance with saudi arabian rules about showing women in public. but ikea now says it regrets the move and that excluding women is in conflict with the company's values. >> can't take mom out of the catalog. all right ahead on "starting point," spanning the world to find the greatest moments in sports. award winning sports caster len berman, no relation, joins us to ta

first, if mitt romney is thelma, why america doesn't want to be francis.