earlier we spoke to theodore murphy, who is the director of the africa program at the european council on foreign relations. he says the mediation talks are focusing on who will lead a new civilian government. i think there's some, some positive elements there, but we need to bear in mind that what's decisive for the other side in this conflict, for the protest movement on the street is the reinstatement of prime minister and uk as the civilian leader of the government. that's going to be a key to determining it. we're talking now about civilian leadership. but until that's very clearly defined. who that will be person a 5 by. it's a little bit open to interpretation. what is actually been agreed. i think that the, the conflict between the 2 or the way this has evolved, has led the protest movement to create new demands to go a step further than where we were with the status quo. i have the those well that within the protest movement, some sense of sobriety is setting in and there, there may be a growing consensus about the return to the status quo as being not a bad place to restart f

with theodore murphy's, the director of the africa program at the european council on foreign relations. he's joining us by scott, from berlin vega to have you with us on al jazeera. i would ask you about this possible reinstatement of abdullah hum dog given the fact that he was arrested, he was ousted, he was put under house arrest and now he, he possibly is back as prime minister. what do you think is happening with this? but i think this is a, this is a ray of array of lights. there is some hope that we're finding a way out of the past that has caused a lot of bra bloodshed, and, and brought sudan to an impass. it's important to you to know the latest state of play. what we have right now is a verbal agreement. i understand between the prime minister, honda and general border on but is not. he had a written agreement. we have verbal assurances on both sides. there is pushback on this, isn't there because the forces of freedom and change i believe who were originally parts to some degree of the original structure of the they call it coalition are saying that they're not involved in th