commissioner fung: the two separate entrances, when i look at the plants, thereu entrance of the stair there is one entrance that goes into the garage. the planning department does not normally look at the as an independent -- >> that is correct. so when i was speaking about rooms down, that is absolutely the worst case scenario. if you are determining that access through the garage. however, if allowed access to the unit, that would be the worst-case scenario. in direct access to the street. street. actually, i correct myself. you would have the same. commissioner garcia: on the variance itself, at some point,i it needs to be addressed, and i guess now is as good as any time. the issue was raised about being an exceptional, extraordinary, and the hardship issue. the point was raised by counsel that any hardship that exists by the project >> that is . i do not know that we would dispute that. the hardship was created because of not having a permit, but as i said before, without having the knowledge to go through the process, or doing it on purpose, we do see people doing alterations wi