let's look with marc casper, bank chairman and ceo of thermo fisher scientific. mr.money." >> hi, jim, it's nice to be with you. >> i like to say a lot of people were afraid of the water in this pandemic and when things calmed down, we wouldn't need these pcr machines and thermo fisher would go back to just being okay it looks like the opposite you're accelerating your organic growth when a lot of people felt it had to decline. what is driving things here? >> so, jim, the team is doing a great job of executing for our customers. if you think about we played a very large rolein the pandemic and because of the strong growth we had, we had been able to invest very substantially in products, new factories and capabilities and that's already paying off with another quarter of very strong revenue growth and a very, very bullish outlook. >> and you bought one of my absolute favorite companies, one i recommended, ppd acquisition this will be another leg for your great company this $20 billion acquisition, what thermo will look like after you guys all get together and start d

the company, thermo fisher, why just one company? ben: we believe there will be others.rporate nations in the aftermath of jordan floored -- corporations in the aftermath of george floyd vowed for social justice because they watched him suffer for nine minutes and 23 seconds. i would suggest that henrietta lacks was equal or far worse than what george floyd suffered. for the pharmaceutical companies who made the commitment to social justice in the aftermath of george floyd, you can prove that commitment by doing it right by henrietta lacks finally, do right by her. say her name, because her life mattered and black lives matter -- matter. her cells are the cornerstone of modern medicine. having medical vaccines created from her cells, are developed with polio, with cancer research. they did in vitro advancement, covid-19 vaccination. amy: what was so special about henrietta lacks' cells? ben: that's a great question. everybody should know the name of henrietta lacks, not just in america but all over the globe, because her cls for the first time in the history of the world

now, i know what you're thinking, but how's thermo fisher doing? well, they've earned a billions of dollars in revenue, and they're giving back to the community by creating the just project. partnering with historically black colleges and universities to provide free cove at $900.00 testing and diversifying the thermo fisher work environment. how about you give back the billions of dollars you made from exploiting black bodies. also, johns hopkins school of medicine, named after the famous abolitionists may be, you could provide reparations for the cells you stole, or at least reparations for the slaves. your abolitionist founder owned. now, let's get into that rich history of medical racism i was talking about earlier. just last spring. it was revealed that the university of pennsylvania and princeton university have been in possession of remains thought to belong to 2 children who were among the 11 people killed in the 985 police bombing of the philadelphia home of the radical black liberation and anti police brutality group move most of us to kn

yesterday her estate filed a lawsuit against thermo fisher. the company has not publicly responded.randson. i want to put up for the audience some of the things your grandmother's cells have helped to advance, everything from the polio vaccines as i mentioned, understanding x-rays in the human cells, the ebola and hiv vaccines. trying to understand, sorry, the ineffectivity of ebola and hiv, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. when did your family find out that your grandmother was the source of the scientific miracles? >> thank you, joy, for having me. it's a pleasure. decades. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> my mother was the one that by accident she was having it down the street and the presser coming to lunch, her neighbor introduced her as barbette lax and said we're working with henrietta lax and my mother and law and that's how we found out. >> ben, there is a sense of dehumanization of black bodies and black life here where she, while a human being with a life, that's how we try to describe some of her life was just treated as a product that could be bought and sold and disposed of at

thermo-fisher hasn't responded to requests for comment. >>> do you have a lot of student debt for thousandsuncing today a major overhaul in the public service loan forgiveness program it's said to make it easier for service members and teachers, nurses, and other public workers to qualify for debt relief the government estimates this will bring more than 500,000 borrowers closer to loan forgiveness and eliminate about $4 billion in student debt in america. cnbc's personal finance correspondent, sharon epperson, is with us how is this going to work? >> in this program, shep, about one-quarter of american workers are already employed in public service, and many of them could be eligible for student loan forgiveness. the public service loan forgiveness program began and became law in 2007 it was designed to allow nonprofit and government employees to have their federal student loans canceled after ten years of public service and after making 120 monthly payments to a qualifying repayment plan the problem is, many people who thought they qualified and had been paying back their loans for years

it is time for the auction block, with thermo fisher leading the way.ales of u.s. investment rates topping forecast this week. and junk-bond sales getting a big boost from energy companies this week, rushing to market, capitalizing on surging crude prices and robust demands. back with us, bob michele, bob miller, and winnie, straight to you. walk me through when you think the story hits the market. bob miller saying maybe we neutralized the impact of the treasury market. what is your thought on that? >> i think it is important, but you have to take a step back and think, what else is available in the broader universe of fixed income? because despite the fact that there might be a little give and take of neutralization in the treasury market, i do think we will continue to see robust corporate credit issuance and issuance across the board of fixed income, so it can still go up a bit and be a compelling place for issuers to be borrowing capital. as we start to see more of these moving pieces where perhaps we have a fed taper and an accelerating or steady

lacks' cells on thermo fisher's website for $2,000. the family is not getting any of that money.ny response from them at all? >> they have fought responded as of yet. but i know some pharmaceutical companies have tried to step up to do the right thing. as you well know, tiffany cross, in the aftermath of george floyd being tortured to death, mr. corporations made a pledge, a commitment to social justice. >> right. >> many of those were pharmaceutical companies, well, i will submit henrietta lacks self equally but not greater than george floyd. so if you want to honor your commitment to social justice, then do right by henrietta lacks finally and henrietta. she has given so much to the world. how about the world try to give something to her and her family as she looks down from heaven saying, what about my family? >> so, the thermo scientific isn't the only company that benefitted from her cells. so many others did, including john hopkins', why did you choose to name them in the lawsuit and are more lawsuits coming? >> well, it was strategic with thermo fish erskinetistic initiall

i am going to say this is a company that puts out a five-year projection and thermo fisher did it, andgrant you, if they have missteps along the way, that will hurt them and right now there's no indication for that, and they have the cruise robo taxis and i'll grant there is a reward with the bolt recall it looks pretty darn good for general motors and sometimes investing is simple and stay out of the way jen motors has a really wild bid to it right now, don't try to na say it just ride it calls of the day, i want to lead off with home depot and lowe's because both were downgraded today. pete, you own home depot do you think these shares will stall out? >> you know, i think they could, scott. let's be honest. take a look at that stock and see what the 52-week high all-time high is and it was 345 and it's not that far away from there. could it stall and could it pause for a little while and when i look at the valuation it's very fair and trading at a 22 p-e and they have the digital side of sales as well and supply chain can be an issue and we all know that and that could be a factor th

. >> go on to ulta ulta was not bat david, here, thermo fisher undervalued. abbott a huge blowout. i'm almost done. severe weather air, vaccine no-go, paypal coming back, hall burter bon -- better than expected, and boot barn. 97 to 110 for the boot barn. that made your list of things you wanted to talk about by the way, do we have a -- do we have any time for that? >> our viewers are not billions nair our viewers are trying to make some money. >> boot barn going to a whatever wherever is not -- to cowan. all right. we love cowen. >> let's talk about tudor jones. that was a great interview you can listen to him for quite some time. he's always interesting. he has serious reservations about fed policy, saying, simply, this is not 2013 take a listen. >> if they try to fight the last war and do the taper they did in 2013, well, we're going to go ahead and ease off the pedal for the next six or eight months, well, that's just the wrong policy prescription. we're so different than 2013 2013 commodity prices were down. so to answer your question, we have to watch what this fed does. >> w