theresa may didn't want that cosy relationship, she didn't want that structure.differently from my relationships with journalists then. and there you go to the us and trump would choose an journalist from the sun to ask questions from the uk side. afterward, you call them your friends? i said no, they're not ourfriends. it's interesting you talk about agendas both of politicians and their advisers but also of journals. michael, when you're considering source information coming in your direction, presumably you're acutely aware that whoever has given it to you may well have an agenda. every time some source tells you something you have to say well, why are they telling me this, and why have they come to me, what is it to try to get across, and do i believe them? and depending on whether they've got an interest in what's coming up or something they happen to know, that all becomes part of the assessment and part of the calculation that you have to make as to how many and what strength of other sources you need. allegra used to be my producer on newsnight. i was on

katie, you manage these relationships from the other side when you were working with theresa may, howip, as a working relationship, as nothing more than something that serves both sides? i think it was a working relationship. and i've known many of these journalists before numberio. it's a game of cat and mouse when you feel you're constantly —— may feel you're trying to cover up —— may feel you're trying to cover up the truth and we feel on never say that journalists are up the truth and we feel on never say thatjournalists are picking over every single word and trying to make something out of it. i think there are cosy relationship between special advisers and that's how it goes. it does come back to how your principal want to ask with up theresa may didn't want that cosy relationship, she didn't want that structure. it changed quite differently from my relationships with journalists. and there you go to the us and trump would choose a journalist from the sun to ask questions from the uk side. afterwards someone said, you call them your friends? i said no, they're not ourfriends. we

he was a colleague of mine at work during theresa may on downing street and work with me on the bbc.elationships are very difficult. my own stand is to try and keep a certain distance is much as i can. but there have been relationships in the past. i remember in the blair years both the alastair campbell and peter mendelson were very close to certain journalists and it always seemed to be those journalists that came out with the stories that were favourable to the blair government. and i was very uncomfortable with that. and i think a lot of colleagues were uncomfortable with that. that certain journals can be used as mouthpieces for certain politicians. kitty, i wonder if you agree with that assessment. absolutely. i started work in the lobby during the blair years and i did know of many people it seemed to me that the certain senior types that i think at the time were getting all these groups was up and my employers were saying, where are you are in all this, why are you not getting scoops? as i get older and develop my own contacts same thing happens with that you have to take a v

and again a prominent scottish— theresa may and again a prominent scottish conservative has saidst government for the sake of it. against government for the sake of it every— against government for the sake of it. every time that some of your own mps rebel. _ it. every time that some of your own mps rebel, any prime minister loses a bit of— mps rebel, any prime minister loses a bit of authority. and then that is compounded by the fact you have labour _ compounded by the fact you have labour going to make sure these laws passed _ labour going to make sure these laws passed and _ labour going to make sure these laws passed and you saw the labour leader in a televised address earlier this evening _ in a televised address earlier this evening effectively commit more shots _ evening effectively commit more shots and — evening effectively commit more shots and likes to call him captain heisele _ shots and likes to call him captain heisele and he is trying to play the role of— heisele and he is trying to play the role of did — heisele and he is trying to play the role of did a sensible

suffered a bigger defeat _ saying theresa may suffered a bigger defeat and tony blair did over ablair did over a rock, but for boris johnson this is pretty— rock, but for boris johnson this is pretty humiliating and i think the questions she raised about what happens — questions she raised about what happens after the by election in shropshire is also very valid. 23,000 _ shropshire is also very valid. 23,000 is _ shropshire is also very valid. 23,000 is a majority there but the liberal— 23,000 is a majority there but the liberal democrats are running according _ liberal democrats are running according to the last poll i saw the neck and _ according to the last poll i saw the neck and neck with the conservative party _ neck and neck with the conservative party and _ neck and neck with the conservative party and if — neck and neck with the conservative party and if they lose, i suspect seeinq — party and if they lose, i suspect seeing real trouble in the short term _ seeing real trouble in the short term never mind the long term because — term never mind the long term because the

