theresa may paul. and seems like theresa may was right. all along.ther call to urgently another slogan call to urgently revive theresa may's plan for eu wide defence treaty. so the former uk prime minister theresa may many remember her. >> yeah, there's many of them. >> yeah, there's many of them. >> yeah. do you remember. >> yeah. do you remember. >> yeah. do you remember. >> yeah. just recently. >> yeah. just recently. >> yeah. just recently. >> yeah. exactly. proposal for cenotaph gets pretty crowded nowadays, yes, yes nowadays, doesn't it? yes, yes it does . um, for an eu wide it does. um, for an eu wide defence treaty needs to be revisited urgently. now again . revisited urgently. now again. must be now. now. >> must be done now. the leader of emmanuel macron's political group in brussels has said so. >> those are the first two red flags for me. first of all, is that, um, this is urgently demanded by europhile because all of macron's buddies are europhiles and, um, that it's been reported in the guardian. so first of all, that is the context. an

of staff to theresa may when she was prime minister, called barlow, former chief of staff to theresa minister, called the barlow, former chief of staff to theresa may when she was prime minister, called the remarks despicable. a growing number of people publicly denouncing what lee anderson was saying. he was deputy stare —— chair of the conservative party, a prominent spokesperson for the party until quite recently. they try to to apologise and he refused to do so so for that he is suspended. we don't know how long that suspension will last. if he does not apologise it could last until the next election and he would not be eligible to stand as a conservative candidate so this is potentially very serious for him. whether he has other plans remains to be seen but he willjoin a number of mps who are sitting as independents because they have been pushed out because —— pushed out by their respective parties. the labour party has welcomed the whip being withdrawn from lee anderson, although he has not been kicked out of the conservative parliamentary party, they said hearty apologise, tha

there are lots of _ and theresa may as well.isstep. — project something bigger. talk about the misstep, rishi _ project something bigger. talk about the misstep, rishi sunak, _ project something bigger. talk about the misstep, rishi sunak, over- the misstep, rishi sunak, over trans. and some say the misstep over the £1000 bet. if you want to signal that you are serious about your party and about the electorate and the people who you want to support you, don't you go and back people in a by—election campaign? you've been to wellingborough, the first one. where is rishi sunak in that? you've been to cambridge as well. where is he on this? brute been to cambridge as well. where is he on this? ~ , . , ,, ., ,, he on this? we expect rishi sunak not to no he on this? we expect rishi sunak not to go to _ he on this? we expect rishi sunak not to go to wellingborough. - he on this? we expect rishi sunak not to go to wellingborough. we l not to go to wellingborough. we expect— not to go to wellingborough. we expect him not to go to kingsw

um interestingly enough, theresa may, who was the home secretary at that time, did pubush secretary atublish her memoirs titled the abuse of power . publish her memoirs titled the abuse of power. uh, ironically , abuse of power. uh, ironically, but did not make any mention of this story. so we'll see how it pans out, basically. yeah. >> i mean, paul, do you think this people scratching around this is people scratching around to next post office to find the next post office scandal? to find the next post office sca maybe. mean , it's the >> maybe. i mean, it's in the guardian. so i'm sorry, but guardian. so, so i'm sorry, but that's the that's the, the that's the that's the, the that's what we're that's the perspective we're looking through. and it's interesting first of all, that this was first of all, that this was first discovered in a panorama show on the bbc. there's no way they would air a show like that now that that would be criticising people for allowing immigrants to come into the country. no, it's criticising no, no. yeah, that's exactly my point. i'm not sure i'm making it

was being , was when the when theresa may was being, was being, when the when theresa may was beings being , uh, was being, um, was being, uh, was i think, violated by donald trump is that what i remember when she, when her, her leopard skin shoes were sure about poking out from under her, under a i remember i do remember now i wonder where it was going, but i certainly this now. certainly remember this now. >> look it later. >> so i'll look it up later. >> so i'll look it up later. >> or if not, i'll ask a child in a playground anyway, we go on one more story in the telegraph. >> the >> yes, well, of course the telegraph go king has telegraph go with king has cancer uh, petra of cancer again and, uh, petra of uh. yeah his royal highness there and but also very interestingly, they've got a rather story here, but rather smaller story here, but it's story far as i'm it's a big story as far as i'm concerned. it a suspected concerned. it says a suspected chemical dead . chemical attacker may be dead. and the reason they're hypothesising this is because he was last seen on southwark brid

