theodore herzl's incredibly important. that's 1835, that's will have 10 years, 15 years later. 1919, i know that book by margaret macmillan. it's a wonderful book. and it's absolutely true if you look at the, if you look at the conflicts that are happening thousand in the middle east -- including israel and the palestinians -- it's all, it's all previewed in the settlement after world war i. well, what you have then is france, you have france takes syria, france elevates the alawites to power. what's going on now is an incredible or war waged, civil war. in iraq, same problem. saddam hussein is the, was the arab, the sunnis that the british put in power. so, yes, that -- and palestine existed as a holy land a, but it didn't exist as a country. people thought about palestine, and they wrote about palestine, but the actual geographical boundaries get set by the british after world war i. so, you know, as you think about what's happening now in the world, the two most important events are what happens after world war i and wh