baker is relaunching the way forward group that caused so many problems for theresa may when i was inly lovely man, created huge problems for the government and will probably continue to do that for boris johnson. but steve baker certainly feeling the brand of conservatism that boris johnson feeling the brand of conservatism that borisjohnson is presiding over isn't his brand of conservatism and absolutely no suggestion that he will leave the conservative party, but a suggestion he will challenge borisjohnson, he said he tried that before with theresa may and got there in the end, but it is something that is very worrying for borisjohnson and the people around him, you could argue some of what has happened in the last few weeks is a form of tittle tattle, but at the heart of it, there are major, very important trust issues. what is even more important is the fact that 60 conservative mps are on the record saying that they will vote against these measures on tuesday. it is to the days since boris johnson got a majority of 80 and it was unthinkable on that day two years ago, i remember

it because so many problems for theresa may when i was in government between have years. certainly someone who will continue to do that for borisjohnson but he is certainly feeling that the brand of conservatism that borisjohnson is providing over is not his brand of conservatism and there is no suggestion he will lead the conservative party or suggestion you would challenge borisjohnson. he said he tried that before with theresa may and got there in the end but it is something that is very worrying for borisjohnson and people around him the fact that you can argue some of what has happened in the last few weeks is a form of tittle tattle but at the heart of it there are those major and very very important trust issues. what i think is even more important is the fact that 60 conservative mps are on the record saying we're going against these measures on tuesday. it is two years today since boris johnson these measures on tuesday. it is two years today since borisjohnson got an 80 strong majority and it was unthinkable that day two years ago. i was working at the time. it

it's easy to see theresa may's authority disappeared. time. where do you think borisjohnson lies in this? is he somebody who can stagger on with this loss of authority, or will he have to find a way to confront it? he still got on paper the biggest conservative majority. paper the biggest conservative ma'ori . ., , , ., majority. you can completely ignore that. i majority. you can completely ignore that- lthink— majority. you can completely ignore that. i think if— majority. you can completely ignore that. i think if anybody _ majority. you can completely ignore that. i think if anybody has - majority. you can completely ignore that. i think if anybody has the - that. i think if anybody has the capacity to bounce back, it is boris johnson. he does have an extraordinarily political persona which we've seen when he decides to work hard and focus, and he has the right team behind him. in many ways, he can be quite unbeatable. i think one reason why so many people voted against him tonight, actually, they want him to get back on game and the

this is coming from nikki decoster, a former aide to both theresa may and borisjohnson, she was director is the person who probably knows most about the workings of parliament in whitehall. she is a great bridge between the house of commons and number ten. she seems to think that darren rosenfeld ought to go, and she has been tipped in the past as somebody from the chief of staffjob.— chief of staff 'ob. interesting... it is chief of staff job. interesting... it is interesting, _ chief of staff job. interesting... it is interesting, though, - chief of staff job. interesting... it is interesting, though, we i chief of staff job. interesting... | it is interesting, though, we can talk as_ it is interesting, though, we can talk as much as we like about changing _ talk as much as we like about changing advisors and changing staff, _ changing advisors and changing staff, we — changing advisors and changing staff, we have seen dominic cummings' comings and goings and his bitter revenge since he left. if he doesn't _ bitter revenge since he left. if he doesn't have anybody, grown—ups to say, th

theresa may did used - to come to lambeth palace, i believe, sometimes.counsel our current leaders, i suppose? _ and i know you don't- want to personalise things, but is it an important principle for politicians that they- should tell the truth? i mean, i think it wasjohn, . in the gospel ofjohn, i think, it says that the truth shall set you free. . that's whatjesus said. should our politicians follow that principle? j he also said, "i am the truth." so it's another good principle to follow him. yes, it's really complicated, isn't it? because there are bits... you know. you're all very much more experienced in politics than i am. you know as well as i do there are things people can't say. that a lot of political work has to be done behind—the—scenes, because when it is public, it immediately destroys what you're trying to do. but i suppose i would say, you don't always tell the whole truth, in the sense that you don't lie, but you don't talk about everything. but when you speak, you should speak truthfully. and it's very, very rare — instances of national

three decades, he has grilled every prime minister, from margaret thatcher up to and including theresa may drew the iconic words, let bygones be bygones from nelson mandela. he shared a plane with idi amin, reported on wars in iran and crises in vietnam. and it's not all been hard news. he has danced and sung on tv and even got stoned on camera. but he has also been accused of being too partisan, of having political views that were too obvious and which undermine the network's impartiality. and so, at a time when the future of channel 4 is up for grabs, his words have come under unprecedented scrutiny. jon snow, welcome to the media show, and i guess before we start, the first question is, you've got a few days left at channel 4 news. hoping for an interview with borisjohnson? i'm absolutely standing ready and i have every hope that that phone call will come and i'll suddenly be able to say i have literally interviewed every prime minister since i've started. before we get stuck in, ijust want to get one thing clear, which is how you see yourself. we know how we see you, but how do you see