theresa may.hink that signalled some would say in her party's say the decline in her party's fortunes election . i mean, fortunes that election. i mean, you to keir starmer there, you go to keir starmer there, tom, and you're right. um, keir starmer power as starmer came into power as labour leader, um, to over two years ago because he wasn't jeremy corbyn now, that's why he's there. he said the past associations of the . party with associations of the. party with disgusting anti semitism, that's not what i stand for. i will make this party fit to govern. um, he's going to a mess though because he's agreed to follow the government on international policy, on security issues , policy, on security issues, notably on israel and gaza . and notably on israel and gaza. and that's obviously frustrating . that's obviously frustrating. some elements of the party's base now he's there because he's moved the party on from jeremy corbyn. but what we're seeing in rochdale with these two suspensions is it shows

lord barwell, former chief of staff to theresa may when she was prime minister, called the remarks despicableuncing what lee anderson was saying. he was deputy chairman of the conservative party, a prominent spokesperson for the party until quite recently. the chief whip try to get him to apologise. he refused to do so, so for that he is suspended. we don't know how long that suspension will last. if he does not apologise it could last until the next election and he would not be eligible to stand as a conservative candidate so this is potentially very serious for him. israeli media says an israeli delegation has returned from talks in paris with the "outline of an agreement" on a ceasefire with hamas and the release of the remaining hostages in gaza. an official says "significant progress" has been made in talks with negotiators from the us, egypt and qatar. a senior palestinian official told the bbc that no real progress had been made. let's go live to correspondent jenny hill injerusalem. what more could you tell us about the framework? do you have any details about this deal? hat the frame

the government is still bound by a law passed in parliament some years ago when theresa may was primey 2050 and there are of course all the carbon budget agreements signed annually at cop summits that the uk government is committed to by force of law but i think what you probably are seeing with both parties, more emphasis on this in the conservative party than the labour party, is attempts to ensure that the transition to net zero does not hit the poorest households in britain hard. that there are ways to mitigate the financial impact on hassles that there are ways to mitigate the financial impact on households of making that transition. and of course plenty of green campaigners will argue the biggest cost to households would be if climate change runs amok and therefore affects the climate, the environment, the economy profound ways. i don't think that's principally what labour have made this u—turn, it's more about heading into a general election which we know it will take place this year, they want to emphasise their fiscal prudence at a national level and this move is designed to

lord barwell, former chief of staff to theresa may when she was prime minister, called the remarks despicablecly denouncing what lee anderson was saying. he was deputy chair of the conservative party, a prominent spokesperson for the party until quite recently. the chief whip try to get him to withdraw the remarks and apologise. he refused to do so. so for that he is suspended. we don't know how long that suspension will last. if he does not apologise it could last until the next election and he would not be eligible to stand as a conservative candidate so this is potentially very serious for him. for more on this we can speak to baroness warsi, the former conservative chair. first of all, your reaction to this controversy and the reaction from the conservative party to suspend lee anderson. it the conservative party to suspend lee anderson-— the conservative party to suspend lee anderson. it may surprise you that i was not _ lee anderson. it may surprise you that i was not surprised _ lee anderson. it may surprise you that i was not surprised when - lee anderson. it may surprise you that i w

we had the former chief of staff theresa may suggesting what had been said by lee anderson was despicablee were growing numbers of voices and pressure on the government to act during the course of the day from within their own ranks, not simply from the labour opposition or city can't himself, who has said these comments were islamophobia, racist and inflammatory —— or sadiq khan himself stopped they tried to get lianas into apologise, enough to keep inside the conservative party at westminster. he has refused to do so, so he's been suspended, no longer an mp, so, so he's been suspended, no longeran mp, he so, so he's been suspended, no longer an mp, he will sit as an independent unless he chooses to join any other group. he will be sitting as an independent. we don't know how long the suspension will last, but if he doesn't apologise for these comments, it could last until the next election. he would therefore not be allowed to stand as a candidate, and this was someone he was a definite chairman of the party until recently and was a prominent spokesperson for the party.- spokesperson fo

