one of the researchers had found my grandfather's world war i draft application which had said theodore burns and then in parentheses bernstein. we'd always believed that he was of scottish descent. that he had been born in brooklyn. it turns out that he was born in russia. he emigrated in 1906. so, that was you know my mother had had confused pieces of that. and then my grandmother who was parisian i knew her well and then her middle name was simon. and i had discovered very quickly that her mother's maiden name was david and her mother's maiden name was levy. so, it didn't get much more jewish than that. so both of my grandparents were closeted/assimilated. my mother believed that they may not have even known about each other's hidden jewish identities. >> that is fascinating. >> well, the first step was to go home to my lover and tell her i was a junior. my lover was jewish. she said always knew you had it. >> a jewish mind. >> right. and so that was my first stop as far as my immediate community. then i had gone back and i found my relatives in texas and they had had some communication an