true, theresa may and forest johnson. and care star. huh. because he is part of that group. if you drew a line down the middle of politics in the u. k. and their progressive to care about redressing the imbalance between the rich and the poor. know lowest things the, the i care about. and now i am a when born address he cares about. and patty french, kids about and jeremy colbin, kaz about i. e, they care about human rights, they would be to the left of that kiss dom or is so far to the rights of that line is shouldn't he should be allowed in the labor party is effing joe frank again is against our says he's, he's for the working class, and he has appointed actually some blair, right known blair, right? i think they were admitted to being blair, right? people into his shadow cabinet. and the actually arguably saw seem to be a little critical of jo biden's decision to withdraw troops or of canister articles of the labor government here that supported the wasn't, have got us on. and iraq, what did you make of this? this is a you know, sort of saigon moment. it's been called so

three decades, he has grilled every prime minister, from margaret thatcher up to and including theresa maydi amin,

this is bad for johnson, the largest defeat of a prime minister since theresa may lost a major vote onis party is sending him a message that is not simply to do with the particular restrictions they were voting on but his credibility, his authority in general after a month of negative headlines over his management of everything from parties at downing street. the vote will be at of depth with the public mood. omicron cases are rising at an alarming rate. the fact that people are lining up for booster shots, responding to the government call, lots of christmas parties being canceled, that suggests the scientific advice is something resonating with the public and they are responding. whether that translates into confidence in the government and the prime minister, that is where doubts come in. we will see more thursday, and clearly his party has put him on notice that a potential leadership challenge -- not this year for sure, but next year -- and the party is showing divisions between those willing to back boris johnson, and those who want to rethink the pandemic policy. this is not jus

previous conservative prime minister �*s, theresa may, david cameron, their downfall was brexit.johnson's op yalata has waned slightly with a pandemic, and over these revelations of parties in his downing street residence was would be the downfall of borisjohnson? ll downfall of boris johnson? it might be. a lot of people off before. he has a remarkable ability to repel and to see off things that other politicians would affect badly, interesting you talk about brexit. you could make an argument that one of his problems in a way, and it could be a problem in the next general election is brexit may long be the issue solely as it was in 2019. he won the election with get brexit done, he said again and again. brexit is done, it is done as a serious political issue, it would be impossible to campaign at the next election. at least he would know the process, and you have seen here in north shropshire a seat which is very heavily, voted over 60% believe. you might looks like they have elected a liberal democrat member of parliament who went into the last election pledging a second refer

apparently allies of theresa may are going to coalesce and resist the prime minister.haps that is well. i noticed one of the memes was going around. it had theresa made doing one of her dance steps guiding boris johnson across number ten. it is personal. very interesting point about the potential people whose names might a prayer —— appear. it's wrong for government to say they're nothing to the government because they're people who are guaranteed to support the government. if not, they're out of a job. a point comes with the prime minister's authority has been weekend, and people start behaving in ways they wouldn't otherwise a. behaving in ways they wouldn't otherwise a— behaving in ways they wouldn't otherwise a. ~ ~ �* , . otherwise a. well, i think it's much too early to — otherwise a. well, i think it's much too early to say _ otherwise a. well, i think it's much too early to say that _ otherwise a. well, i think it's much too early to say that the _ otherwise a. well, i think it's much too early to say that the prime - too early to say that the prime minister— t

this includes different wings of the party, centrists, people who used to be quite close to theresa mayroversial decisions on covid regulations that have been taken. it will be interesting to see how many of them follow through with voting against the government, and then, the analysis can move quite quickly from that on to what this means for the government going forward. what it means for the prime minister if he decides, as many have been speculating over the last few hours in parliament, and i confirmed, absolutely not confirmed, something the government doesn't want to do. if the prime minister felt that more restrictions are neededin felt that more restrictions are needed in response to the spread of omicron. . ~ needed in response to the spread of omicron. w' ., , needed in response to the spread of omicron. w ., , ., , _ ., omicron. nick early in the lobby of the house of _ omicron. nick early in the lobby of the house of commons. we - omicron. nick early in the lobby of. the house of commons. we believe omicron. nick early in the lobby of- the house of commons. we believe you n