lord barwell, former chief of staff to theresa may when she was prime minister, called the remarks despicablelicly denouncing what lee anderson was saying. he was deputy chairman of the conservative party, a prominent spokesperson for the party, until quite recently. the chief whip tried to get him to withdraw the remarks and apologise and he refused to do so. so for that he is suspended. we don't know how long that suspension will last. if he does not apologise it could last until the next election and he would not be eligible to stand as a conservative candidate so this is potentially very serious for him. earlier, i spoke to former conservative chairwoman baroness sayeeda warsi — the first muslim to serve as a cabinet minister. it may surprise you for me to say that i wasn't surprised when i saw these comments from lee anderson. he has a long and chequered history of making racist comments, indeed from even before he became a conservative member of parliament and consistently since then, there has been controversy around comments that he has made, and the party have been aware of that. lee

also, lord barwell, the conservative peer who used to be the chief of staff to theresa may when she was so there's a growing number of people willing to go out publicly and denounce what lee anderson was saying. and don't forget, he was deputy chairman of the conservative party, a prominent spokesman for that party, until really quite recently. the chief whip obviously tried to get him to apologise, to withdraw those remarks, and he's refused to do so. and for that reason, he is suspended. we don't know how long that suspension is going to last, but if he doesn't apologise, the suspension could last until the next election and he would not be eligible to stand as a conservative candidate, so this is potentially very serious for him. earlier, i spoke to former conservative chairwoman baroness sayeeda warsi — the first muslim to serve as a cabinet minister. it may surprise you for it mean to say that i wasn't surprised when i saw these comments from lee anderson. he has a long and chequered history of making racist comments, indeed from even before he became a conservative memberfrom parl

takes me back as a journalist — that phrase is the burr coat era which got him into hot water which theresa mayot out of the chopping waters if he calls a meaningful vote or if he doesn't. this week looked dreadful, and we know from my inbox is that people were sort of appalled by a lot of what they saw. but the reason newscast is talking about all of this what sounds like very arcane detail is that what happened in parliament this week and how it descended into an ugly, ugly pantomime is extremely important. it talks to the independence of the referee, the speaker of the house of commons. it talks to what politicians were willing to do on a debate of that nature, which is about life and limb and horror in the middle east. and it is, of course, ifeel very uncomfortable sort of mixed match between our politicians' behaviour this week and the sort of reality what is happening on the ground in gaza. —— uncomfortable sort of mismatch. but you newscasters, please forgive us, because it is extremely important because the independence of the house of commons chair who really matters, and our political

you know, i mean, tifan of theresa may. she tried a fan of theresa may.ou like to come along and you know, he what what he did actually say what what nigel's been saying for years, do you think cut to the chase. >> think, david, if boris >> do you think, david, if boris johnson the leader the johnson was the leader of the conservative party at the next general you more general election, you get more votes boris prime votes with boris as the prime minister than with rishi sunak as minister. or as the prime minister. yes or no? >> it's not that simple. i mean, bofisisnt >> it's not that simple. i mean, boris isn't in parliament. um, you know, i'm a friend of boris's. i'm not going to say anything wrong about him. i like the man. but rishi sunak is a prime minister and we're going to be going to the next election with i think with rishi sunak. and i think that a budget coming that we've got a budget coming up. what in up. let's see what goes on in the budget when the the budget and when the elections start to come around , elections start to come around, the

was it theresa may? used to was it theresa may?those vans that used to drive around saying go home or whatever was. what about whatever it was. what about aaron's think they aaron's idea? do you think they should vans kind of should have those vans kind of driving exes driving around with your exes mug on the amount of mug on it? and the amount of cash that he owes? yeah. is that the way? where are you, peter? >> it's totalitarian nonsense. >> you you can't. you have remedies things which remedies in law for things which people do or they do. the people do or they don't do. the civil go after people civil law can go after people and require money in and require money from them. in the it can result in prison the end, it can result in prison if you don't do what you're told. but that's that's very if you don't do what you're told. to |t that's that's very if you don't do what you're told. to do 1at's that's very if you don't do what you're told. to do in. s that's very if you don't do what you're told. to do in. butat's very if you

