caller: i want to ask the gentleman how much power the dnc .as besides bernie's shabby thetment, he had all of delegates racked up before he even announced he was running. can they change that? guest: i hope so. superdelegates are disaster for our party. there should never be a circumstance where elites, big funders, lawyers, can make that backroomisions -- decisions that overrun the party. run sosanders decided to we could have a competitive primary and actually have the fight for ideas. we are best when we are competitive on the ideas. when we have a real discussion about what our policy should be. if you think back to 2008, your member the fact that we had 10 can at its for the democratic party running for president. we had real debates. and when it got down to clinton and obama, that was a fantastic fight for ideas. it made it so democrats were able to dominate the civ -- the sea of ideals. we almost did not get that this cycle at all because of superdelegates putting the thumb on the scale for one candidate. we ended up getting some of that during the clinton-sanders often, we hado