pulling it back to the front pages, omicron no less severe, they're saying to get to the point that theresa maynobody quite knows why, but they have not. ~ , ., ., ~ ., nobody quite knows why, but they have not. , ., ., ~ ., ,, , have not. we 'ust do not know, susie was riaht have not. we 'ust do not know, susie was right and— have not. we just do not know, susie was right and that _ have not. we just do not know, susie was right and that some _ have not. we just do not know, susie was right and that some of— have not. we just do not know, susie was right and that some of these - was right and that some of these things. _ was right and that some of these things. it — was right and that some of these things, it is too early to tell and this will— things, it is too early to tell and this will be _ things, it is too early to tell and this will be do need to be cautious and i_ this will be do need to be cautious and i am _ this will be do need to be cautious and i am in — this will be do need to be cautious and i am in favour of plan b. there was and i am in favour of plan b. there wasa— and i am i

katie, you - manage these relationships from the other side when you were working with theresa may, how- sides? i think it was a working relationship. and i've known i relationship. and i've known many of these journals before he answered number ten. it's a game of cat and mouse when they feel you're constantly trying to cover up the truth that we feel on the other side that journalists are picking over every single word and tried to make something out of it, trying to say that there is called beggarly or wrongdoing when actually it once look of a word and all of a sudden you are in a whole new territory. i think there are cosy relationship between special advisers and that's how it goes. it does come back to how your principal want to ask with “p your principal want to ask with up teresa mae didn't want that cosy relationship, she didn't want that structure. it changed quite differently from my relationships with journalists then there was a david cameron seen that before. and there you go to the us and trump would choose an journalist from the sun to ask questions of trauma from the u

therefore he has to back the but it is rather ironic because, of course, this is the situation that theresa mayshe was being opposed by borisjohnson in that a lot of her suggestions over how to proceed with brexit you only get through with opposition votes. this is not a comfortable position for the government to be in and even more uncomfortable now because if they were to do some kind of pact, even if it werejustified were to do some kind of pact, even if it were justified by changing circumstances, nevertheless it would cause some damage. it circumstances, nevertheless it would cause some damage.— circumstances, nevertheless it would cause some damage. if you were still there advising _ cause some damage. if you were still there advising them, _ cause some damage. if you were still there advising them, which _ cause some damage. if you were still there advising them, which way - cause some damage. if you were still| there advising them, which way would you advise them to go? hold it or not how would it? you you advise them to go? hold it or not how would it?— you advise them to go? hold it o

shroshire. ., . ., ., let's discuss what this result means with james johnson, who was pollster for theresa may the polling company, jl partners. a very good evening to you. we heard it there, there were absolutely local issues. they did play a part, but what do you believe really swung it for the liberal democrats? to what extent was this a referendum on the prime minister? i what extent was this a referendum on the prime minister?— the prime minister? i think it was. obviously local _ the prime minister? i think it was. obviously local issues _ the prime minister? i think it was. obviously local issues always - the prime minister? i think it was. obviously local issues always play | the prime minister? i think it was. l obviously local issues always play a 0bviously local issues always play a factor, but this was actually probably a by election defined by national issues. if you look at the year of a by election where the conservatives last to liberal democrats. there were a unique local issues at play there. housing planning, hs two. there were some small local issues, but broadly speaking,

that russia and china together are working as allies theresa this concern. russia may invade ukraine and china may invade taiwan. how concerning the similarities in their approach to foreign policy? i definitely think that there is an echo effect going on. we saw this with crimea, and the little green men basing you better believe it was watching very carefully how the international community was responding. and they take that into account when they're trying to make their calculus in regards to one. the other issue is russia and china have these kind of small windows of opportunity. both will be facing demographic challenges. their economies are growing as rapidly as they once were. and i think that even this kind of technical advantage right now, you mentioned the hypersonic gliders, the u. s. is now completely focused on great powered competition after they left afghanistan. so there's a short window of opportunity. i think that both moscow amazing. see before the u. s military kind of gears up for this great power competition and they're trying to explain how a washington view th