well, the thing is, under theresa may, sets under theresa may, when she sets up the independent collegeg that has is the sort of thing that has injected a lot of the strangeness we see in the way the respond to protests. the police respond to protests. >> kind of >> now, a lot of the kind of woke ideologues that do come down, i think a lot of police officers, trying get officers, they're trying to get on with their job. the vast majority them very good majority of them do a very good job but there is some job of that. but there is some confusion. maybe think confusion. maybe they think that, after that, okay, if i'm going after these lockdown protesters, well, i they're not on the i know that they're not on the side government. they're i know that they're not on the sideon government. they're i know that they're not on the side on gove of ment. they're i know that they're not on the sideon goveof society. 1ey're i know that they're not on the sideon goveof society. thee not on the side of society. the media me. but with media are backing me. but with these protests, i think these massiv

we are not in a good place at the moment and theresa may did have an industrial tragedy which was notw, and go to the portal for industrial tragedy, you will see the words archived, thatis you will see the words archived, that is it. there isn't one. it has gone off to the library forever. so we have got to build industrial tragedy. we can't have a partnership without it. it needs to be given an infrastructure, we need a counsel for the strategy and it needs to be something that does not come and go as we have seen in the last four years and we also need a version thatis years and we also need a version that is capable of doing the granular work sector by sector because there will be different demands depending on the different sectors in which you are working and operating. so that is the framework. that is vital, it is much needed. the framework on itself does not get you home on the strategy because it is about a mindset and about how do you actually work as partners, so the industrial strategy, to take any sector would be working with business to say, what is the journey, the path

working with theresa may and obviously a prime minister, working with theresa may and obvihas.ynd obvihas her security personnel. she has her security personnel. there that there are some ministers that obviously have police protection. to plan protection. you have to plan everything in terms of the arrival, the departure, the entrances, the exits, the timing of going to of which you're going to be there. to obviously there. you have to obviously turn recce turn up in advance to do a recce just that the area just to make sure that the area that you know is going to be okay. you obviously don't tell that sometimes about okay. you obviously don't tell thatvisit. sometimes about okay. you obviously don't tell thatvisit. that's sometimes about okay. you obviously don't tell thatvisit. that's just metimes about okay. you obviously don't tell thatvisit. that's just aetimes about okay. you obviously don't tell thatvisit. that's just a normalabout the visit. that's just a normal day planned but day of a planned visit. but dunng day of a planned visit. but during campaign day of a planne

. >> theresa may. >> theresa may. >> yeah.l those experienced police officers as although now they have restored those numbers, you are not you've lost all that capability, all that knowledge, all that experience. and i think that's been a really big problem for the i think the police. i think neighbourhood policing has gone in of fashion throughout in and out of fashion throughout my entire journalistic career . my entire journalistic career. it's all the rage. one minute it's the next. and think it's not the next. and i think consistency a part of consistency is a big part of this. you know, if you decide neighbourhood do neighbourhood police to do neighbourhood police to do neighbourhcwith it. and got to stick with it. and actually lot intelligence actually a lot of intelligence comes having those people comes from having those people based the community. um, but based in the community. um, but i think one of the biggest problems police have is problems the police have got is that actually most problems the police have got

um, theresa may had a plan. she said. borisjohnson theresa may had a plan. she said.n. so said, does rishi sunak so he said, does rishi sunak have a plan? well, we didn't hear night, but hear anything last night, but that's what people want addressed . addressed. >> yeah. fascinating. that was one overlooked area. had one overlooked area. but he had no answer all. did he. no real answer at all. did he. did sunak nhs came up and did he mr sunak nhs came up and of course he repeat how of course he did repeat how his his a pharmacist, dad his mother was a pharmacist, dad was a gp. that'll become a bit of a joke , as in often repeated of a joke, as in often repeated line from the pm this year. got personal didn't it? he had personal too. didn't it? he had said that keir starmer was going after sending said that keir starmer was going afte|to sending said that keir starmer was going afte|to private sending said that keir starmer was going afte|to private school.3nding him to private school. >> do you think that works? i'm not audience like not sure. in an audience like tha

theresa may abolished them. we then had who home secretaries like priti patel, suella bravo .dn't take any of this seriously, didn't put the investment in to ship these people home quickly. you're immigration ministers like robin jenrick, all of them playing tory internal party politics and ignonng tory internal party politics and ignoring the needs of the nation who want to know who's in the country and if they've committed these sex crimes . they should, these sex crimes. they should, can and should be sent home. why not? it's the politicians . to not? it's the politicians. to blame in the sense that you can pass a little tweak called a statutory instrument . that's statutory instrument. that's a mini law in the house of commons. on saying that you had to show five years of being a devout methodist or catholic or whatever, christianity he claimed to have converted to before it would be valid . covid before it would be valid. covid but obviously somebody told him , but obviously somebody told him, this little stunt, get on your knees, don't bang your forehead on the floor lik

