the ratio of 2-1, small businesses when theyg in the re tens of millions, several million people certainly are going it lose it there. this thing is just beginning. my dghter, for example, got her policy cacelled. the president said you could have it back but the state of new jers got word from the health and human services department, regardless what the president says, your policy doesn't qualify. overbloated policies. people who like their policies are losing them and it's a burden on the economy. >> rick, numbers show it. a net loss for people getting private insurance? >> ion't think so. as a matter of fact, there's a gallup pl showing a significant drop inuninsure in january last year to january of this year. that wouldn't be mathematically possible if, in fact, we have more people losing insurance than gaining it. >> hold on a second. let me be a little more specific. we're talking about priva insurance now. half of that number, half of those people, shown on the unsured number, are getting medicaid. that is not private insurance. that is -- that is insurance that taxpayers have to