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kid is slow going gridlock right now is cars are just barely getting through it may not get much better for a while for theresa explains with all the storm set to come. we should keep in mind if you're planning to head to the sierra. >> you can see for yourself in these captured images from along highway 80 in truckee. just how treacherous the conditions are heading to the mountains. and officials say that they can get even worse in the snap of a finger. and i would say cameras don't even do at lake are huge and they are coming down hard and fast. >> and it did leading to some tricky roadway conditions. the officer man with chp reminding people. if you had help and you have a four-wheel drive. that's great. but the law says you must carry chains as well. kind of one of those little known law here in california. but your regardless of having four-wheel-drive all-wheel drive or 2 wheel drive. if you're traveling in mountainous terrain during the winter. you're required to carry chains that all time. >> and that more last. not that you're going to have to put him on the interstate. if you've got good snow tires,

and that may explain why a russia lenary very distinguished russian. german was also to awarded crime for foot for the prize, but maria theresa is someone just truly exceptional. i think for journal, she's come a long way. i mean, she started off working at cnn, of course, as cnn's bureau chief in manila, and then went on to create her new website wrapper. and she's been a thorn on the side of philippines present today. go to take a for a long time. i mean, i, she's had so many cases again, so there's even a libel case against her that was filed as she was frying here 2 hours. no, just a few days ago. even getting 2 hours no, was so difficult for her. for the last today, she didn't know whether she was going to make it. i actually was on the same flight with her. and she had been to new york, but she had to fly back to the philippines to get a new authorization to fly, to also to pick up our peace prize. in the, in the courts granted her the permission. but for the longest time, she wasn't sure that she was going to make it because she's been under some inclusion permission for bail. yes, said she's not all. she's not drop ch

may not have ever driven in the snow. they really just don't know what they're doing. and they're expecting a lot of crowds. theresa thank you so much about driving next week. let us ghost. all right. let's take a live look outside here in the wet golden gate bridge. there's rain still scattered across the bay area today and some rainbows as well. our meteorologist mabrisa rodriguez is here talking about. the rain forecast. she's also still got that live look at tahoe right now. are they expecting more snow in the sierra. yeah, in fact, we're going to have a winter storm warning in effect through sunday afternoon, just eat and we're already seeing plenty of snow showers can't even make out the road so drivers. >> slowly inching their way towards their holiday destination. if you're looking for a white christmas. hopefully you headed out before today for those of you heading out to truckee or south lake tahoe because we are tracking plenty of snow blanketing the ground right now. little bit of drizzle out there. but we're in between storms with our next storm arriving during the overnight hours. but right now we are

theresa kron 4 news. >> the biden administration has extended a student loan payment moratorium into the spring payments on federal student loans will remain paused through may first. now 2022 interest rates will stay at 0% during that period and debt collection efforts will be suspended. those measures have been in place since early in the pandemic and we're set to expire the end of january next month's 2022 president biden said financial recovery from the pandemic will take longer than job recovery, especially for people who have student loans. well, congress is focused on the fight over the build back better plan. states are focused on fighting the omicron variant so far at least 7 states are using their national guard. >> to help out understaffed hospitals that are fighting the surge in covid cases. president biden now says that he's deploying one-thousand medical personnel from the military to back up hospitals in january and february. but the american hospital association says it's just a temporary fix to the medical under staffing. that has been plaguing hospitals for months now. a spokesman says the pandemic has made it harder to keep hospital worker

representative theresa fernandez representative susie lee and representative dina titus join us to ask questions of the witnesses. again, hearing no objection, that is so ordered. without objection, the chair may also declare a recess subject to the call of the chair. as described in the notice, statements, documents, or motions must be submitted to the electronic repository at the following email address. hnrcdocs@mail.house.gov. members are responsible for their own microphones. so, please do mute when you're not speaking, and members will be muted by staff only to avoid inadvertent background noise. finally, members or witnesses who are experiencing any technical problems should inform committee staff immediately. and i will now recognize myself for a brief opening statement. so thanks again for joining us for the first of two meetings that we're having on colorado river drought conditions and response measures. the colorado river is often called the hardest-working river in the west. and that's because it does so much for so many. the fact that we are meeting to hear testimony for more than 15 witnesses covering two separate days really speaks to this very fact. the colorado river supplies