al qaeda that attacked the united states on 9/11 and the al qaeda today? >> the al qaeda that attacked us on 9/11, first and foremost had a state sanctuary in afghanistan. so theore al qaeda in afghanistan numbered in the thousands. it had training camps, it had a personnel system like full human hr system. it was fairly sophisticated entity t could brin recruits. take the 9/11 pilots. key caudry because they were more ecated. they could learn to fly planes. they come from germany, they didn't come to afghanistan to attack the united states. they originally wanted to go to chechnya, volunteer to fight russians. and then they were channeled in the al qaeda system. well now wouldn' you-- we think you should do this instead. we think you should consider this kind of mission. and they wer cultivated, indoctrine ated, you have all of that system. now plus, of course, a lot of global offshoots in yemen and in other communities around the world. now contrast that today. al qaeda central is substantially diminished. the state haven is lost. they're pushed into their basically hunted and on the run and mainly in pakistan, a little bit in yemen too, in the arabian peninsul