. >> yes, theresa may would have been happy with that. >> well that's right, yes. >> well that's rightand that's a good point, isn't it? you know, this idea that they're already in power, i mean, needs to be avoided. let's just as avoided. let's just move on as well. to what the by elections seem suggesting in terms seem to be suggesting in terms of the timing the next of the timing of the next election. can't really believe of the timing of the next electbut can't really believe of the timing of the next electbut the|n't really believe of the timing of the next electbut the mirrorlly believe of the timing of the next electbut the mirror sayszlieve of the timing of the next electbut the mirror says the 'e this, but the mirror says the tories are eyeing a may vote. are they kamikaze? and dan hodges the mail is hodges in the mail on sunday is also unpalatable also saying that the unpalatable truth rishi waits truth is the longer rishi waits to an election the worst it to call an election the worst it will be for the tories may election. have gone election. and have they gone mad? night.

because i actually think it's impressive that both liz truss and theresa may have remained in the frontitics, are arguing for the things that they believe in. when other former leaders and one in particular, went off to advise dictators and get a lot of money for it. actually, isn't it a good thing? which one was that? people who remain in politics when they've served because they bring some experience acas and the opportunity people opportunity to bring people together, was liz together, that it was liz truss's name that meant the popular conservative conference could place. popular conservative conference couwould place. popular conservative conference couwould it lace. popular conservative conference couwould it be e. popular conservative conference couwould it be very careful not >> would it be very careful not to intrude? aggressive onto to intrude? too aggressive onto the grief of your your the private grief of your your party? i know that your former leader, hague, leader, william hague, has written a piece in today's times explaining the importance of party unity. i mean, coming

um, theresa may, you know, there's a big there's a big lot to choose from. out, go out with you know, guns blazing. with a, you know, guns blazing. so maybe all in like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. all in like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. al all like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. al all kind the apprentice. you've all kind of, to, you know, of, like, got to, you know, try and game , as it were. and win the game, as it were. >> okay. brilliant stuff. jerry. we're tight on time. your thoughts on boris back in the cabinet? perhaps his defence secretary. >> oh, for god's sake , who will >> oh, for god's sake, who will we declare war on? he's a hero. he is an unexploded bomb. >> um, neil. and christine got it absolutely right. he'd be a campaigner, but a campaign for boris, the only good thing about putting him in the house of lords. he can't be prime minister. no, disaster. minister. no, a total disaster. leave him well alone, neil. and i would do much better . i would do much better. >> uh. brilliant stuff

. >> oh , how about this at number >> oh, how about this at number nine, theresa may reduced to tearssigning. >> we think that's his anyway, but couldn't hear her over all the champagne corks popping . the champagne corks popping. mean someone tied . bring it mean someone tied. bring it back. all is forgiven . how about back. all is forgiven. how about number eight? sam smith crying dunng number eight? sam smith crying during lockdown? who could blame him? a couple of months in a large mansion would destroy anyone. large mansion would destroy anyone . by the way, did i hope anyone. by the way, did i hope it didn't say he. i'll be cancelled for that. they then a definite is paul gascoigne definite man is paul gascoigne at number seven, reduced to tears as he picked up a booking which would have ruled him out of the world cup final. not unusual to see a footballer dribbling. number six kim kardashian crying over a lost diamond in the sea. we've all been there . number five margaret been there. number five margaret thatcher, the iron lady on her last day in office, showing her softer sid

