>> so we know when "thelma & louise" came out, it caused a big stir and it was in the press everywhereaid, "this will change everything. now there's gonna to be so many movies with female stars because it hit -- struck such a nerve. and then after "a league of their own," it was like, "there's going to be so many more sports movies with women. and we know how many of those have come out. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> past 25 years so, but i believed it. it sounded great and, yay, i get to be in a movie that's changing everything that's so awesome. and then nothing and then nothing and nothing. but, then every five years or so, something comes out. "hunger games" comes out, whatever well now, everything is different now and it never is. >> seth: and basically, your data shows, certainly in the role, when you look at something like female directors, it's about as bad as it's always been >> right >> seth: even though, i think if you ask people, they would say because of, you know, "wonder woman" and whatnot, they'd think, "oh, no, it's better now. it's probably close to 50/50." >> there