um, theresa may, you know, there's a big there's a big lot to choose from.ing to go out, go out with you know, guns blazing. with a, you know, guns blazing. so maybe all in like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. all in like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. al all like with a, you know, guns blazing. so |apprentice. al all kind the apprentice. you've all kind of, to, you know, of, like, got to, you know, try and game , as it were. and win the game, as it were. >> okay. brilliant stuff. jerry. we're tight on time. your thoughts on boris back in the cabinet? perhaps his defence secretary. >> oh, for god's sake , who will >> oh, for god's sake, who will we declare war on? he's a hero. he is an unexploded bomb. >> um, neil. and christine got it absolutely right. he'd be a campaigner, but a campaign for boris, the only good thing about putting him in the house of lords. he can't be prime minister. no, disaster. minister. no, a total disaster. leave him well alone, neil. and i would do much better . i would do much better. >> uh. brilli

remember, i resigned as brexit secretary because because i thought theresa may was not doing it properlyed, today's stuff properly. indeed, today's stuff on northern ireland is sort of the rescue of what she got wrong . so even though we didn't do it brilliantly , we which i is my brilliantly, we which i is my view actually is turned out not bad at all. >> i agree with you david. you look at the gdp figures, etc. it's not been a disaster. however you know there are 5.5 million men and women out there running small businesses. they million men and women out there runninexpected)usinesses. they million men and women out there runninexpected regulationsthey really expected regulations would ease. they'd be freer to run their lives . they haven't been. >> if they are, that's going to take time, to be frank. i mean, hang on, nearly, you know, how long did vote to leave? long ago did we vote to leave? never mind. mean, you know. never mind. i mean, you know. yeah, but the but the regulations take take time to move. i mean, they're not going to change dramatically overnight, but we've got the r

. >> oh , how about this at number >> oh, how about this at number nine, theresa may reduced to tearssigning. >> we think that's his anyway, but couldn't hear her over all the champagne corks popping . the champagne corks popping. mean someone tied . bring it mean someone tied. bring it back. all is forgiven . how about back. all is forgiven. how about number eight? sam smith crying dunng number eight? sam smith crying during lockdown? who could blame him? a couple of months in a large mansion would destroy anyone. large mansion would destroy anyone . by the way, did i hope anyone. by the way, did i hope it didn't say he. i'll be cancelled for that. they then a definite is paul gascoigne definite man is paul gascoigne at number seven, reduced to tears as he picked up a booking which would have ruled him out of the world cup final. not unusual to see a footballer dribbling. number six kim kardashian crying over a lost diamond in the sea. we've all been there . number five margaret been there. number five margaret thatcher, the iron lady on her last day in office, showing her softer sid

there was a very good punchline, but theresa may the story with may told the story with absolutely comicks inside? >> oh, pineapple . pineapple >> oh, pineapple. pineapple hedgehog. um hedgehog. oh, yeah. um stephanie, what is the price of love >> £3,500, even though they only it was that cheap. >> so even though they say money can't buy you love apparently a lot of couples in the uk are in investing on weekends away with their partners. >> they're really trying to keep the spark alive. a study has the spark alive. so a study has shown that people spend up to 3500 a year to make sure their relationship's kept intact, whether it's a weekend away, you might fork out about over £1,000 on a romantic holiday. >> well, valentine's day isn't far away, is it? >> five meals out cost about £500. oh, this candlelit dinner. yeah, i think it's good that people are trying to make an effort. it's an investment. their relationships . yeah. their relationships. yeah. >> have you date nights? yeah i think it would be more than that. >> the star. i've got this story as well. and they're front pages , a day

. >> theresa deal >> the old theresa may deal is he?just >> well, i just think i just think know, stuff think the, you know, the stuff we promised under brexit, we were promised under brexit, we were promised under brexit, we got the opposite. we were promised control over our borders. that? borders. can you imagine that? >> our borders. borders. can you imagine that? >> that's our borders. borders. can you imagine that? >> that's not our borders. borders. can you imagine that? >> that's not their borders. borders. can you imagine that? >> that's not the fault ders. borders. can you imagine that? >> that's not the fault of 's. >> that's not the fault of brexit or people who voted brexit or the people who voted for that for brexit. that's the fact that the politicians in charge didn't treat it as an opportunity. they treated it as damage limitation. >> that have >> but we knew that we'd have politicians running things after brexit. that brexit. and we knew that politicians are historically useless. >> so i trusted them. leo, why would we

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did president theresa may say that? did president macron? who said that? i mean, john heilemann, i'm serious. it's so stupid. the level of stupidity, like, to actually believe that story and cheer for it, really, it makes my teeth hurt. so mind-bogglingly bad. >> to say it out loud, heads of state, even of some big countries, small countries, they don't refer to each other as sir, as if he's, like, the white house usher. not the way they talk to each other. i think, joe, it is an interesting metric you'vevocabu. as we chart trump's decline, we should monitor the quality of the lies. they become more transparent and dumber, that's one sign of terminal decline. another is going to be when the nicknames start to go. when he starts, like, coming up with -- when he refers to joe biden as cheery joe or, you know, he'll have bad nicknames. they'll decline, and that's another sign trump is reaching ineptitude. >> this is fat elvis at the piano. that's where we are. >> next stop, in front of the televisions in graceland. >> it'll happen. that's coming. >> let's bri

uh, theresa may made some, uh, accidentally, perhaps , some, uh, accidentally, perhaps, uh, insensitive but it feels now a little bit as though the wind has gone out of the sails and probably i might be about this, by be wrong about this, but by tomorrow blown tomorrow it will have blown oven tomorrow it will have blown over. okay, olivia , thank you over. okay, olivia, thank you for us. for joining us. >> joined by the forjoining us. >> joined by the former >> i'm joined now by the former labour mp bill rammell, returning to our top story of the day. hello, bill, are you there? thanks for joining us on there? thanks for joining us on the is the story. of the show. this is the story. of course, bill, welcome . we're course, bill, welcome. we're talking today about the £28 billion net zero u—turn. there's a briefing going on right now, in fact, about what's due in the next labour manifesto ahead of the general election. a key flagship policy dropped at the 11th hour. the his opponents call him sir flip flop. this is the biggest u—turn of sir keir starmer's career . starmer's career. >> w

theresa may. there we go. theresa may was the prime minister.r . that prepare. there are some harsh cuts of farmer. that was earning, uh, £40,000 in, um, area payments three years ago. will have got £25,000 in last december in their annual payment by 2028, those area payments will have completely gone . but will have completely gone. but what is mollifying? arable farmers in particular, is the fact that they can see this suite of options, whether it's planting wild bird food, whether it's, um, farming in an environmental kind of way by doing ploughing, for doing less ploughing, for example, reducing emissions example, reducing fuel emissions . they know the payments. they're going to get for that. and they have access to that detail, as i say. but the upland farmers in england, they are so concerned , there is much less on concerned, there is much less on offer for them. and so there is still a few hurdles for the government to clear here, i think, before they can conclude that farmers are really are happy with how things are going. >> meredith,

yeah theresa may would have been happy with that. well that's right. yes.m, and that's a good point, isn't it? >> you know, idea that >> you know, this idea that they're already in power and he needs avoided. let's just needs to be avoided. let's just move as well what the by move on as well to what the by elections seem to suggesting elections seem to be suggesting in terms of the timing of the next election. i really next election. i can't really believe mirror believe this, but the mirror says the tories are eyeing may says the tories are eyeing a may vote. they and dan vote. are they kamikaze? and dan hodgesin vote. are they kamikaze? and dan hodges in the mail on sunday is also saying that the unpalatable truth longer rishi waits truth is the longer rishi waits to an election the worst to call an election the worst it will for tories may will be for the tories may election. have gone mad? night. >> well, i think that they've been groundwork for been laying the groundwork for a may year. may election since last year. um, now what? mikey? mikey smith is

don't forget he opened the way for boris, you know, rid theresa may know, got rid of theresa may brexitntry needs you, nigel. we need nigel farage back in frontline politics. >> so what did he say? >> so what did he say? >> but what about. yeah. so go on and say what he said. no. and he and he he considering it. he and he he is considering it. >> have to realise being >> but you have to realise being in frontline politics, it takes your whole life . he does. your whole life. he does. >> and but he was at the pop con, uh, conference. so if he thought that much, you know about conservativism and everything else, why was he there? >> well, because he has to be there. nana he has one of the best shows on jubilee news, and he should be there , but he is he should be there, but he is totally disillusioned , as am i totally disillusioned, as am i and many others with the conservative party. the conservative party. the conservative party. the conservative party are no longer conservative. are they? are the liberal democrats. they're this woke, nonsensical, uh, party that, you know, i don't reco